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post #12616 of 20483
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Placed my order on a used-like new RE-400 on amazon for 89 dollars, no tax free shipping.  Will write a very short comparison to the HE-400.  My current Skullcandy Holua pisses me off and Apple buds don't provide isolation.

I know it's a weird comparison but they two are somewhat relatable.  I think it'll be interesting how Hifiman will translate their house sound from entry full-size planar to entry IEM.

I own the he and re 400. They are very very different. The re has more forward mids, a lot less bass, and somewhat recessed treble in comparison to the he400. But, for on the go, at the price they're at, they an amazing compliment to the he400. it takes a while when switching between the two to get used to the sound of each, but I really enjoy the re400. Do yourself a favor and buy the comply ts400 tips or make some diy ones from earplugs. I've used both and they are each better in isolation and sound than the stock tips, for me at least.
post #12617 of 20483

Those RE-400s look pretty good, and good price too. Anybody know if Head-direct ship outside the US?

post #12618 of 20483
Thread Starter 

The re400 is wicked good at it's price point. A real competitor to the vsonic gr07mkii which is $50 more than the re400. Both worlds different from the he400.

post #12619 of 20483

If it's anything closer to a mad-dog sounding headphone I'll be ok with that.

post #12620 of 20483
Thread Starter 

There are some similarities there. 

post #12621 of 20483

IEMs are just too different than full-sized to properly compare (apart from things like tonality) but I agree with Matt in that the RE-400 has a seriously good price to performance ratio.  They require you get a proper seal, so make sure you've got the best suited tips for your ear...fortunately they now ship with a lot of choices.  For the best bass response and isolation you'll probably want to use the supplied Comply tips or as hemi stated above some DIY tips made from earplugs.  It's pretty simple to do, just cut 1/3-1/2 off the tip of the earplug, make a hole in the center and use some toothpicks to widen the hole enough to slide it over the nozzle.  Still, they sound really great with silicone tips which is what I typically use.

post #12622 of 20483

I'd argue that tonality is at least 2/3 of what you're ultimately looking for when finding your perfect headphone.  Any two things that make sound are comparable. 

post #12623 of 20483

You want good sound quality and all the other parts such as imaging etc. and then if you need to change the tonality you can EQ

post #12624 of 20483

Imaging and headphones don't go together.

post #12625 of 20483
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

I'd argue that tonality is at least 2/3 of what you're ultimately looking for when finding your perfect headphone.  Any two things that make sound are comparable. 

 

True on tonality and the listener, I have to agree with you there on that being the most important thing to look for overall.  Sorry to go off topic but I was just considering that with full sized headphones the sound is hitting the whole ear as it enters the ear canal, whereas with an IEM sound just goes straight in the ear canal, so overall sound presentation is different.  If you had a full-sized and an IEM with the same FR, wouldn't they still sound a bit different from one another because of that?

post #12626 of 20483

Depends if the measurements were took at the eardrum or not.

post #12627 of 20483

I for one like it when my entire ears are vibrating :L3000:

post #12628 of 20483
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Originally Posted by mogulmaster View Post
 

Hey Jerg, or anybody that has both he-400 and he-500, why have you kept the 400? I'm considering trading my 400s for the 500s, but they cost almost double... not sure if it's worth it


Whether or not it's worth it depends on you.

HE-400 is a great headphone, HE-500 is also a great headphone. I own the HE-400 and have listened a good bit to the HE-500. I like the bass on the HE-400, but overall I think the HE-500 slightly bests the HE-400 in every other category.

Whether the HE-500 is worth twice as much as the HE-400 depends on you. For me, it's a resounding no, but that isn't the case for everyone.

I'm actually very happy in the mid tier headphone game. I'm not willing to go beyond the mid level price range of a headphone like the HE-400 yet because the increase in price stops justifying the smaller and smaller step increases in quality.

I find that I can still enjoy the music and have fun without starting to analyze the sound in this price range. For me, the more expensive the headphone gets the less I seem to sit back and relax with the music.
 

post #12629 of 20483
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Originally Posted by Mani ATH 87 View Post


Whether or not it's worth it depends on you.


HE-400 is a great headphone, HE-500 is also a great headphone. I own the HE-400 and have listened a good bit to the HE-500. I like the bass on the HE-400, but overall I think the HE-500 slightly bests the HE-400 in every other category.


Whether the HE-500 is worth twice as much as the HE-400 depends on you. For me, it's a resounding no, but that isn't the case for everyone.


I'm actually very happy in the mid tier headphone game. I'm not willing to go beyond the mid level price range of a headphone like the HE-400 yet because the increase in price stops justifying the smaller and smaller step increases in quality.


I find that I can still enjoy the music and have fun without starting to analyze the sound in this price range. For me, the more expensive the headphone gets the less I seem to sit back and relax with the music.

 
I agree. After listening to the LCD-2 for a while, I realized that mid-fi is really good and that I'd rather own several mid-fi cans than one flagship. I came to sort of the same conclusion with computer parts, I typically buy a step or two below flagship because that last bit of power has such a steep premium.

All that said, I'd really like to hear the TH600/900 biggrin.gif
post #12630 of 20483

Funny, I think in a similar way but id really love to hear some of the flagships out there (LCD-3, HD800 and Stax 009).

 

However, im quite happy with the HE-400 and Beyerdynamic 660 for classic.

 

I gotta say that on the IEM department I went with the shure SE215, and while they are not as good as the HE-400, their isolation and comfort are enought to leave my HE-400 at home (+the sound quality aint bad at all).

 

I do feel however like Im kinda dropping the need to get better gear feeling. Not sure why but I no longer want to have so many good headphones.

 

Still missing a DAC thou, and it might have something to do with the fact that im broke :D.

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