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Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

Aargh, I just really dislike having to make adjustments for a headphone to sound right. Not the practical side but the plain fact that I want all magic to be there straight out of the box. That bothers me big time about headphones at this point. Nevertheless, I am intrigued with this one and when you say "they are good with most genres but excellent for anything eletronic and bassy" I notice my head doing a slow nod of approval :o
 

 

Well if you want headphones that sound perfect out of the box then you will have to buy some high end headphones, surprisingly all headphones under about £700 still have at least one major flaw..... I would say the flaw with the HE400 is the treble but at least that can be sorted with EQ and mods..... You cannot mod something like the HD650 to have the sub bass and speed of the HE400.... If you want high end bass, mids, imaging, speed etc. whilst still having an open sounding headphone then the HE400 is pretty much the only headphone under £600 that can do that.... The treble sounds pretty good when setup right with the right music... But it is the weak part of the sound compared to the other bits....

 

Here is a pretty good review where they are compared to other high ends and get a A+ for value....

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13


Edited by nicholars - 10/17/13 at 12:14pm
post #13742 of 17711

Just FYI I never sell any modded pads, I just provide the mod technique.

post #13743 of 17711
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Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

Aargh, I just really dislike having to make adjustments for a headphone to sound right. Not the practical side but the plain fact that I want all magic to be there straight out of the box. That bothers me big time about headphones at this point. Nevertheless, I am intrigued with this one and when you say "they are good with most genres but excellent for anything eletronic and bassy" I notice my head doing a slow nod of approval :o
 

Great out of the box with no EQ, no major amping requirements and good with most genres but excellent for anything electronic and bassy = TH600

post #13744 of 17711
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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post
 

Great out of the box with no EQ, no major amping requirements and good with most genres but excellent for anything electronic and bassy = TH600

 

= £750


Edited by nicholars - 10/17/13 at 1:03pm
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= £750

Well yes, there is that :D

 

Pricejapan.com to U.S. was $809 new last I checked.

post #13746 of 17711

Thanks guys. Anyone with experience with Asgard 2 or Lyr for the HE-400 post your impressions please.

 

@ethan, your're killing me! If I could play along in that price range yes I would :biggrin: 

Edit: Price to Europe €602. That ain't horrible but still I frown upon.


Edited by moriez - 10/17/13 at 1:14pm
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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post
 

Well yes, there is that :D

 

Pricejapan.com to U.S. was $809 new last I checked.

 

Do you know how much they cost to the UK?

post #13748 of 17711
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Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

Thanks guys. Anyone with experience with Asgard 2 or Lyr for the HE-400 post your impressions please.

 

@ethan, your're killing me! If I could play along in that price range yes I would :biggrin: 

Edit: Price to Europe €602. That ain't horrible but still I frown upon.

 

Hmmmm just over £500... Not bad

post #13749 of 17711
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Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

Thanks guys. Anyone with experience with Asgard 2 or Lyr for the HE-400 post your impressions please.

 

@ethan, your're killing me! If I could play along in that price range yes I would :biggrin: 

Edit: Price to Europe €602. That ain't horrible but still I frown upon.

Yeah, but you don't need a special amp.  HE400 + Lyr/Asgard...well, you're there or nearly there.

post #13750 of 17711

Things that make you go hmmm nicholars? ^^

post #13751 of 17711
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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post
 

Yeah, but you don't need a special amp.  HE400 + Lyr/Asgard...well, you're there or nearly there.

 

So if I get it right you're of the opinion both amps will do. I'm leaning towards Asgard ofcourse for it's price. According to Schitt ''guides'' they're both meant to drive planars.

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Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

 

So if I get it right you're of the opinion both amps will do. I'm leaning towards Asgard ofcourse for it's price. According to Schitt ''guides'' they're both meant to drive planars.

Oh sorry, I meant for the price of the 400 + one of those amps, you're nearly at the TH600 price.

 

I haven't heard the 400 with those amps, but I'm sure they'd sound great with it. They definitely have the necessary power. I'm personally a fan of tubes.

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You don't need one of those amps for the HE400 though... But if I had £500 spare I would be interested in trying the TH600... Depends how much you are willing to spend.... TH600 probably has better treble, not sure about the rest of it as I have not heard them, although the D2000 which are Fostex headphones were very good and the TH600 are compared to the D7000.

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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post

 

Oh sorry, I meant for the price of the 400 + one of those amps, you're nearly at the TH600 price.

 

Yeah sure, double murder me LOL! :D

post #13755 of 17711
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

Something like this sounds good to me with electronic music.... I am a bit of a basshead.... That amount of treble EQ removes most of the tizz / sibilance and you do not lose much detail.  Change the amount of bass and treble depending how much you like... Also depending on the quality of the recording / mp3... I dont like sibilance...

 

 

Here is an even more EQ'd version for uber bass and smooth treble.... Might look like a lot but it's good if the recording is bad or the mp3 low bitrate.... The HE400 still sound brighter than something like HD650, even with this much EQ....

This is a good example of what I would call someone trying to "get a downward sloping line". :wink_face:

 

Seriously though, I would rather have a phone that errs on "bright", than one that is so polite it never gets rockin'. Ever been to a concert? Christ everytime I go to one I just want to beat the sound board guys. You can't hear the out of control treble dude? God bless the HE-400s slight attempt to be tame . . . it would be too much without that scoop!

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