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post #13111 of 19961
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Originally Posted by amigomatt View Post
I would try anything, becuase they are SO nearly there!  I'm in the middle of a rare extended late night listening session for myself at the moment. 

 

Try putting an extra layer or two of felt between the drivers and your ear. You could try different thickness/layers/patterns to see what works. You might find a median of less timbre and still keep the vividness.

I'm listening to it now on my Matrix Mini-I, a warm/analog sounding dac+amp. When I want analytical and clarity, I plug it to my Yulong D100, keep it on low impedance port + sound2 (which rolls the highs a bit) and you've got replication without piercing highs. I like to keep it on the musical side, so it gets a lot of time with the Mini-i.

Hope you find your mod, these are fantastic headphones indeed

post #13112 of 19961

I agree with what you said there, for electronic sounds or music where there is no reference to real sounds, the HE400 treble is not a problem and can sound really good at times, for example well recorded electronic music the treble actually works well.... For music which is based on real instruments or sounds and requires a natural timbre, the wonky upper mids and treble on these becomes an issue and does not sound as natural as some other headphones... My advice would be either upgrade to some HE500 / LCD2 or keep the HE400 for the genres they are v good at and buy some HD600/HD650 or similar for the genres that the HE400 is not so good at....


Edited by nicholars - 9/27/13 at 11:58pm
post #13113 of 19961
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

I agree with what you said there, for electronic sounds or music where there is no reference to real sounds, the HE400 treble is not a problem and can sound really good at times, for music which is based on real instruments or sounds and requires a natural timbre, the wonky upper mids and treble on these becomes an issue and does not sound as natural as some other headphones.... My advice would be either upgrade to some HE500 / LCD2 or keep the HE400 for the genres they are v good at and buy some HD600/HD650 or similar for the genres that the HE400 is not so good at....

indeed I'm getting it specifically for only: EDM
post #13114 of 19961
I feel with ya, amigomatt. Concerning your priorities you shouldn't have bought them in the first place, though. Maybe you should go Stax?
post #13115 of 19961

after many combinations ... I think this is pretty good...
He400 with Burson HA160D jack connected in H, connected in L seems a little flat sound.
I'm waiting to come home jergpad (Modulor)

Do you have any advice to improve the parameters with the Burson?


Edited by 55dsl - 9/28/13 at 4:22am
post #13116 of 19961
Thread Starter 

Amigomatt...this jergpads will alleviate but not completely fix the treble issue. The he500 is probably much closer to what you want. The he-4 is great but needs a beastly amp to really hear what it should sound like. Stax will give you everything and moon but you'll be eating Ramen for the next five years....maybe more.

 

The Maddogs are something that you should also consider...beautifully balanced with strong linear bass. The Alpha dog will be a really nice improvement across the spectrum on the MD. 

 

gL!!

post #13117 of 19961
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

Amigomatt...this jergpads will alleviate but not completely fix the treble issue. The he500 is probably much closer to what you want. The he-4 is great but needs a beastly amp to really hear what it should sound like. Stax will give you everything and moon but you'll be eating Ramen for the next five years....maybe more.

 

The Maddogs are something that you should also consider...beautifully balanced with strong linear bass. The Alpha dog will be a really nice improvement across the spectrum on the MD. 

 

gL!!

 

UGH I want to hear a Balanced AD

q.q

 

my he400 should be here today, and the balanced cable monday! 

post #13118 of 19961

Balanced... Ain't exactly anything magical after all.

Lolz, I have ended up with the B&O H6 as well so now I have the momentums, h6 and the hfi780 just for full-size portable cans :eek:

 

What has happened the last month?!?

post #13119 of 19961
Thread Starter 

I'm getting a little OOC myself. I like to keep my two hp rule intact but it's suffering. I added the Sony mdr-ma900 because MLE loaned them to me. They sounded so nice...really nice and then I saw them for $139 on ebay and could not resist. :o

 

Now the Alpha dogs are almost here. Getting a bit crazy. 

post #13120 of 19961
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

I'm getting a little OOC myself. I like to keep my two hp rule intact but it's suffering. I added the Sony mdr-ma900 because MLE loaned them to me. They sounded so nice...really nice and then I saw them for $139 on ebay and could not resist. :o

 

Now the Alpha dogs are almost here. Getting a bit crazy. 

 

>.> I had 6 at one point, and I'm trying to cut down to 3 

post #13121 of 19961
Thread Starter 

Do iem's count? If yes, that will count as five for me once the AD is here next week. 

post #13122 of 19961
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post
 

 

Try putting an extra layer or two of felt between the drivers and your ear. You could try different thickness/layers/patterns to see what works. You might find a median of less timbre and still keep the vividness.

I'm listening to it now on my Matrix Mini-I, a warm/analog sounding dac+amp. When I want analytical and clarity, I plug it to my Yulong D100, keep it on low impedance port + sound2 (which rolls the highs a bit) and you've got replication without piercing highs. I like to keep it on the musical side, so it gets a lot of time with the Mini-i.

Hope you find your mod, these are fantastic headphones indeed

 

Better yet, get a microfiber cloth and cut a disk out of it an lay that down in the pad. I was having treble issues when modding my T50RP and I came across a user who used microfiber in front of the driver and he showed the results from his measuring equipment. Microfiber works perfectly to mellow out the treble in that region without touching anything else. I would definitely give it a try!

 

As MattTCG stated, getting the modulor pads will NOT fix your problem. The only part of the mod that helps the treble is cutting holes in the pleathers, which it sounds like you've already done.

post #13123 of 19961
How do you lessen the clamp on these?
post #13124 of 19961
Thread Starter 

Just bend the metal headband "flat" for a few seconds. May take a few times. Check in between bending and don't damage the cups!!

post #13125 of 19961

What do you use to add some foam between the drivers and your ears? Sounds interesting, how about the beyerdynamic foam pieces?

 

http://www.showcomms.co.uk/spares/dt770-spares/dt770-dt880-dt990-foam-insert-sold-individually-933395.html


Edited by nicholars - 9/28/13 at 9:49am
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