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post #13576 of 19813
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The same reasons many companies use things that the community deems inferior and get modded to hell and back. Lack of R&D and extensive testing, perhaps. They probably focused on the actual drivers, and less on the pads. I mean if you look at the HE-4 pads... the mechanism to attach them is THE WORST THING EVER. I mean, WTF were they thinking?

 

I hear you there 

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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post
 

Audio-gd Compass 2 8741? It makes more sense to go with the warmer Wolfson chips one ($429) and then move to (or buy same time)the high-detail ESS chip if need-be vs buying stock ESS model ($499) from the get-go....then you have the OPA upgrades as well for even more dial-in... Earth/Moon/Sun modules

 

That is one tweakable DAC/amp !

 

I honestly like NOS and PCM dacs the best, both of my hifiman DAPS have the nicest sound signiture! The AGD 1oES2 with with ESS Sabre 9018 is great with my Dt 880 and HE 400 but it makes the w1000x to thin, the w1000x how ever sounds a smidge heavier and a little warmer SE out of the HM 801 and pb1, that said I hope to move to a Refrance 10.33 at some point my self

 

still wish I'd know about the compass 2 when I got my M Stage :/ 

post #13577 of 19813

Stock pleather vs velour is a bit pointless because you need to just mod the pads or buy some jergpads and they are far better than both. You would be silly not to either mod the pads or buy jergpads because it makes a big difference to the quality and is not that hard to do.

post #13578 of 19813
Thread Starter 

I find that the pleather is quite inferior to to the velour. The velour pales in comparison to the jergpads. 

 

I've to decided to jump back into camp hifiman. Ordered the he-4 on Saturday from Justin at headamp for $350 NIB. I may not understand what hp or signature works for all people but I have learned a few things about myself. And one is that comfort reigns supreme over everything in the end. I have lusted over the lcd2 for a year now after auditioning them. Then about six months ago I had an opportunity to purchase a pair for $600 mint. I lost sleep over  that decision. Ultimately they would have been too heavy, clamped too much and gotten little head time. I have almost bought the he500, again...but would have given up on it for basically the same reasons. 

 

The he-4 is light enough for me to enjoy for hours at a time. The jergpads work nicely with them. With a little hardware EQ they are an oustanding hp and gets me back to that visceral bass impact and planar sound that I've missed with my hd650. About 60% of the music that I listen to work works very well with the hd650. But I'd love to have the he-4 for that other 40%. 

 

Hifiman would be remiss to overlook the effects/advantages of the jergpads. Of course it will never happen. All those who have performed the full mod realize that it's a fair amount of work. I'm sure that hifiman knows this as well. But how nice would it be to see them incorporate the pad design into the all new 2014 he450? :veryevil:

post #13579 of 19813

If MLE is a +1 for velours, and I am another vote for velours-- and if I add in David Mahler's vote for Velours :veryevil:, then the vote is now:

 

 Pleathers: 1

Velours: 5

 

 

In other news, Matt is MLE 2.0  :D

post #13580 of 19813
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

If MLE is a +1 for velours, and I am another vote for velours-- and if I add in David Mahler's vote for Velours :veryevil:, then the vote is now:

 

 Pleathers: 1

Velours: 5

 

 

In other news, Matt is MLE 2.0  :D

 

haha...I consider that a compliment. :tongue:

post #13581 of 19813
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

If MLE is a +1 for velours, and I am another vote for velours-- and if I add in David Mahler's vote for Velours :veryevil:, then the vote is now:

 

 Pleathers: 1

Velours: 5

 

 

In other news, Matt is MLE 2.0  :D

Actually Matt is -1 pleathers, 0 velours, +1 modified pleathers. (or 0 pleathers, +1 velours, +2 modified pleathers; whichever tally works lol)

post #13582 of 19813

Notch another one in favor of velours, no comparison imo.

post #13583 of 19813
That's the one I had my eye on. I was thinking of the 11.32 until I realized the flexiBility of the compass 2.
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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post

Audio-gd Compass 2 8741? It makes more sense to go with the warmer Wolfson chips one ($429) and then move to (or buy same time)the high-detail ESS chip if need-be vs buying stock ESS model ($499) from the get-go....then you have the OPA upgrades as well for even more dial-in... Earth/Moon/Sun modules

That is one tweakable DAC/amp !
post #13584 of 19813
+1 for the velours here, too. I'm excited about receiving my modded jergpads from Modulor though!
post #13585 of 19813

I wish I had the skills to do the jergmod >_<

post #13586 of 19813
Thread Starter 

No skillz required, just cash. :biggrin:

post #13587 of 19813
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

No skillz required, just cash. :biggrin:

pretty sure Modular closed his odors right, non the less I'm sure he'll open it up again! 

post #13588 of 19813
I fully expect Matt to sell his HE-4 soon for these...

http://www.head-fi.org/t/685704/oppo-pm-1-a-new-planar-magnetic-headphone
post #13589 of 19813
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

No skillz required, just cash. :biggrin:

I just had hand surgery so im sol lol, it'll be a couple months until I have normal movement again like 2-3 :triportsad: I'm just unlucky. 

 

 

hopefully modular will have another batch or someone will sell me a pair


Edited by renji1337 - 10/13/13 at 3:13pm
post #13590 of 19813
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I fully expect Matt to sell his HE-4 soon for these...

http://www.head-fi.org/t/685704/oppo-pm-1-a-new-planar-magnetic-headphone

If he does... I might totally buy his from him 

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