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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Yeah rock and metal tend to have a ton of information in the upper midrange, which HE400's de-emphasize by their intrinsic tonal balance. Just not a great complement.

Same reason why headphones that have really aggressive prominent upper mids almost always sound great with rock (and to a lesser extent metal), even if they are not that special in a technical sense.
Except the HD598s, but that's because they lack speed as well.

It's not that they sound bad with rock and metal, just a bit too smooth and polite.
post #13952 of 17054
The thing is, because of the speed they don't sound terrible with metal, and I also listen to a lot of NIN and slower acoustic rock. These were kind of a foot in the water to planars for me. As at the time of purchase I coukdnt afford more. So, now, I'm saving for a 500. May even get a mini x I'd my sx 727 doesn't sound right. But for now, I still enjoy them, with games as well. O knew when I bought them they weren't an all arounder, now if I would have known more about the he 4 I would have bought them instead. But at the time all my readings seem to say the he400 was the better of the two. I guess in my case especially, that was entirely incorrect
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Sorry for typos my phone is acting up
post #13954 of 17054
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post

The thing is, because of the speed they don't sound terrible with metal, and I also listen to a lot of NIN and slower acoustic rock. These were kind of a foot in the water to planars for me. As at the time of purchase I coukdnt afford more. So, now, I'm saving for a 500. May even get a mini x I'd my sx 727 doesn't sound right. But for now, I still enjoy them, with games as well. O knew when I bought them they weren't an all arounder, now if I would have known more about the he 4 I would have bought them instead. But at the time all my readings seem to say the he400 was the better of the two. I guess in my case especially, that was entirely incorrect

Hmm, could be due to the capacitors and/or resistors as they will go over time (common with older amps).  It is possible to replace them but it's a bit of work and expense.  If you have an audio repair shop in your area, they may do it for a reasonable price though.

post #13955 of 17054

For some reason I find that metal and rock just sound better on IEM's.... Some over ears are good as well....

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Originally Posted by modulor View Post
 

Hmm, could be due to the capacitors and/or resistors as they will go over time (common with older amps).  It is possible to replace them but it's a bit of work and expense.  If you have an audio repair shop in your area, they may do it for a reasonable price though.

 

This. A restored vintage receiver/amp will sound very different from one that is 30-40 years old with no restoration. The difference in sound can be amazing. 

post #13957 of 17054

I think he meant to say that he'll get the Emotiva IF his SX 727 doesn't sound right. I don't think he meant to say there was anything wrong with it.

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I don't know if it's my brain adjusting to the headphones as Thujone pointed out, but they seem to sound significantly better than when I first put them on. I can firmly say that at this moment in time I am totally in love! There seems to be something special about the planar technology. So much detail and everything just sounds so much more natural than what I'm used to with the dynamics I've tried. They also have this effortless quality with the music that feels so reassuring.

 

It looks like my wallet it's headed for a battering I'm afraid. Though I'm enjoying these so much that I'm thinking how much better can it get?

 

I've got to add that I actually like the aesthetics of the 'phone and after initial slight discomfort, these seem to somehow disappear after a while so long as you keep your head still. Tilt your head though and their weight remind you that you have half a kilo attached to you head. :tongue: 

post #13959 of 17054
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post

I think he meant to say that he'll get the Emotiva IF his SX 727 doesn't sound right. I don't think he meant to say there was anything wrong with it.
That's correct sir, my 727 is re capped
post #13960 of 17054
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Originally Posted by GWagon View Post
 

I don't know if it's my brain adjusting to the headphones as Thujone pointed out, but they seem to sound significantly better than when I first put them on. I can firmly say that at this moment in time I am totally in love! There seems to be something special about the planar technology. So much detail and everything just sounds so much more natural than what I'm used to with the dynamics I've tried. They also have this effortless quality with the music that feels so reassuring.

 

It looks like my wallet it's headed for a battering I'm afraid. Though I'm enjoying these so much that I'm thinking how much better can it get?

 

I've got to add that I actually like the aesthetics of the 'phone and after initial slight discomfort, these seem to somehow disappear after a while so long as you keep your head still. Tilt your head though and their weight remind you that you have half a kilo attached to you head. :tongue: 

 

Now you need to mod the pads and EQ them

post #13961 of 17054
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

For some reason I find that metal and rock just sound better on IEM's.... Some over ears are good as well....
I do like my re400 on rock and metal
post #13962 of 17054

I have got electri ! working using the effect chainer and made an EQ.....

 

However when it is playing it seems to fluctuate the volume? For example it sounds like it is normalising it.... The song will start then when the bass starts the volume will go lower etc..... How do I disable this please?

post #13963 of 17054

Funny conversations going on.

