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post #12946 of 20391
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

 

Ahh then mine is REV 2 as the drivers are white 

 

FYI Rev. 4 is the same as Rev. 2, as in they returned to the second driver/tuning after the Rev. 3 fiasco.  Driver housing color is slightly more transparent white if I read correctly, but they are essentially the same.

post #12947 of 20391
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Originally Posted by modulor View Post
 

 

FYI Rev. 4 is the same as Rev. 2, as in they returned to the second driver/tuning after the Rev. 3 fiasco.  Driver housing color is slightly more transparent white if I read correctly, but they are essentially the same.

Presumably :rolleyes:

 

I don't think anyone's actually A/B tested a pre-yellow driver and a post-yellow driver yet, so we only have the word from Hifiman, as well as some...not awfully reliable impressions (including mine).

post #12948 of 20391
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Originally Posted by justin w. View Post

I have 1 pair of he4 left. I dont know if hifiman still has more available at least to dealers. Id have to ask

 

Hi Justin, since you chimed in here, was wondering if you could clarify something for me:  I'm between getting the HE-400 and HE-500 and am wondering if the HE-500 still comes with the black travel/carrying zipper case it was shipping with for quite some time or if they've changed it back to the 'storage box' now?  I would want one of those add-on carrying cases if I were going to order the HE-400 (which I know it's not included with), so trying to take all the implied costs of that model into account.

 

Thanks

post #12949 of 20391

either way I just hope it meets my expectations,

post #12950 of 20391

How much of a difference in quantity / impact of bass and lower mids is there between the HE400 and HE500?

 

5%... 25%....?

post #12951 of 20391
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

How much of a difference in quantity / impact of bass and lower mids is there between the HE400 and HE500?

 

5%... 25%....?

 

Around the same overall volume, HE400 has more bass, period. It's just the nature of its FR relative to its big bro. HE500 extends a lot better in the sub-bass region, but that does not contribute to bass quantity or impact at all.

post #12952 of 20391
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

 

Around the same overall volume, HE400 has more bass, period. It's just the nature of its FR relative to its big bro. HE500 extends a lot better in the sub-bass region, but that does not contribute to bass quantity or impact at all.

 

Thanks, If you were to EQ the bass can they produce about the same amount?

post #12953 of 20391

HE-400's also measure much better distortion wise in the bass department. Worse in the midrange though.

post #12954 of 20391
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

 

Around the same overall volume, HE400 has more bass, period. It's just the nature of its FR relative to its big bro. HE500 extends a lot better in the sub-bass region, but that does not contribute to bass quantity or impact at all.

 

This. And then the he4 is better than the 400. The only bass that I've heard that I enjoyed more than the he4 was the lcd2. 

post #12955 of 20391
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

Thanks, If you were to EQ the bass can they produce about the same amount?

 

Yeah easily. HE500's bass sounds "fatter" than HE400's though, partly due to the better extension, partly due to mechanical differences in their diaphragms.

post #12956 of 20391

I enjoyed the HE-400 more than the LCD2 bass sometimes when I compared the two.  I just liked the fatter nature of the HE-400 bass-- which sounds weird because the HE-400's bass is super tight and controlled.  The LCD2's bass though, is very, very, very tight and controlled.  I'm sure if I gave the LCD2 source components asides from the Magni/Modi that its bass would sound even deeper and hit even harder, because the Magni/Modi aren't exactly hard hitting bassy components.

post #12957 of 20391
No headphone has touched that LCD2 bass for me. I like the D7000's very special bass that is all it's own, but in terms of EVERYTHING, the LCD2 bass is without peer for me. I wish it didn't weigh a ton...
post #12958 of 20391

The HE-400 is the best bass I have heard but it is almost too controlled, the bass is excellent but a bit of extra "fatness" on the HE-500 might be a good thing.... Will have to try them and see when I have some money, think I will be sticking with HIFIMAN because they seem like the best value headphones currently on the market.


Edited by nicholars - 9/19/13 at 9:49am
post #12959 of 20391
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

No headphone has touched that LCD2 bass for me. I like the D7000's very special bass that is all it's own, but in terms of EVERYTHING, the LCD2 bass is without peer for me. I wish it didn't weigh a ton...

 

The lcd2 if about 100 grams lighter would be end game for me. 

post #12960 of 20391
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

The lcd2 if about 100 grams lighter would be end game for me. 

 

Just I dunno hang it off a coiled cable or strong elastic cord off the ceiling, this way all the weight is counteracted :) 

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