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post #13036 of 20630
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

Clearly I am taking too many stimulants then, bit of a stimulant fiend haha...

 

I have noticed that it is VERY much to do with volume, at mid / high volume these things destroy my ears in no time but at moderate / low volume I can use them for hours even without much EQ.

 

Also obviously the recording / MP3 quality makes a massive difference, high quality FLAC recordings sound pretty much smooth whereas low quality / bad recording sound vile on the HE400.

 

Oh yea well everything I Have is in flac, and I DO NOT like high volume! Med to low ALWAYS

post #13037 of 20630
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

 

Oh yea well everything I Have is in flac, and I DO NOT like high volume! Med to low ALWAYS

 

Wouldn't it be awesome if our ears could just take high decibels for as long as we wanted ;-(

 
With tinnitus I'm one of the ones banking on medical advances for the ears
post #13038 of 20630

I am actually a bit worried about my hearing recently and as a result I only listen at moderate volumes, I think it is because when I was younger I used to listen to headphones really loud etc.... Since I have lowered the volume I do not have much problems with Tinnitus and ear pain with the HE400 but as soon as the volume creeps up my ears will start to physically hurt and then I will get tinnitus afterwards.... Not good... Need to find some way of setting a physical volume limit on foobar....


Edited by nicholars - 9/24/13 at 10:47am
post #13039 of 20630
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

I am actually a bit worried about my hearing recently and as a result I only listen at moderate volumes, I think it is because when I was younger I used to listen to headphones really loud etc.... Since I have lowered the volume I do not have much problems with Tinnitus and ear pain with the HE400 but as soon as the volume creeps up my ears will start to physically hurt and then I will get tinnitus afterwards.... Not good...

 

Better than me man. I'm 22 and listen at low-ish levels and still get amplified ringing after just a little while. It's better than my amperior though, I get fatigue really quickly on them. 

 
And after a long listening session i get that earmuff feeling a little bit. Shouldn't happen b/c i listen at low levels but still does :-( 
 
Annnd my right ear seems to not hear as well as my left. been going on for about a year. idk if it's due to a small amount of fluid not draining from middle ear or what... but makes the center stage come from a little bit off to the left. totally messes up having a perfect soundstage
post #13040 of 20630
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Originally Posted by mogulmaster View Post
 

 

Wouldn't it be awesome if our ears could just take high decibels for as long as we wanted ;-(

 
With tinnitus I'm one of the ones banking on medical advances for the ears

>.> sorry to hear it

 

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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

I am actually a bit worried about my hearing recently and as a result I only listen at moderate volumes, I think it is because when I was younger I used to listen to headphones really loud etc.... Since I have lowered the volume I do not have much problems with Tinnitus and ear pain with the HE400 but as soon as the volume creeps up my ears will start to physically hurt and then I will get tinnitus afterwards.... Not good... Need to find some way of setting a physical volume limit on foobar....

define younger, I actually had a strange habbit when I was a kid. HEadphones where never loud enough for me, so to get that IMPACT I used to listen to it REALLY quiet, then after like 30 mins I'd CRANK IT UP for like 10 mins, then back down again... so thankfully I didn't ruin my hearing to much, but I too was a Loud User... till I got to head fi and was told "it really does sound better quieter" and it really does 

post #13041 of 20630

As you increase the volume, your ears fill with fluid in order to protect your ears. As the fluid increases, the volume is perceptively quieter, thus you turn the volume up again. Vicious positive feedback cycle.

post #13042 of 20630
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post
 

As you increase the volume, your ears fill with fluid in order to protect your ears. As the fluid increases, the volume is perceptively quieter, thus you turn the volume up again. Vicious positive feedback cycle.

 

Where did you hear about this fluid? I know that there is the Acoustic Reflex, in which your Tensor Tympani muscle contracts to restrict the ear drum in order for less decibels to be transmitted to the inner ear. 

 
I don't know about fluid though...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_reflex
post #13043 of 20630
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post
 

As you increase the volume, your ears fill with fluid in order to protect your ears. As the fluid increases, the volume is perceptively quieter, thus you turn the volume up again. Vicious positive feedback cycle.

 

Sometimes when I have sat there listening and keep turning the volume up a bit.... Then I go away for an hour or something and come back and put the headphones on and I am like **** that is loud.... I am going to try and devise some sort of volume limiter (any ideas?) because I do not particularly want to have hearing loss and tinnitus when I am old. It does seem like when exposed to loud noises your ears sort of have an internal volume control and make it sound quieter, not sure how they do it though...

post #13044 of 20630
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Originally Posted by mogulmaster View Post
 

 

Where did you hear about this fluid? I know that there is the Acoustic Reflex, in which your Tensor Tympani muscle contracts to restrict the ear drum in order for less decibels to be transmitted to the inner ear.

 
I don't know about fluid though...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_reflex

 

I learned that back in my acoustics class in college. I suppose it's quite possible that my professor had misunderstood the concept and that it is merely a contraction of muscles as you say. I wish I could remember exactly what fluid and where it accumulates but nevertheless the problem is still there. Your ears will always try to fight back a bit. This is also the reason why when you leave a loud concert, you can't hardly hear anything.

 

EDIT: Maybe cochlea fluid?


Edited by Thujone - 9/24/13 at 12:09pm
post #13045 of 20630
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post
 

As you increase the volume, your ears fill with fluid in order to protect your ears. As the fluid increases, the volume is perceptively quieter, thus you turn the volume up again. Vicious positive feedback cycle.

 

I actually find my self turning the volume down more than I turn it up, like today... It was way to loud for some reason. I turned it down quiete a few times 

 
More impoartantly ANY one know of a good place to get an OFFC Silver Cable?  Other than Toxic Cables, I like one that is sleeved and well Toxic charges double for a sleeved cable over an unsleeved 
post #13046 of 20630

You could almost sell your HE400 and upgrade to HE500 used LCD2 for the price of those cables...

post #13047 of 20630
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

You could almost sell your HE400 and upgrade to HE500 used LCD2 for the price of those cables...

 

Maybe so, I'll check around and see what pops up. 

 

But quick notes with SE again'st balanced out, on the NFB 10ES2. The bass is a little tighter on balanced, or rather the entire sound sig has a smidge more attack and not as much decay. The texture is better, and the added space of the balanced out helps to

 

that said, I'll eat the price of getting those cables 

post #13048 of 20630
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

You could almost sell your HE400 and upgrade to HE500 used LCD2 for the price of those cables...

 

Yea I know but I am happy with my he400 for now. He400 + Arrow cable = $470, He500 =$560, Audeze = out of my budget. Eventually I hope to upgrade to the LCD2 but for the small ammount of sq difference(or so I have read) I am going to stick with my he400.

 

Also I have heard the sound of the he500 is more balanced, not sure if I would like it as much as the sound of the he400


Edited by JBal4 - 9/24/13 at 6:46pm
post #13049 of 20630

The cable probably wont make any difference to sound quality though..

post #13050 of 20630

agree.would potentially make discomfort a nonissue as all the weight would be more evenly distributed.

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