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Hey guys, I'm sorry about going off track here but auditory fatigue has been a major issue for me lately - this is why I bought hd650 before he-400. 

 

He-400 has been known to be fatiguing with that weird thing in the treble, and I noticed this. It was helped a lot by EQ. 


Now to the point: 

 

I quit caffeine, and fatigue takes WAY longer to set in. Used to be 2-3 hours of low-level listening, now its about 7 hours of listening a day before fatigue really affects me. I had to post this because I haven't found anything online that mentions the correlation. 

 

Comments? 

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Now to the point: 

I quit caffeine, and fatigue takes WAY longer to set in. Used to be 2-3 hours of low-level listening, now its about 7 hours of listening a day before fatigue really affects me. I had to post this because I haven't found anything online that mentions the correlation. 

Comments? 

All stimulants will produce heightened levels of sensory experience, and anyone with hypersensitivity to anything (light, sound, etc) are generally recommended to take no stimulants among other diet changes
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Originally Posted by mogulmaster View Post
 

Hey guys, I'm sorry about going off track here but auditory fatigue has been a major issue for me lately - this is why I bought hd650 before he-400. 

 

He-400 has been known to be fatiguing with that weird thing in the treble, and I noticed this. It was helped a lot by EQ. 


Now to the point: 

 

I quit caffeine, and fatigue takes WAY longer to set in. Used to be 2-3 hours of low-level listening, now its about 7 hours of listening a day before fatigue really affects me. I had to post this because I haven't found anything online that mentions the correlation. 

 

Comments? 

:O wow maybe that's why I have 0 issues with treble fatigue... I'm pretty free of stimulants! 

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post #13039 of 18084

While I haven't owned the BeyerDynamics nor the Denons, it's still great to read how they compare or contrast on a per headphone basis.

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All stimulants will produce heightened levels of sensory experience, and anyone with hypersensitivity to anything (light, sound, etc) are generally recommended to take no stimulants among other diet changes

 

Could you be suggesting I may have early stages of H... I really do get weird fatigue from phones.. 

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Originally Posted by mogulmaster View Post
 

 

Could you be suggesting I may have early stages of H... I really do get weird fatigue from phones..

I think if the HE-400's are fatiguing to you, you must be a normal human being :cool: .

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Clearly I am taking too many stimulants then, bit of a stimulant fiend haha...

 

I have noticed that it is VERY much to do with volume, at mid / high volume these things destroy my ears in no time but at moderate / low volume I can use them for hours even without much EQ.

 

Also obviously the recording / MP3 quality makes a massive difference, high quality FLAC recordings sound pretty much smooth whereas low quality / bad recording sound vile on the HE400.


Edited by nicholars - 9/24/13 at 8:46am
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

Clearly I am taking too many stimulants then, bit of a stimulant fiend haha...

 

I have noticed that it is VERY much to do with volume, at mid / high volume these things destroy my ears in no time but at moderate / low volume I can use them for hours even without much EQ.

 

Also obviously the recording / MP3 quality makes a massive difference, high quality FLAC recordings sound pretty much smooth whereas low quality / bad recording sound vile on the HE400.

 

Oh yea well everything I Have is in flac, and I DO NOT like high volume! Med to low ALWAYS

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

 

Oh yea well everything I Have is in flac, and I DO NOT like high volume! Med to low ALWAYS

 

Wouldn't it be awesome if our ears could just take high decibels for as long as we wanted ;-(

 
With tinnitus I'm one of the ones banking on medical advances for the ears
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I am actually a bit worried about my hearing recently and as a result I only listen at moderate volumes, I think it is because when I was younger I used to listen to headphones really loud etc.... Since I have lowered the volume I do not have much problems with Tinnitus and ear pain with the HE400 but as soon as the volume creeps up my ears will start to physically hurt and then I will get tinnitus afterwards.... Not good... Need to find some way of setting a physical volume limit on foobar....


Edited by nicholars - 9/24/13 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

I am actually a bit worried about my hearing recently and as a result I only listen at moderate volumes, I think it is because when I was younger I used to listen to headphones really loud etc.... Since I have lowered the volume I do not have much problems with Tinnitus and ear pain with the HE400 but as soon as the volume creeps up my ears will start to physically hurt and then I will get tinnitus afterwards.... Not good...

 

Better than me man. I'm 22 and listen at low-ish levels and still get amplified ringing after just a little while. It's better than my amperior though, I get fatigue really quickly on them. 

 
And after a long listening session i get that earmuff feeling a little bit. Shouldn't happen b/c i listen at low levels but still does :-( 
 
Annnd my right ear seems to not hear as well as my left. been going on for about a year. idk if it's due to a small amount of fluid not draining from middle ear or what... but makes the center stage come from a little bit off to the left. totally messes up having a perfect soundstage
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Originally Posted by mogulmaster View Post
 

 

Wouldn't it be awesome if our ears could just take high decibels for as long as we wanted ;-(

 
With tinnitus I'm one of the ones banking on medical advances for the ears

>.> sorry to hear it

 

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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

I am actually a bit worried about my hearing recently and as a result I only listen at moderate volumes, I think it is because when I was younger I used to listen to headphones really loud etc.... Since I have lowered the volume I do not have much problems with Tinnitus and ear pain with the HE400 but as soon as the volume creeps up my ears will start to physically hurt and then I will get tinnitus afterwards.... Not good... Need to find some way of setting a physical volume limit on foobar....

define younger, I actually had a strange habbit when I was a kid. HEadphones where never loud enough for me, so to get that IMPACT I used to listen to it REALLY quiet, then after like 30 mins I'd CRANK IT UP for like 10 mins, then back down again... so thankfully I didn't ruin my hearing to much, but I too was a Loud User... till I got to head fi and was told "it really does sound better quieter" and it really does 

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As you increase the volume, your ears fill with fluid in order to protect your ears. As the fluid increases, the volume is perceptively quieter, thus you turn the volume up again. Vicious positive feedback cycle.

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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post
 

As you increase the volume, your ears fill with fluid in order to protect your ears. As the fluid increases, the volume is perceptively quieter, thus you turn the volume up again. Vicious positive feedback cycle.

 

Where did you hear about this fluid? I know that there is the Acoustic Reflex, in which your Tensor Tympani muscle contracts to restrict the ear drum in order for less decibels to be transmitted to the inner ear. 

 
I don't know about fluid though...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_reflex
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post
 

As you increase the volume, your ears fill with fluid in order to protect your ears. As the fluid increases, the volume is perceptively quieter, thus you turn the volume up again. Vicious positive feedback cycle.

 

Sometimes when I have sat there listening and keep turning the volume up a bit.... Then I go away for an hour or something and come back and put the headphones on and I am like **** that is loud.... I am going to try and devise some sort of volume limiter (any ideas?) because I do not particularly want to have hearing loss and tinnitus when I am old. It does seem like when exposed to loud noises your ears sort of have an internal volume control and make it sound quieter, not sure how they do it though...

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