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Originally Posted by moriez View Post

 

There's a shop not too far from where I live that sells the HE-400/500. I'll ask him for an auditioning meet before dropping coin on anything.

 

Right! That didn't happen! Just bought a pair of a Head-Fi'er :atsmile:

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Right! That didn't happen! Just bought a pair of a Head-Fi'er :atsmile:

xD nice and do enjoy 

post #13803 of 17700

Thanks fella. Looking forward to how they'll serve me.

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Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

Thanks fella. Looking forward to how they'll serve me.

you get just the stock pads, or did you opt for some after markets OR are you going to try and Mod ur Pleathers your self :3 

 

also any plans for a new cable :D 

post #13805 of 17700

It should come with stock velour and pleather. I've PM'ed modulor for the jerg's. Is re-cabling more of a common practice/sure upgrade with these headphones than it is with other headphones?

post #13806 of 17700

The cables are stiff. I would change the cable. I don't know if it makes any difference sound wise, but it would still be worth it :tongue_smile:

 

HE-400 normally ony comes with stock pleather. The velour ones are for HE-500. Most people buy velour ones though.

post #13807 of 17700

If the new research Harman response curve were to be applied to Tyll's method for measuring, ideally a headphone should measure like this (LCD2 used as reference)

 


Edited by TMRaven - 10/19/13 at 3:47pm
post #13808 of 17700

The FR of the LCD2 does look pretty perfect for me.... The HE500 looks good as well

post #13809 of 17700

Out of interest / boredom I plotted (roughly) the custom EQ that I use onto the actual HE400 frequency graph....

 

The actual frequency response that it results in is pretty neutral (although quite dark above 1.5khz similar to the Sennheiser Momentum and LCD2, Even with the amount of EQ I used on it there is still a small peak around 10khz, Obviously there is quite an increase in the bass as well because I like it for EDM. Not sure what effect the pad mods have on this because this is for the stock pads.... Proabably a bit more upper mids and less of a lump around 800-1.5khz..... Quite interesting anyway

 

 

 

The Sennheiser Momentum FR....

 


Almost the same except for the bass boost....


Edited by nicholars - 10/19/13 at 6:13pm
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Momentum does have a prominent bass boost.  It has some decently boomy bass.

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One thing I don't like about InnerFidelity FR measurements is for some reason (maybe a combination of compensation curve, axis scale, and other things) everything above 2kHz is way too "bunched up", as in they are plotted to be hard to infer from or compare/contrast with.

 

How to fix that: make vertical axis 5 dB ~ -35 dB, tweak compensation curve a bit so upper end especially upper treble isn't always rolled-off-looking (even when it is emphasized in practice), and zoom in on 10 Hz - 20kHz instead of wasting space up to 100 kHz.

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Thread Starter 

^^ Is that a good or bad thing? Which is to say do you enjoy boomy bass? 

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I didn't listen to the Momentum long enough.  I was swapping out a bunch of headphones at a store: near the whole damn Grado lineup, a T1, the HD700, and my HE-400.  The Momentum struck me as pretty boomy in comparison when I first put it on.  It wasn't an overwhelming or bad boomy I think, but something that would be rather nice and satisfying for those seeking very warm sounding headphones.

post #13814 of 17700

The bass on the Momentum was pretty good.... Not as good as the HE400 but one of the better headphones I have heard around that price... Shame they are miniscule and have almost no soundstage though...

post #13815 of 17700
I don't find the Momentum boomy at all (though next to the HE-400...bass is definitely not as good). It sounds warm, for sure, and the mids are rich and tonally accurate (IMHO), but it's a LOVELY, LOVELY headphone. If only the pads were larger to actually allow ears to fit inside. Most people won't get a good fit because the ears are resting on the pads. Probably why impressions tend to be all over the place for the Momentum. I made my ears fit inside, but it's definitely not ideal. I would've preffered they made the Momentum just purely on ear instead of passing them as over ear. I doubt many ears will fit in there as advertised.

Too bad the Momentum On ear sounds different from the standard one. I would've bought myself some by now if I could've had the same sound as the "over ear".
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 10/19/13 at 9:31pm
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