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What does lean mean in sound? Never really got that one.

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What does lean mean in sound? Never really got that one.

It means less or in some cases thinner.

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HE500 sounds thicker/lusher than HE400 by default (just a difference in the driver tuning). HE400 has a leaner bass, leaner midrange, leaner treble. HE500 with the full Jergpads (including the outer port holes and open vents) still sounds a fair bit lusher and more at-ease than HE400 with stock pleathers. 

 

HE500 + velours though gets a bit too bright and thin IMO. It becomes as fatiguing as HE400s (quite bright up top), but with a thinner bottom end than HE400; as you might imagine, not great.


I must disagree here. I don't find the HE-500 with the velours fatiguing at all, nor thin. It sounds fuller/thicker than the HE-400 actually. Of course, that's my opinion. Since we all hear things differently, YMMV.


Edited by Okamoto - 10/9/13 at 3:34am
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Originally Posted by J Mirra View Post
 

It means less or in some cases thinner.

 

I like the word delicate, there is a THIN line between Lean and delicate an thin. 

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I must disagree here. I don't find the HE-500 with the velours fatiguing at all, nor thin. It sounds fuller/thicker than the HE-400 actually. Of course, that's my opinion. Since we all hear things differently, YMMV.

Indeed 

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I must disagree here. I don't find the HE-500 with the velours fatiguing at all, nor thin. It sounds fuller/thicker than the HE-400 actually. Of course, that's my opinion. Since we all hear things differently, YMMV.

I'm in the same boat the he500 with velour doesn't sound fatiguing like the he400. The he500 mids sounds thicker and the treble is smooth, this is of the lyr.
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I'm in the same boat the he500 with velour doesn't sound fatiguing like the he400. The he500 mids sounds thicker and the treble is smooth, this is of the lyr.

 

wow thicker mids... yea I think I'll pass q.q the HE 400

 

also some bad news guys... I might need a second Pair of J$Money Pads... I need a closed BASS Head can... and I think using the J$money on the W1000x will give it some SERIOUS bass [if it makes the Dt 880 a bass machine... should work even more so with a closed back dynamic right?]

 

Any one have any thoughts and an extra pair for sale ;3 

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Get the jergpads for your HE-400. Problem solved.

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Get the jergpads for your HE-400. Problem solved.

 

BUT OH wait, then my HE 400 sounds to thick, did you forget that I hated pleather and I like the THIN COLD sound of the J$money Pads

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I'm using TM raven's "balanced" iTunes EQ for the 400 -- WOW. It really brings the treble in nicely.  I'm also experiencing more natural female vocals and mids in general TBH, possibly due to the flatter FR bringing the overtones more in line?

 

I still use his "what sibilance" setting for most electronic music because the bass is more emphasized though :-) 

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I'm using TM raven's "balanced" iTunes EQ for the 400 -- WOW. It really brings the treble in nicely.  I'm also experiencing more natural female vocals and mids in general TBH, possibly due to the flatter FR bringing the overtones more in line?

 

I still use his "what sibilance" setting for most electronic music because the bass is more emphasized though :-) 

Kinda the purpose of the high-mids bump in that EQ preset, yes.

 

It would be nice if we can agree on some EQ presets that Matt can add to the OP, maybe TMRavens presets, as many new owners tend to ask about EQ every once in a while.


Edited by davidsh - 10/9/13 at 1:05pm
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I've since updated my HE-400 EQ settings to be more to my liking.  I brought up the idea of linking the major impressions, comparisons and reviews involving the HE-400 from within this thread to be as part of the initial post but no success yet.

 


Edited by TMRaven - 10/9/13 at 2:11pm
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I've since updated my HE-400 EQ settings to be more to my liking.  I brought up the idea of linking the major impressions, comparisons and reviews involving the HE-400 from within this thread to be as part of the initial post but no success yet.

 

Maybe we can convince jerg to edit the second post :veryevil: 

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Just PM me the formatted content TMRaven and I can paste it into the 2nd post.

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I don't find the HE-4 to do EDM better than the HE-400, but it does everything else better, since it's more balanced and airy. The HE-400 has a deepness/rawness to it's bass that the HE-4 doesn't touch (though it has fantastic bass extension)

 

What other headphones do you think are better than HE-400 for EDM?

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Just PM me the formatted content TMRaven and I can paste it into the 2nd post.

 

 

The problem is it'd have to be a community thing, where multiple members submit their content.  I know I can dig up the 3 or so good impressions I contributed to the thread and give them links with the appropriate titles, but it's too troublesome doing it for every single major impression posted in this thread.

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