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post #13936 of 17700
Thanks! I've been bustin my rear all day woodworking in the garage with laquer thinner fumes goin in the ol nostrils. So I'm a little off...
post #13937 of 17700

Bass test for HE400 = EQ up the bass and listen to Dark Knight Rises OST FLAC..... The bass.... :basshead:

post #13938 of 17700
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post

I guess I can't really explain what I mean by laid back in this case.

I know exactly what you mean. It's like they never seem to be breaking a sweat, no matter what volume. Because of this, it's really hard to judge how loud you're listening. That total composure and lack of strain presents itself as laid back.

The headphones are saying, "What? The thundering double bass drums on Deicide's Conviction? That organ at Notre Dame in full flight? They ain't s#&* to me. Wake me up when you've finished.."

You mean that kind of laid back?
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BTW, even if death metal is not your thing, still give that Deicide track a listen if you dare, it's the most dramatically and dynamically produced metal I've yet heard and sounds intimidatingly good out of the HE400s..
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

EQ and mods does help a lot compared to the stock setup... But yes it is impossible to get the treble / upper mids sounding perfect as well as detailed at the same time. The HE400 still sound damn nice with the right bitrate / recordings but unfortunately I have a perfectionist streak which probably in a few years I will end up with no money or food but some nice flagship headphones / amp. :D

 

 

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Originally Posted by GWagon View Post
 

Should be getting my hands on a pair of these tomorrow, finally see what all the fuss is about with these planar magnetic 'phones. If I like what I hear then I may set my sight on some of the higher end models when funds allow.

 

 

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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post


Make sure when you get them, to give them some time, the planar sound is quite different. Especially on the he400, its not a forward sounding hp. They're laid back and to me honestly changed the way I listen to music. They were a great choice for me coming from just Sr80is and shure 840s. But, like many others and more than likely yourself, I was diagnosed with the ever elusive silent killer upgraditis. Be careful, it will kill your bank account slowly but surely.

 

 

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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

Dark sound with hot trebles!

Sounds about right

 

they are a nice headphone, if you are a fan of Bright cans these should be right up your alley, they where for me. Although I don't listen to them a whole lot latly :O not really into EDM atm... and the HE 400 is my EDM headphone <.< I'm tempted to try a Balanced Mad Dog... but I doubt it would have the speed of the HE 400 in the sub 

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Still waiting for my pair to come through the post. Is there any way to find out which revision I have without taking the pads off? I've heard some horror stories of pads breaking when fitting them so I'm reluctant to take them off. :blink: 

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Originally Posted by amigomatt View Post

BTW, even if death metal is not your thing, still give that Deicide track a listen if you dare, it's the most dramatically and dynamically produced metal I've yet heard and sounds intimidatingly good out of the HE400s..

Metal is my biggest chunk of music, and I shall check that track out asap!
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post

Metal is my biggest chunk of music, and I shall check that track out asap!
Metal huh? Mmmmm may i give u a tip..if u have a chance..try to listen to the he500 on a good amp...i say this as i have lots of metallica tracks..and especially those tracks on which the leadsinger (female) has a higher (or opera style) voice and when the second voice is one of those LOOOOOWW evil devilish male screaming voices (u know the scary ones) that headphone will give u the creeps how real those voices sound.. And am not even talking about the extreme high speed guitar solos..wonderfull.. U have to hear it to believe it..for me the he500 did much better then the he400... As i said..try it one day.. At a meet or something tongue.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 10/24/13 at 6:43am
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Metal huh? Mmmmm may i give u a tip..if u have a chance..try to listen to the he500 on a good amp...i say this as i have lots of metallica tracks..and especially those tracks on which the leadsinger (female) has a higher (or opera style) voice and when the second voice is one of those LOOOOOWW evil devilish male screaming voices (u know the scary ones) that headphone will give u the creeps how real those voices sound.. And am not even talking about the extreme high speed guitar solos..wonderfull.. U have to hear it to believe it..for me the he500 did much better then the he400... As i said..try it one day.. At a meet or something tongue.gif
Oh, you're just persuading me even more to upgrade to the 500s now!
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I do not find the HE400 to be very good for metal or rock type music personally...  I even prefer my relatively cheap Shure Se215 IEM's for those genres.... For EDM or soundtracks and that sort of thing the HE400 are much better though....

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Yeah rock and metal tend to have a ton of information in the upper midrange, which HE400's de-emphasize by their intrinsic tonal balance. Just not a great complement.

 

Same reason why headphones that have really aggressive prominent upper mids almost always sound great with rock (and to a lesser extent metal), even if they are not that special in a technical sense.

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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

Yeah rock and metal tend to have a ton of information in the upper midrange, which HE400's de-emphasize by their intrinsic tonal balance. Just not a great complement.

 

Same reason why headphones that have really aggressive prominent upper mids almost always sound great with rock (and to a lesser extent metal), even if they are not that special in a technical sense.

 

A combination of this and also the fact that the HE400 emphasise any flaws in the recording, which is also often not very good with metal and rock music. You have a combination of recessed upper mids and emphasised sibilance etc. Does not sound great with those genres...

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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Yeah rock and metal tend to have a ton of information in the upper midrange, which HE400's de-emphasize by their intrinsic tonal balance. Just not a great complement.

Same reason why headphones that have really aggressive prominent upper mids almost always sound great with rock (and to a lesser extent metal), even if they are not that special in a technical sense.
And reading this..i need to say the jerg pads by modulor made a recognizable positive difference with metallica compared to when my he500 was with standard pads!

Sound got fuller..more powerfull..especially when more then one guitars start playing with force...for example when i was listening to evenacence, her leadguitarist had a very specific way to plunk on his electric guitar on certain tracks and u hear that plunk so clearly after the pad mod... So natural..and that bass hits hard and controlled...and those metal bass guitars.. The agressivity makes u smile how they smile..so low and growling almost... But i have to say..i had the amp to deliver..on others u maybe dont get that punch..
Edited by hifimanrookie - 10/24/13 at 9:04am
post #13949 of 17700

I've been using these for the last couple of hours and I'm really digging the sound. The details are astounding, with the holographic sound stage I'm able to pick out the different instruments pretty easily. I am getting the slight "Tz" sound but it seems to have died down a bit since I first put them on. It was pretty unbearable to start off with, which worried me a little but it went within the first few minutes.

 

Overall, I am really impressed with these technically and musically. I hear that the velour pads help with the recessed upper mids but also negatively effect the bass so I'm not sure if I should get a pair. Should I be expecting any significant change to the sound as I burn them in further?


Edited by GWagon - 10/24/13 at 9:19am
post #13950 of 17700

The sound shouldn't change from "burn in". Your brain may change how it feels about the sound though. The velours will make the treble a little worse but they are nicely balanced. The best route to go for pads is to make/buy jergpads. Definitely use some EQ to tame that treble though, I agree that they're unbearable without it.

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