 

I agree with the "laid back" sound - when it means that the HE-400s seem to handle anything you throw at it with ease. It is especially apparent when the bass gets deep and heavy. No sense of compression or strain like I am used to when I push smaller dynamic drivers hard.

 

As for those that think the HE's aren't that great with rock . . . whataya crazee? The speed, detail, and brightness are all PERFECT for rock if you ask me. Its a big reason the old HD-595s were cut out of my listening rotation - they really needed a stronger bass floor and a bit more treble. I also think headphones tend to benefit from a little softness in the 2-6khz range. Unless they are 'flat', those freqs seem to bother me more than others.

 

Anyway, its October, so I am listening to a lot of Type-O Negative. October Rust and Life is Killing me are Awesome. There is little bass in the tracks, so they tend to sound their best with speakers that are accurate. Unlike LOTS of my rock CDs, they are actually well produced and have lots of fun effects and ambiance at times.

 

Try the Black Crowes "croweology" and just try and tell me it wasn't awesome (though, the channel separation is sometimes too extreme for headphone guys - its cooler with a good stereo). :wink_face:

 

While I am at it, Jack White's Blunderbuss is pretty badass.

I also love Metric on the HE-400s, and Kasabian is usually pretty awesome when I am in the mood.

 

I agree that the HE-400s aren't PERFECT with rock, but I've heard much worse. I personally think that good rock phones have got to be fast, flat, and bright - with really good mid-bass.

 

What's everyone's favorite rock albums to test headphones with?

post #13964 of 17054
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Originally Posted by MrMateoHead View Post


Anyway, its October, so I am listening to a lot of Type-O Negative. October Rust and Life is Killing me are Awesome. There is little bass in the tracks, so they tend to sound their best with speakers that are accurate. Unlike LOTS of my rock CDs, they are actually well produced and have lots of fun effects and ambiance at times.

Try the Black Crowes "croweology" and just try and tell me it wasn't awesome (though, the channel separation is sometimes too extreme for headphone guys - its cooler with a good stereo). wink_face.gif

While I am at it, Jack White's Blunderbuss is pretty badass.
I also love Metric on the HE-400s, and Kasabian is usually pretty awesome when I am in the mood.

I agree that the HE-400s aren't PERFECT with rock, but I've heard much worse. I personally think that good rock phones have got to be fast, flat, and bright - with really good mid-bass.

What's everyone's favorite rock albums to test headphones with?

Awesome type o negative albums, I use Porcupine trees in absentia.. .aaaamazing band
post #13965 of 17054
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Originally Posted by MrMateoHead View Post
 

Funny conversations going on.

 

I agree with the "laid back" sound - when it means that the HE-400s seem to handle anything you throw at it with ease. It is especially apparent when the bass gets deep and heavy. No sense of compression or strain like I am used to when I push smaller dynamic drivers hard.

 

As for those that think the HE's aren't that great with rock . . . whataya crazee? The speed, detail, and brightness are all PERFECT for rock if you ask me. Its a big reason the old HD-595s were cut out of my listening rotation - they really needed a stronger bass floor and a bit more treble. I also think headphones tend to benefit from a little softness in the 2-6khz range. Unless they are 'flat', those freqs seem to bother me more than others.

 

Anyway, its October, so I am listening to a lot of Type-O Negative. October Rust and Life is Killing me are Awesome. There is little bass in the tracks, so they tend to sound their best with speakers that are accurate. Unlike LOTS of my rock CDs, they are actually well produced and have lots of fun effects and ambiance at times.

 

Try the Black Crowes "croweology" and just try and tell me it wasn't awesome (though, the channel separation is sometimes too extreme for headphone guys - its cooler with a good stereo). :wink_face:

 

While I am at it, Jack White's Blunderbuss is pretty badass.

I also love Metric on the HE-400s, and Kasabian is usually pretty awesome when I am in the mood.

 

I agree that the HE-400s aren't PERFECT with rock, but I've heard much worse. I personally think that good rock phones have got to be fast, flat, and bright - with really good mid-bass.

 

What's everyone's favorite rock albums to test headphones with?


i have several for my he500:

 

after forever

amasefer

anathema

angeldark

anna phoebe

arakain

edenbridge

evanescence

haggard

lacrimosa

magni animi viri

nightwish

rage

rammstein

rhapsody of fire

secret spere

septic flesh

tarja turunen

tvangste

two steps from hell

unheilig

within temptation

xystus

 

i dont like all of their songs..just two or more songs or just one.....and every one of the songs i chose from these groups make u shiver on the he500... lolz

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