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post #13111 of 18450
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$120? Which cable did you buy?

I paid $150 for the stock HE-6 XLR cable.

 

Got a used Hifiman Toxic Silver Copper Hybrid, balanced out ofc 

post #13112 of 18450
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Stupid question: but where can I get these in Europe? I just bought these on Headfi and get wait to finally hear them. Obviously want the jergpads by modular since I heard great thing about them!

 

The jergpads by Modular have become incredibly popular even in Europe. That can be purchased from any convenience store, QuickTrip or 7-11. 

post #13113 of 18450
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The jergpads by Modular have become incredibly popular even in Europe. That can be purchased from any convenience store, QuickTrip or 7-11.

:D

post #13114 of 18450
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The jergpads by Modular have become incredibly popular even in Europe. That can be purchased from any convenience store, QuickTrip or 7-11. 

 

Aah damn, I wish the Quicktrip or 7-11 would become incredibly popular in Europe too so I could purchase them!

post #13115 of 18450

Yeah, cables can be overpriced.

The ones for my HE-400 costed 257 PLN, about 82 dollars.

The ones for my asgard costed 95 PLN, about 30 dollars.

 

And those are the "cheap" options. 

If I go to any store I can buy a very similar cable for 15 PLN, but i have to admit the finishing on the cables that are more expensive looks great :D.

post #13116 of 18450

I just recently purchased a pair of Hifiman HE 400. The stock was brand new, from a newly authorized dealer on ebay who just received stock like 2 weeks ago from factory sealed boxes. 

 

My number on the warranty card was like 3 million something. Not sure if that helps with estimating the number of them out there or not. 

post #13117 of 18450

I feel quite sad to say this, but I've really tried with these cans since February.  There's so many things I love about them, but I'm an orchestral musician and need to not have that artificial spike in treble.  I've tried it straight, through a tube amp, through a full size old Arcam.  Of course, some recordings are worse and some better and when it comes to artifical sounds, like electronic music and the like, where there's no right or wrong in terms of timbre, these things are amazing!  They rock my socks off in so many ways, but trying to listen to real instruments recorded live, such as big orchestras and the like, they are grating me.  That treble spike amounts to a defect for me.  Yes, I've tried pad mods etc.  Admittedly, I didn't finish the jerg mod with sub bass mod etc., but I still always preferred the velours by far.  I don't want to see these go, but I might have to change them for something else.  Would the HE-4 satisfy me?  I dunno?  The HE-500?  I want realism and neutrality.  I have an ancient pair of AKG K240DFs and I so wish I could transplant the HE-400 bass onto them!

 

I did message Modular about his new batch of pads but haven't heard back.  I would try them.  I would try anything, becuase they are SO nearly there!  I'm in the middle of a rare extended late night listening session for myself at the moment.  A few beers, and free reign to all sorts of weird and wonderful recordings.  I keep flipping back to my HD598s just to experience the warmth and humanity in certain records as the very nature of these HifiMans are drawing my attention away from the music!  But, theHD598s lack the dynamics and all out vividness of these orthos.  So frustrating having spent so much money (not that they are not worth it).  I'm absolutely understanding of anyone who loves these cans and I have with pleasure blown my friends' minds when they've come over with these things.  But, when you play regularly in a big symphony orchestra (I play trumpet freelance) and various other ensembles - when you know what that sound is like, I can't help but be dissapointed with the treble spike that just literally adds an unnatural zing to everything.  It ruins it.  It may add air (a bit too much!), but it's a flaw and a hard to stomach flaw at that.  These would be nigh on perfect without that spike.  Also, don't tell me to EQ, because I can't do that on all my setups.  I can't EQ my turntable or CD player through my amp etc...  Also, if I really need to EQ that much or scrabble trying to correct things with pads, it's not right.

 

Sorry if I seem negative, I love this thread and have quietly read the whole thing, plus it's relevant links.  I'm just disappointed that I don't think I can keep them, yet don't know where to go next without being disappointed after sampling all the great qualities these things have offered me!

 

Sorry, slightly drunk rant - any input welcome.. 


Edited by amigomatt - 9/27/13 at 8:32pm
post #13118 of 18450
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I would try anything, becuase they are SO nearly there!  I'm in the middle of a rare extended late night listening session for myself at the moment. 

 

Try putting an extra layer or two of felt between the drivers and your ear. You could try different thickness/layers/patterns to see what works. You might find a median of less timbre and still keep the vividness.

I'm listening to it now on my Matrix Mini-I, a warm/analog sounding dac+amp. When I want analytical and clarity, I plug it to my Yulong D100, keep it on low impedance port + sound2 (which rolls the highs a bit) and you've got replication without piercing highs. I like to keep it on the musical side, so it gets a lot of time with the Mini-i.

Hope you find your mod, these are fantastic headphones indeed

post #13119 of 18450

I agree with what you said there, for electronic sounds or music where there is no reference to real sounds, the HE400 treble is not a problem and can sound really good at times, for example well recorded electronic music the treble actually works well.... For music which is based on real instruments or sounds and requires a natural timbre, the wonky upper mids and treble on these becomes an issue and does not sound as natural as some other headphones... My advice would be either upgrade to some HE500 / LCD2 or keep the HE400 for the genres they are v good at and buy some HD600/HD650 or similar for the genres that the HE400 is not so good at....


Edited by nicholars - 9/27/13 at 11:58pm
post #13120 of 18450
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I agree with what you said there, for electronic sounds or music where there is no reference to real sounds, the HE400 treble is not a problem and can sound really good at times, for music which is based on real instruments or sounds and requires a natural timbre, the wonky upper mids and treble on these becomes an issue and does not sound as natural as some other headphones.... My advice would be either upgrade to some HE500 / LCD2 or keep the HE400 for the genres they are v good at and buy some HD600/HD650 or similar for the genres that the HE400 is not so good at....

indeed I'm getting it specifically for only: EDM
post #13121 of 18450
I feel with ya, amigomatt. Concerning your priorities you shouldn't have bought them in the first place, though. Maybe you should go Stax?
post #13122 of 18450

after many combinations ... I think this is pretty good...
He400 with Burson HA160D jack connected in H, connected in L seems a little flat sound.
I'm waiting to come home jergpad (Modulor)

Do you have any advice to improve the parameters with the Burson?


Edited by 55dsl - 9/28/13 at 4:22am
post #13123 of 18450
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Amigomatt...this jergpads will alleviate but not completely fix the treble issue. The he500 is probably much closer to what you want. The he-4 is great but needs a beastly amp to really hear what it should sound like. Stax will give you everything and moon but you'll be eating Ramen for the next five years....maybe more.

 

The Maddogs are something that you should also consider...beautifully balanced with strong linear bass. The Alpha dog will be a really nice improvement across the spectrum on the MD. 

 

gL!!

post #13124 of 18450
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

Amigomatt...this jergpads will alleviate but not completely fix the treble issue. The he500 is probably much closer to what you want. The he-4 is great but needs a beastly amp to really hear what it should sound like. Stax will give you everything and moon but you'll be eating Ramen for the next five years....maybe more.

 

The Maddogs are something that you should also consider...beautifully balanced with strong linear bass. The Alpha dog will be a really nice improvement across the spectrum on the MD. 

 

gL!!

 

UGH I want to hear a Balanced AD

q.q

 

my he400 should be here today, and the balanced cable monday! 

post #13125 of 18450

Balanced... Ain't exactly anything magical after all.

Lolz, I have ended up with the B&O H6 as well so now I have the momentums, h6 and the hfi780 just for full-size portable cans :eek:

 

What has happened the last month?!?

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