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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

Do the HE500 have as much bass as the HE400?

 

The general consensus says: no. The HE-400 apparently has more bass and more punch.

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General consensus is that the HE-400 has tighter more tactile bass with a little more punch while the HE-500's bass is 'bloomy'... whatever that means.

post #12618 of 17921

Hmmm the smoother treble and better upper mids sounds good....

 

But I would NOT like to lose the amazing bass and lower mids on the HE400.

 

I want to see a HE450 with the same bass and lower mids and slightly more upper mids with better treble.

 

But I guess this would be pricing themselves out of the market as it would possibly be better than the higher models.

post #12619 of 17921

It seems that the HE-400 only bests the HE-500 in the bass department because of its coloration. The bass is more prominent due to the upper mid recession (which also makes the treble more prominent). I could be wrong though...

post #12620 of 17921

Placed my order on a used-like new RE-400 on amazon for 89 dollars, no tax free shipping.  Will write a very short comparison to the HE-400.  My current Skullcandy Holua pisses me off and Apple buds don't provide isolation.

 

I know it's a weird comparison but they two are somewhat relatable.  I think it'll be interesting how Hifiman will translate their house sound from entry full-size planar to entry IEM.

post #12621 of 17921
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Placed my order on a used-like new RE-400 on amazon for 89 dollars, no tax free shipping.  Will write a very short comparison to the HE-400.  My current Skullcandy Holua pisses me off and Apple buds don't provide isolation.

I know it's a weird comparison but they two are somewhat relatable.  I think it'll be interesting how Hifiman will translate their house sound from entry full-size planar to entry IEM.

I own the he and re 400. They are very very different. The re has more forward mids, a lot less bass, and somewhat recessed treble in comparison to the he400. But, for on the go, at the price they're at, they an amazing compliment to the he400. it takes a while when switching between the two to get used to the sound of each, but I really enjoy the re400. Do yourself a favor and buy the comply ts400 tips or make some diy ones from earplugs. I've used both and they are each better in isolation and sound than the stock tips, for me at least.
post #12622 of 17921

Those RE-400s look pretty good, and good price too. Anybody know if Head-direct ship outside the US?

post #12623 of 17921
Thread Starter 

The re400 is wicked good at it's price point. A real competitor to the vsonic gr07mkii which is $50 more than the re400. Both worlds different from the he400.

post #12624 of 17921

If it's anything closer to a mad-dog sounding headphone I'll be ok with that.

post #12625 of 17921
Thread Starter 

There are some similarities there. 

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IEMs are just too different than full-sized to properly compare (apart from things like tonality) but I agree with Matt in that the RE-400 has a seriously good price to performance ratio.  They require you get a proper seal, so make sure you've got the best suited tips for your ear...fortunately they now ship with a lot of choices.  For the best bass response and isolation you'll probably want to use the supplied Comply tips or as hemi stated above some DIY tips made from earplugs.  It's pretty simple to do, just cut 1/3-1/2 off the tip of the earplug, make a hole in the center and use some toothpicks to widen the hole enough to slide it over the nozzle.  Still, they sound really great with silicone tips which is what I typically use.

post #12627 of 17921

I'd argue that tonality is at least 2/3 of what you're ultimately looking for when finding your perfect headphone.  Any two things that make sound are comparable. 

post #12628 of 17921

You want good sound quality and all the other parts such as imaging etc. and then if you need to change the tonality you can EQ

post #12629 of 17921

Imaging and headphones don't go together.

post #12630 of 17921
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

I'd argue that tonality is at least 2/3 of what you're ultimately looking for when finding your perfect headphone.  Any two things that make sound are comparable. 

 

True on tonality and the listener, I have to agree with you there on that being the most important thing to look for overall.  Sorry to go off topic but I was just considering that with full sized headphones the sound is hitting the whole ear as it enters the ear canal, whereas with an IEM sound just goes straight in the ear canal, so overall sound presentation is different.  If you had a full-sized and an IEM with the same FR, wouldn't they still sound a bit different from one another because of that?

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