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What Thujone said - also, think of a large bell ringing (if you've ever heard one up close)...you can hear the sound resonating in the chamber for a period after you strike it.  In the case for certain headphones, the chamber between your ear an the driver can cause resonance at certain frequencies mostly depending on pad or cup material.

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Originally Posted by modulor View Post
 

What Thujone said - also, think of a large bell ringing (if you've ever heard one up close)...you can hear the sound resonating in the chamber for a period after you strike it.  In the case for certain headphones, the chamber between your ear an the driver can cause resonance at certain frequencies mostly depending on pad or cup material.

Good way to put it

 

also any one have any suggestions on a Closed Headphone that sounds simmilar to the HE 400 [sound stage and Flat bass response]

 

I'm thinking D2 or D5k, might look into what ever mods are nessicary for both

post #13473 of 17943

I found a lot of similarities between the HE-400 and Mad Dogs 3.2 besides the treble.

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Thanks so much gentlemen (or women). 

 

How would these babies compare to the T1? It's kinda the only dynamic I'm considering 4 future, I'm pretty hooked on this planar sound bc of the BASS mmmmhmm

post #13475 of 17943

If you have issues with the HE-400 treble, I think it's safe to say that you should steer clear of the T1 (based on plots).

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I found a lot of similarities between the HE-400 and Mad Dogs 3.2 besides the treble.

Ahh but with what pads? I found the HE 400 with the Stock Pleathers to sound like the Mad Dog 3.2 did... to thick for my tastes... and the Mad Dog which had great bass, was WAY to thick in the mids for my tastes... after a week I sold it

 

The AD might be worth looking into but... at that price... maybe not 

post #13477 of 17943

I really enjoyed the T1 what little I listened to it, but it does have some tizziness just like the HE-400 in the treble.  

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Ahh but with what pads? I found the HE 400 with the Stock Pleathers to sound like the Mad Dog 3.2 did... to thick for my tastes... and the Mad Dog which had great bass, was WAY to thick in the mids for my tastes... after a week I sold it

 

The AD might be worth looking into but... at that price... maybe not 

 

 

The Mad Dogs weren't too thick for me when comparing to the HE-400 using stock velours.  There was a congestion factor, but for me the D2000 had that as well.  I really don't know of any closed headphones that sound as similar to the HE-400 than the Mad Dogs.  Maybe the LCD-XC but :eek:

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

Good way to put it

 

also any one have any suggestions on a Closed Headphone that sounds simmilar to the HE 400 [sound stage and Flat bass response]

 

I'm thinking D2 or D5k, might look into what ever mods are nessicary for both

 

I feel like any headphone with a flat bass response will likely sound thick to you. Maybe sub-bass isn't your thing?

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Sub bass not someone's thing? Saddest statement ever made frown.gif
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The problem is it'd have to be a community thing, where multiple members submit their content.  I know I can dig up the 3 or so good impressions I contributed to the thread and give them links with the appropriate titles, but it's too troublesome doing it for every single major impression posted in this thread.

 

I've posted my EQ config in this thread in the past but not much people respond with impressions. If anyone's interested in giving it a try, go ahead. I'd like some feedback; I've been using it for quite a while and am very happy with the sound. I made the biggest dip at 9Khz where sibilants is at it's strongest.

 

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On their own, the D5000 I tried recently sounded quite nice.  I didn't compare them directly to the HE-400 though.  I have yet to hear a MD but they seem to be the best deal in closed headphones at the moment and the Alpha Pads are super comfortable.

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On their own, the D5000 I tried recently sounded quite nice.  I didn't compare them directly to the HE-400 though.  I have yet to hear a MD but they seem to be the best deal in closed headphones at the moment and the Alpha Pads are super comfortable.

That they are, but I tried the MD and again to thick in the mids It's the MIDS you guys, they sound just too soft and thick 

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I feel like any headphone with a flat bass response will likely sound thick to you. Maybe sub-bass isn't your thing?

no no no, I like sub bass mind you, it's the MIDS that sound thick, not thick but they lack any tactility, they are just overly soft almost veiled. Like the difference between Raw bread and fully cooked bread, the fully cooked bread [even dense bread] has a more solid texture, yeast breads can still be fully cooked and have a softness to them, but raw dough is... gummy and overly dense and thick 


Edited by Mshenay - 10/10/13 at 10:00am
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^It might be the air and tactility that the treble creates, and not the mids, as the HE-400 (treble aside) has dark (and therefore possibly thicker) mids that is a problem to you. Or perhaps you like your bass dry and not full sounding? Or is the bass/lower mids the problem for you when it becomes too thick and overwhelming? 


Edited by davidsh - 10/10/13 at 10:11am
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If you want more speed and a drier tone than the HE400, the HE-4 would fit the bill.
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