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post #12931 of 19964
Probably Matt or myself. biggrin.gif

I think I was telling him about the HE4 before he got it himself, IIRC. I'm one of the few original HE4 owners. tongue.gif

It saddens me to see how overlooked it was... damn HE6... frown.gif
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 9/19/13 at 3:14am
post #12932 of 19964
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Originally Posted by justin w. View Post

I have 1 pair of he4 left. I dont know if hifiman still has more available at least to dealers. Id have to ask

oh nice... n just after i paid for a used rev 3 he 400 with j moneys... oh well xD
post #12933 of 19964
Wow, so I looked back at an old Headfonia review of the HE4... and they said its easy to drive, and lacks punch... gee, when your pairing it up to non-specialized amps, the HE4 WILL sound thin and lacking.

That's the kind of review that killed kff any chance for the HE4 to be truly put through it's paces. HELL, EVEN HIFIMAN SUGGESTED IT BE USED WITH AN AMP WITH AT LEAST 2 WATTS. WTF.
post #12934 of 19964
The he400 are a great headphone...my impressions have changed little from when I got them.

Although ive never heard the HE4, Someone who merely has the 400 is not missing out on some sort of nirvana, at least I can easily sleep with that in my mind.

It's the darned HE6 that makes me curious now...
post #12935 of 19964
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Probably Matt or myself. biggrin.gif

I think I was telling him about the HE4 before he got it himself, IIRC. I'm one of the few original HE4 owners. tongue.gif

It saddens me to see how overlooked it was... damn HE6... frown.gif

 

MLE, I have been remiss in thanking you but you know what my wallet says right ?

:wink:

post #12936 of 19964
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Wow, so I looked back at an old Headfonia review of the HE4... and they said its easy to drive, and lacks punch... gee, when your pairing it up to non-specialized amps, the HE4 WILL sound thin and lacking.

That's the kind of review that killed kff any chance for the HE4 to be truly put through it's paces. HELL, EVEN HIFIMAN SUGGESTED IT BE USED WITH AN AMP WITH AT LEAST 2 WATTS. WTF.

 

Hey, thanks for posting this. This was the Headfonia review of 2011 right ? I was bummed out after reading this but then I went back to Head Direct's writeup and consoled myself with the thought that I have the Mjolinir.

post #12937 of 19964
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post
 

 

I'm very excited to hear your thoughts on HE-400 vs HE-4. Things like how the bass compare, does the HE-4 reach the HE-400s level (texture, thump, extension)? The midrange openness, treble smoothness, soundstage, etc.. And if the HE-4 is able to dethrone the HE-400 at being the king of EDM. 

 
Imo it looks better in terms of color finish, it's 100g lighter, and if it exceeds the HE-400 at most of the above mentioned points, then I see no reason why I should stick with the HE-400... ok maybe amping requirements :/

 

Anybody have any idea how long Justin will have them for sale? 

 

Beav,

 
looking forward to it as well. I will post my thoughts for sure.
post #12938 of 19964
Lol. wink.gif

I can't wait to see your impressions.

Though I don't experience the same body of bass in the HE-4 as Matt has stated in comparison to the HE400 (I feel the HE400 has more body and presence in bass personally), the HE-4 has everything else. Better air, soundstage, clarity, and precision/speed. The mids are just sligthly recessed (which is why I say it's like the DT880 in that it's slightly v-shaped), but overall, it's well balanced, energetic, and just pleasing all around. I think if I had the tastes back then as I do now, I may have been even more enamored by the HE-4.

People need to understand that the HE-4 is not like the HE-500. It's quite different. The HE500 specializes in mids and warmth. The HE-4 is more like the HE-6 in that it's clean, fast, and energetic (FWIH of the HE-6's impressions).

So it's a different take, and may not exactly be for those who are so tuned to the HE500's sound.
post #12939 of 19964

:D getting excited about my Rev 3 HE 400 ^^, btw q.q what are teh measure ments of the REV 3 >.> 

 

in addition I REALLY hope it sounds better than my DT 990 with edm [it should with all that SUB bass] 

post #12940 of 19964
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post

If anyone hears of a possible trade, he4 for he400 let me know please! So interested now, ill need to buy new pads for mine prior due to ne straight butchering both mine making me fugly velour top jergpads, they soubd great though! Will the jergpads work on the he4? I remember someone saying the pads or rings are different

 

The jergpads by Modular offer the same improvements for the he4 as they do for the 400. 

post #12941 of 19964
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

:D getting excited about my Rev 3 HE 400 ^^, btw q.q what are teh measure ments of the REV 3 >.>

 

in addition I REALLY hope it sounds better than my DT 990 with edm [it should with all that SUB bass]

 

That seller misquoted the Revision. Rev 3 is the revision that was recalled (black driver) because of treble issues. I PM'd the user in that FS thread and told him to get rid of the "Rev 3" tag he was putting on his Rev 4 white drivers. There should be no Rev 3's floating around from what I understand.

post #12942 of 19964
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Lol. wink.gif

I can't wait to see your impressions.

Though I don't experience the same body of bass in the HE-4 as Matt has stated in comparison to the HE400 (I feel the HE400 has more body and presence in bass personally), the HE-4 has everything else. Better air, soundstage, clarity, and precision/speed. The mids are just sligthly recessed (which is why I say it's like the DT880 in that it's slightly v-shaped), but overall, it's well balanced, energetic, and just pleasing all around. I think if I had the tastes back then as I do now, I may have been even more enamored by the HE-4.

People need to understand that the HE-4 is not like the HE-500. It's quite different. The HE500 specializes in mids and warmth. The HE-4 is more like the HE-6 in that it's clean, fast, and energetic (FWIH of the HE-6's impressions).

So it's a different take, and may not exactly be for those who are so tuned to the HE500's sound.

 

This description of the he4 is right on target. It seems that with the right amp, mini he6 is a fair description. It doesn't have the spike in the treble that the he400 does but has consistently more treble energy across the upper end. For some, that will be wonderful. There are a few moments that you have with hp's and gear. For me, I will never forget the bass on the he4 with the sx1280 amp. Pretty sure that I wet my pants. :o

post #12943 of 19964

The original HE-400 had the black drivers and was recalled because of driver failure problems.  Rev.2 had white drivers and was just fine, Rev. 3 had sandy-colored drivers and was recalled for treble problems.  Rev. 4 has clear drivers and is fine.

post #12944 of 19964
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

The original HE-400 had the black drivers and was recalled because of driver failure problems.  Rev.2 had white drivers and was just fine, Rev. 3 had sandy-colored drivers and was recalled for treble problems.  Rev. 4 has clear drivers and is fine.

 

Whoops. Got brown and black mixed up.

post #12945 of 19964
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

The original HE-400 had the black drivers and was recalled because of driver failure problems.  Rev.2 had white drivers and was just fine, Rev. 3 had sandy-colored drivers and was recalled for treble problems.  Rev. 4 has clear drivers and is fine.

 

Ahh then mine is REV 2 as the drivers are white 

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