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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

No problem, it's just what I do!

 

ahh I was looking forward to another question, oh well

 

still I own 2 source and 1 amp. Like the vairety, as what makes music special out of each is the combination of flaws, so to say

 

that said, enjoying the Current Value on the HE 400 looking forwarding to running it balanced tommorow :D the balanced output REALLY made the Dt 880 strech it's legs. Gave the bass some real body and weight to it, the SE out of the AGD and my Pb1 both have an almost veil to the bass... 

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Found a track with female vocals "off". Fever - Ray Charles and Natalie Cole. She sounds congested bEing at that dip and peak of the response.
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See she sounds just fine to me in that song regardless if I EQ the upper mids up or not.  But I've never heard her perform in person so I don't know how she's supposed to sound.

 

Literally the only time I've noticed coloration the most in my headphones is when I mix a composition with them and then play it later through a pair of active monitors.  Things sound off real fast if it doesn't sound like what you were working with.  


Edited by TMRaven - 9/29/13 at 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

See she sounds just fine to me in that song regardless if I EQ the upper mids up or not.  But I've never heard her perform in person so I don't know how she's supposed to sound.

 

Literally the only time I've noticed coloration the most in my headphones is when I mix a composition with them and then play it later through a pair of active monitors.  Things sound off real fast if it doesn't sound like what you were working with.  

 

Nice review on the He 400... I should do one with my DT 990 Pro 250 vs the HE 400 might be a fun read 

 

Liked how it read as well, 

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Found a track with female vocals "off". Fever - Ray Charles and Natalie Cole. She sounds congested bEing at that dip and peak of the response.

Brought home the Yulong D100 from the office to test the female vocals. Previously it was just on my e7 and lenovo laptop.

Natalie Cole does not sound wonky on this setup. Nor does Adele or Lana Del Ray. XPS-Yulong D100-HE400.



Using the low impedance port with sound 2 (tames the highs) there are no sibilant highs and female voices are forward. The D100 is a neutral sounding dac with a slight lean towards bright. The previous owner raved about it with Denons and Fostex.
Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 9/29/13 at 11:25pm
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I just that I think vocals could sound better at times, the combiation of bright treble and recessed upper mids can make the vocals sort of distant yet bright and sibilant at the same time..... However generally vocals sound pretty good and sometimes they have a really nice 3D effect to them which is as good or better than I have heard on any headphones. I think the only way you can get headphones that sound good with every recording is to either own multiple pairs or maybe some LCD3 or similar. Probably even on the LCD3 there will be some songs that don't work well with them.

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If you were going to approach the issue with a confirmation bias that a headphone with uneven frequency response were to make vocals sound unnatural, then it's kinda funny that you would think some songs have nice sounding vocals whereas others wouldn't.

 

Wouldn't it be "expectation bias" if it was before you listened ? :P I am being pedantic :)

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Found a track with female vocals "off". Fever - Ray Charles and Natalie Cole. She sounds congested bEing at that dip and peak of the response.

 

What do you mean?

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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post


Brought home the Yulong D100 from the office to test the female vocals. Previously it was just on my e7 and lenovo laptop.

Natalie Cole does not sound wonky on this setup. Nor does Adele or Lana Del Ray. XPS-Yulong D100-HE400.



Using the low impedance port with sound 2 (tames the highs) there are no sibilant highs and female voices are forward. The D100 is a neutral sounding dac with a slight lean towards bright. The previous owner raved about it with Denons and Fostex.

 

Whoa Adele should sound great out of the HE 400, all that LOW mid in her voice and those cans [I'll have to give her a lsiten at home]

 

Still I wish Adele's music was better mastered :/ I stopped listening due to the serious lack of dynamics in her music. It's all the same realitive volume with varying pitch... sounds terribly bland imo, which is a shame becauses she has such a nice deep dynamic voice! 

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^^ I agree that her recording are not exceptionally well mastered. There are some live tracks on the 19 album that sound really nice though. And the Live at Royal Albert Hall is quite good also. 

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^^ I agree that her recording are not exceptionally well mastered. There are some live tracks on the 19 album that sound really nice though. And the Live at Royal Albert Hall is quite good also. 

 

Ooh I'll have to try Live at Royal Albert Hall then :D

 

Also unrealted bonus, the W1000x sounds better out of the Hm801 headphone out than it does Line out with the PB1 tee hee, still thinking of going with a

RSA f-35 in the winter... since I busted the Gain Switch on my pb1 it's time I UPGRADE, besides that tax money deserves to go to something worth while darn it.

 

Still I hear the f-35 has the "wire and gain" aspect to it... which is nice, as the Hm801 sounds better than the pb1 amp for amp, but the pb1's power is NEEDED for the HE 400 and Dt 880, as they both sound better the more power I have on tap for them! 

 

Still I do like simplification and upgrades :3. I might even give my pb1 away, seeing as it's a high gain only amp now <.< [or sell it for like $50] 

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Boy these are as awesome as they are heavy. Really love the soundsignature. And the great news is that they work well with my whole music library.

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Boy these are as awesome as they are heavy. Really love the soundsignature. And the great news is that they work well with my whole music library.

 

awesome what is your source and amping :D 

 

They are heavy but I don't find it to be an issue. Althogh those J$Money pads are very comfy! And GUYS I get to try my FULLY balanced HE 400 in about 2 hours :D I expect a deeper more visceral bass once I slot the HE 400 into 6w of POWA [my dt 880 got nice and DEEP TIGHT bass once I balanced it ]

 

Also I mentioned I forced my PB1 into high gain only, the good new is that me He 400 and Dt 880 need high gain BUT here's the catch my w1000x actually sounds a little better out of the Hm801 Headphone amp :O SUPRISE the hm801 has a good headphone out [the Hm601 headphone out was bleh compared to it's line out]

 

So YAY, still I'm planning of grabbing a RSA F-35 in the winter! Figured the portable set up really deserves a better amp. Still I do love my Pb1 atm :3

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I use the Aune T1 but I am thinking to get a new DAC/AMP like the Burson HA-160D.

 

I already gave the W1000x to my dad and he likes the Aune T1 too (the looks of it, lol) so might give them to him too and just get a better DAC/AMP. Would the Burson be a good upgrade or should I consider something different. The DAC/AMP is also for future headphones that need more power.

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Originally Posted by Textfeud View Post
 

I use the Aune T1 but I am thinking to get a new DAC/AMP like the Burson HA-160D.

 

I already gave the W1000x to my dad and he likes the Aune T1 too (the looks of it, lol) so might give them to him too and just get a better DAC/AMP. Would the Burson be a good upgrade or should I consider something different. The DAC/AMP is also for future headphones that need more power.

 

is the Aune T1 a Tube Dac/Amp :O and I bet he likes it q.q 

 

what though made u give up the w1000x? I like it and the He 400, the w1000x [after some mods] is GREAT for both upper and low mid heavy vocals! I mean it's a great all around can as well but really shines with Acoustic and Vocal stuff 

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