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post #12766 of 18683

No my whole reasoning was I liked the LCD2 but thought it might as well have been a closed headphone.  A closed headphone would also give slower decaying bass and people have said the closed LCD is a bit brighter sounding up top.

 

It's definitely worth a try, especially after some concrete first impressions once a production unit comes about.

post #12767 of 18683
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If it wasn't such a problem with the Mad Dogs then the Alpha Dogs wouldn't be promising on delivering a more spacious sound. 

I certainly am entitled to my opinion.  Mad Dogs sound congested-- but so do 99% of closed headphones out there.

a modded w1000x n Modded... dude u can mod closed cans to significantly help with layering. My W1000x n sound magic sound nice with new pads n some extra dampening. Both got more focused n less congested sound stage. but they lack the air of n open back
post #12768 of 18683

Does seem a bit pointless to me having a closed LCD2 because I thought the point of ortho's is that you can have the good bass of a closed headphone while at the same time having an open headphone, every open dynamic headphone has lacking bass. Audeze must be doing it for a reason though.

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I think the Future Sonics Atrio MG7's had the kind of bass and timbre that EDM heads could really appreciate.

They used to have them half price on their homepage and they appear to be discontinued...but some sellers still have them on ebay.

Think their only negative was soundstage, but their lower end was supposed to be great much like HE-400's which the RE vs HE poster was maybe looking for...the kind of bass texture/depth HE-400's have (?) Think the MG7's were teeth rattlers...or "ball-gripping bass" to borrow from Jerg.:eek:

 

They had amazing bass but pretty much everything else was lacking, especially the soundstage.

post #12770 of 18683
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Does seem a bit pointless to me having a closed LCD2 because I thought the point of ortho's is that you can have the good bass of a closed headphone while at the same time having an open headphone, every open dynamic headphone has lacking bass. Audeze must be doing it for a reason though.

not every the DT 990 as a heck of alot of bass for the open can. I'm finding it quite a challenge to find a replacement or upgrade for it
post #12771 of 18683
Fidelio X1 as well. Granted, closed headphone will always be better in bass presence, but in terms of overall presentation, I'd takee a bassy, open headphone over closed headphones any day of the week.


For balanced bass yet still full, the K702 Anniversary, as well as the K712 Pro are also both open with plenty of bass.
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Fidelio X1 as well. Granted, closed headphone will always be better in bass presence, but in terms of overall presentation, I'd takee a bassy, open headphone over closed headphones any day of the week.


For balanced bass yet still full, the K702 Anniversary, as well as the K712 Pro are also both open with plenty of bass.

but for the price of the K 702 anniversary I could just get a t 90
post #12773 of 18683
Lol T90. A lot of hate for that headphone. The AKGs could both be bought for under $400. Same can't be said about T90.
post #12774 of 18683

Yes but I have tried the X1, DT990, HD650 etc. all bassy open headphones, but they still have nowhere near to bass of the HE400, especially below <60hz...

post #12775 of 18683
Sub bass, yeah, open dynamics can't move that much air.
post #12776 of 18683

that right,would potentially make discomfort a nonissue as all the weight would be more evenly distributed.thanks

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post #12777 of 18683

Hey,

I'm really looking forward in purchasing a HE-400.

I used to listen to Beyer's DT990 Pro 250 Ohm for almost 5 years and I just want a slightly different and better headphone.

Since I'm lving in a small town in Germany, there is no way to try things out.

The reason i post here is, that I need a DAC/Amp and I'm listening my music most of the time in front of my pc.

What do you guys consider to be the best option?

 

-Asus Xonar Essence STX / Phoebus

-Fiio E09k + Fiio E07k

-Yulong U100

-Asus Xonar DGX + Matrix M Stage

 

I'm willing to spend 150-200€.

The easiest way for me would be the Fiio option, since I can get them very easily in the next big town.

Thanks for reading,

Schroeder

 

p.s.:

pls forgive me my bad English \ ^--^ /

post #12778 of 18683
Thread Starter 

Welcome to headfi!! The he400 is a great hp for the price point. Part of the beauty is that it doesn't need much to amp it. What are you using now? 

 

On a budget I'd consider the fiio e17. You'll get an amp/dac/portable all in one. The he400 does have some modest ability to scale with better amps and gear but it will be a case of diminishing returns. 

 

Alternately, look into the Audiogd products. They have a few all in one amp/dac combos that pair well and are reasonable prices. Lastly, I'm a big fan of vintage 70's receivers to power orthodynamic hp's. They can be had for often less than $50 and can give you amazing results. Pioneer and Sansui are names to look for if you interested in going down this road.

 

gL!!

 

Matt

post #12779 of 18683
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Lol T90. A lot of hate for that headphone. The AKGs could both be bought for under $400. Same can't be said about T90.

 

I have a tolerance for a LOT of treble... so long as the treble is smooth I can handle having it more IN MY FACE 

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Yes but I have tried the X1, DT990, HD650 etc. all bassy open headphones, but they still have nowhere near to bass of the HE400, especially below <60hz...

Exactly Open Air SUb bass is what I'm lookin for 

post #12780 of 18683
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

I have a tolerance for a LOT of treble... so long as the treble is smooth I can handle having it more IN MY FACE 
Exactly Open Air SUb bass is what I'm lookin for 

Open air and sub bass is pretty much a planar thing. HE-400 and LCD2 come to mind.
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