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post #12631 of 17046

Depends if the measurements were took at the eardrum or not.

post #12632 of 17046

I for one like it when my entire ears are vibrating :L3000:

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Originally Posted by mogulmaster View Post
 

Hey Jerg, or anybody that has both he-400 and he-500, why have you kept the 400? I'm considering trading my 400s for the 500s, but they cost almost double... not sure if it's worth it


Whether or not it's worth it depends on you.

HE-400 is a great headphone, HE-500 is also a great headphone. I own the HE-400 and have listened a good bit to the HE-500. I like the bass on the HE-400, but overall I think the HE-500 slightly bests the HE-400 in every other category.

Whether the HE-500 is worth twice as much as the HE-400 depends on you. For me, it's a resounding no, but that isn't the case for everyone.

I'm actually very happy in the mid tier headphone game. I'm not willing to go beyond the mid level price range of a headphone like the HE-400 yet because the increase in price stops justifying the smaller and smaller step increases in quality.

I find that I can still enjoy the music and have fun without starting to analyze the sound in this price range. For me, the more expensive the headphone gets the less I seem to sit back and relax with the music.
 

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Originally Posted by Mani ATH 87 View Post


Whether or not it's worth it depends on you.


HE-400 is a great headphone, HE-500 is also a great headphone. I own the HE-400 and have listened a good bit to the HE-500. I like the bass on the HE-400, but overall I think the HE-500 slightly bests the HE-400 in every other category.


Whether the HE-500 is worth twice as much as the HE-400 depends on you. For me, it's a resounding no, but that isn't the case for everyone.


I'm actually very happy in the mid tier headphone game. I'm not willing to go beyond the mid level price range of a headphone like the HE-400 yet because the increase in price stops justifying the smaller and smaller step increases in quality.


I find that I can still enjoy the music and have fun without starting to analyze the sound in this price range. For me, the more expensive the headphone gets the less I seem to sit back and relax with the music.

 
I agree. After listening to the LCD-2 for a while, I realized that mid-fi is really good and that I'd rather own several mid-fi cans than one flagship. I came to sort of the same conclusion with computer parts, I typically buy a step or two below flagship because that last bit of power has such a steep premium.

All that said, I'd really like to hear the TH600/900 biggrin.gif
post #12635 of 17046

Funny, I think in a similar way but id really love to hear some of the flagships out there (LCD-3, HD800 and Stax 009).

 

However, im quite happy with the HE-400 and Beyerdynamic 660 for classic.

 

I gotta say that on the IEM department I went with the shure SE215, and while they are not as good as the HE-400, their isolation and comfort are enought to leave my HE-400 at home (+the sound quality aint bad at all).

 

I do feel however like Im kinda dropping the need to get better gear feeling. Not sure why but I no longer want to have so many good headphones.

 

Still missing a DAC thou, and it might have something to do with the fact that im broke :D.

post #12636 of 17046

Listening to my new HE-400's now out of the Audio gd 15.32. Amazing is all I can say, the bass is soo nice. Never have I heard as many bass details as this before in my rock. I have no problem with the treble on these. I've brought and have got the velour pads on right now. Velour sounds better to my ears, at least it sounds more balanced. Enjoying the sheer speed, imaging and detail of these for sure. Metal never sounded so quick, but then again I'm coming from a lower Sennheiser which are a bit slow I guess. 

 

I do have some comfort issues with the weight, but I mostly listen while in a large office chair so I've taken to putting my hear on a pillow while I listen. 

 

My parents think I'm insane for spending what I did, but I at least paid for it from money I got at P/T work. 

 

I would have found out about the quality available if it were not for a headfier (well a headfiers brother) I met locally here :regular_smile :

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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

Imaging and headphones don't go together.

 

What?

 

Anyway you get my point, tonality is not 75% important because if you have bad sound quality but good tonality you cannot change that whereas if you have good sound quality you can change the tonality with EQ, a good example would be the HE-400 with treble EQ. For example I prefer the tonality of the HD600/HD650 to the HE-400, but they do not have the ability of the HE-400 with speed, detail, sub bass etc. You can EQ tonality but you cannot EQ things like sub bass, details, imaging, soundstage, speed etc.

 

Lets agree at 50/50 ;)


Edited by nicholars - 9/12/13 at 3:16am
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Originally Posted by Lady Stoneheart View Post
 

Listening to my new HE-400's now out of the Audio gd 15.32. Amazing is all I can say, the bass is soo nice. Never have I heard as many bass details as this before in my rock. I have no problem with the treble on these. I've brought and have got the velour pads on right now. Velour sounds better to my ears, at least it sounds more balanced. Enjoying the sheer speed, imaging and detail of these for sure. Metal never sounded so quick, but then again I'm coming from a lower Sennheiser which are a bit slow I guess. 

 

 

Going from sennheiser to HE400 the speed difference is almost funny.

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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

What?

 

Anyway you get my point, tonality is not 75% important because if you have bad sound quality but good tonality you cannot change that whereas if you have good sound quality you can change the tonality with EQ, a good example would be the HE-400 with treble EQ. For example I prefer the tonality of the HD600/HD650 to the HE-400, but they do not have the ability of the HE-400 with speed, detail, sub bass etc. You can EQ tonality but you cannot EQ things like sub bass, details, imaging, soundstage, speed etc.

 

Lets agree at 50/50 ;)

 

 

If I liked the HD650's tonality over the HE-400 I would have kept the HD650 when I listened to it.  Even though I'm a big proponent of EQ-- especially on the HE-400, I'm only in support of minimal use of it-- nothing drastic.  The big factor in liking the HE-400 so much over the HD650 was its bass, but I'd categorize that as part of its tonality.  


Edited by TMRaven - 9/12/13 at 5:30am
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Yes the bass on the HE400 and the speed are the reasons I do not use the HD650. The HD650 on electronic music makes me want to go to sleep whereas the HE400 sound exciting and the bass is about 10x better. The treble on the HE400 has actually grown on me a bit because when I use darker headphones such as my Shure se215 they sound boring and lacking detail compared to the HE400. If a perfect pair of headphones existed I would not use EQ either, the HE400 seem to like EQ though.


Edited by nicholars - 9/12/13 at 5:59am
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Kinda new to the world of headphones.. My he-400's arrived a few days ago and to be honest they didnt sound as good as I hoped compared to my previous pair of $100 sennheisers. dont get me wrong they do sound alot better but i thought it would be alot more noticeable..

 

Turns out the he-400's needs a good amp to drive them and i want a portable one to use with my iPod Classic, So the FiiO e11 is in my price range but i might want to spend the extra money and get the FiiO e17. Im not sure what amp to get its so confusing, what portable amp do you guys use with your he-400?

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Originally Posted by exDiddy View Post

Kinda new to the world of headphones.. My he-400's arrived a few days ago and to be honest they didnt sound as good as I hoped compared to my previous pair of $100 sennheisers. dont get me wrong they do sound alot better but i thought it would be alot more noticeable..

Turns out the he-400's needs a good amp to drive them and i want a portable one to use with my iPod Classic, So the FiiO e11 is in my price range but i might want to spend the extra money and get the FiiO e17. Im not sure what amp to get its so confusing, what portable amp do you guys use with your he-400?
E17 is Better. Your choice of portable amps depends on the price. The Ray Samuels line of portable amps, the ALO Rx line etc etc...
post #12643 of 17046

E17 is a great portable DAC/amp but the E12 is a better amp. If you want a DAC, go for the E17.

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I also like the ability to boost / reduce both bass and treble on the E17
post #12645 of 17046
Thread Starter 

The e17 is a good pairing for the he400. 

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