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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

^^ This is pretty spot on. The sound stage is just tremendous on the ma900. Sound stage doesn't usually mean much to me because there seems to be something about my ear anatomy that hinders the appreciation of good sound stage. Sure I can hear the difference between closed and open. But I didn't truly appreciate sound stage until I listened to the ma900. 

 

The best example that I can give is this. Several times when listening to the ma900 and starting the music up, I thought that I had accidentally left my receiver on and that the sound was coming from my speakers. It was actually coming from the ma900. 

 

Here's an interesting thought: could try MA900's weird "open" earpads on another headphone (HE400 or anything else full-sized really) and see if the soundstaging is earpad-dependent. I'm guessing it largely is.

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I don't believe that it has much to do with the pads. I think it's mostly due to the huge angled opening between the  cup and the housing for it. 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

I don't believe that it has much to do with the pads. I think it's mostly due to the huge angled opening between the  cup and the housing for it. 

 

Oh that opening is part of the cup, not the earpads? Well either way that's what I mean.

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Talking about soundstage, an audiophile friend here in Brazil had an AKG K1k. He said everytime someone heard it they looked back or at the surroundings to check if there were any speakers arround because the sounds seemed to come from outside. I'm really curious to hear it myself. Unfortunately he traded it for a GSX, so my chances of putting my hands(or ears) on this audiophile relic someday are even lower.

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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post
 

Talking about soundstage, an audiophile friend here in Brazil had an AKG K1k. He said everytime someone heard it they looked back or at the surroundings to check if there were any speakers arround because the sounds seemed to come from outside. I'm really curious to hear it myself. Unfortunately he traded it for a GSX, so my chances of putting my hands(or ears) on this audiophile relic someday are even lower.

 

I think to alot of sound stage has to do with recordings as well... what pissed me off is the first time I plugged into some aimbent techno with my Sound Magic Hp 100, good sound stage but not open. That said there was ONE song with a LOT of noise behind you, like a knocking almost and EVERY time I'd swing my head back like a moron looking for that noise... then I noticed it was kinda rythmic... silly me lol 

 
still the Audio GD has shipped! Waiting for tracking :D 
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

 

I think to alot of sound stage has to do with recordings as well... what pissed me off is the first time I plugged into some aimbent techno with my Sound Magic Hp 100, good sound stage but not open. That said there was ONE song with a LOT of noise behind you, like a knocking almost and EVERY time I'd swing my head back like a moron looking for that noise... then I noticed it was kinda rythmic... silly me lol 

 
still the Audio GD has shipped! Waiting for tracking :D 

Sure, the recording has its share too, but the way the drivers are angled also influences it.

The AKG K1k are physically like two speakers hold by a headband, and you can adjust the position of the drivers. That's probably the reason why it has a realistic, speaker-like soundstage (according to people who owned/heard it)

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I know I would have never guessed the M50 to have angled drivers, because its soundstage is that of a bird-cage.

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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post
 

Sure, the recording has its share too, but the way the drivers are angled also influences it.

The AKG K1k are physically like two speakers hold by a headband, and you can adjust the position of the drivers. That's probably the reason why it has a realistic, speaker-like soundstage (according to people who owned/heard it)

 

 

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I know I would have never guessed the M50 to have angled drivers, because its soundstage is that of a bird-cage.

 

uhh M50? I'm talking Sound Magic HP 100... although I was using angled w1000x stock pads but did I miss something? 

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I wasn't really commenting on the Sound Magic HP100.

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Hey, is Uber-upgrade (for Bifrost) beneficial for HE-400? If it allegedly extends highs, I am afraid it may not be so good for already high highs in HE-400...

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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

I wasn't really commenting on the Sound Magic HP100.

Ahh... I didn't see the M50 mentioned either q.Q'

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Ah, but you did see angled drivers mentioned.  z.Z'

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

who cares about looks lol 
and I hear you there... 

I actually think the Audio-GD equipment is very good looking. I really like that it's so utilitarian, and a great name and font. I suppose the Compass is not the best looking but most designs are well balanced. Emotiva, in my opinion, is unattractive equipment.
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I actually think the Audio-GD equipment is very good looking. I really like that it's so utilitarian, and a great name and font. I suppose the Compass is not the best looking but most designs are well balanced. Emotiva, in my opinion, is unattractive equipment.

A-GD = 80's flashback but the sound and price more than make up for its retro styling.

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