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post #12466 of 17927

Thanks I might try it, is it better than the 31 band thing I am using?

post #12467 of 17927

I would think so yes. You get a smoother curve.

post #12468 of 17927

just arrived today, woke up at 8:30 AM on 5 hours sleep just to make sure i didn't have to wait till Tuesday (it's from usps and i picked it up)

 

first impressions were "hard to hear the hype" but i realized i was exhausted and went to bed and woke up. starting to enjoy these now.

 

I'm using velour pads,

 

 

but also like to mention these are much heavier than I expected, but I'm getting used to them after 3 hours now.

post #12469 of 17927
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Originally Posted by kcazbarach View Post

just arrived today, woke up at 8:30 AM on 5 hours sleep just to make sure i didn't have to wait till Tuesday (it's from usps and i picked it up)

 

first impressions were "hard to hear the hype" but i realized i was exhausted and went to bed and woke up. starting to enjoy these now.

 

I'm using velour pads,

 

 

but also like to mention these are much heavier than I expected, but I'm getting used to them after 3 hours now.

 

I didn't like them at first either but they get better the more you use them.... Also use EQ and "jergmod" the pads...

post #12470 of 17927
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

 

What do you mean by lack of a curve? Do you mean that the treble should be a smooth curve with 1db steps? I am not an expert in EQ or anything as you can probably see but I mess about with it a lot... I do not usually EQ as much as in that picture but the HE-400 seem to need it / respond well to EQ.

 

I am pretty sensitive to high frequencies and sibilance also I like bass on electronic music etc. so that is why I have quite a dip at the treble and big bass.... The treble dip is equivalent (opposite) to the spike in the treble on the frequency response graph...

 

 

With my post, I was implying that your EQ adjustments were pretty severe.  I can understand being sensitive to certain frequencies, but I've never seen someone EQ a product as much as your image indicated.  If you read through many of the posts by Jerg, TMRaven, etc., you'll understand more about EQ adjustments.  Wide sweeps can sometimes be more damaging that good.  For example, boosting certain frequencies can also cause distortion and the chance for your amp to start clipping.  If that happens, one can suffer damage to their headphones or speakers.  Also, with such major adjustments, it indicates to me that something else might be going on.  Are your recordings of high quality that you listen to?  Which amp?  Also, I wasn't kidding when I asked if you've had a hearing test.  I was serious.

 

There are some frequencies where I have issues with.  It's not the sensitivity of my ears, but the music I listen to.  If it's female vocals, the HE-400 and other headphones can really present an "SsssSsssSssss" with the vocals.  It can be EQd out to a degree, but there are times when it can't be totally eliminated.  Some is the fault of the headphone, while other times it could be the recording or just the issue of how to handle female vocals in general.  

post #12471 of 17927

I do not use as much EQ as in that screenshot... It was just showing how much you can EQ the HE-400 and they still do not distort.....

 

I do use more EQ on the HE400 than I have on any other headphones though because to me they sound better with EQ and do not seem to have any distortion etc....

 

The "treble tizz" and sibilance on the HE-400 is too much for me without a 4-6db reduction, also I find that the bass on the He400 can be increased by about 6-8db with pretty much no distortion, also if you look at the FR graphs of the HE-400 they have a pretty massive spike in the treble, so lowering the treble by 4-6 db is not really that much.

 

 

That is more like what I usually use (depending on music genre).... Still quite a lot of EQ.... But it sounds better to me with the HE400.... I think that the HE-400 sound far too bright / sibilant without any EQ.... I don't think I have any issues with my hearing tbh because the fact that I find the headphones too bright and sibilant I guess would mean I have quite good hearing... If I was partially deaf it would probably not bother me, lol.


Edited by nicholars - 8/31/13 at 5:19pm
post #12472 of 17927

Yes, but it has been proven that the sibilance does not occur across all of the upper frequencies.  Thus, reducing all of the upper frequencies does allow you to reduce some of the sibilance, but then you all also will kill other upper end detail in the HE-400s.

post #12473 of 17927

Ok head-fi, I have 2 questions about these.  I've had my pair a month or so now, and love them. I'd come from the HFI 780 closed phones, primarily a metal fan but also into classical, dark ambient/industrial and some jazz.

 

1.  very rarely but occasionally when wearing the headphones i'll hear a plastic or mechanical click sound like something shifting into place, what am I hearing/what is happening?  It doesn't appear to distort or change sound quality before/during/after.

 

2.  I bought the velour pads, but I actually switched back to my regular pleathers.  The velour pads didn't feel like they had the same contact with my ears and I couldn't EQ them to sound good to me for the life of me(everything sounded very lifeless in comparison).  For the record with my pleathers I have the highs EQ'd down by about -5, some of the upper mids boosted and a very slight boost to bass.  Any thoughts what I didn't like about the velour pads/suggestions for differences in EQing them versus the pleathers if i put them back on?

post #12474 of 17927

1. I had this too, I still get it after 6 months but its getting rarer.
   The first week I heard it every day.
    I'm guessing it's just the grill adjusting because you can reproduce it by gently pressing on the grill. Probably nothing to do with the driver.wink_face.gif

2. I prefer pleather too. I'm too lazy to jergmod, maybe in the future.


Edited by realityhas - 9/1/13 at 7:18am
post #12475 of 17927

Can't say I've ever had that.  I have had popping and clicking coming from the earpads moving around on the frame, but double sided taping those down solves that problem.

post #12476 of 17927

Has anyone noticed cracks in the blue paint on the cups?

 

Mine have a crack, but I am not sure if it is the paint or the plastic cup... If it is just the paint then I am not bothered.

post #12477 of 17927
Thread Starter 

Post a good pic  and let's take a look...

post #12478 of 17927

My cups are slightly cracked at the inside where the holes for the connectors are drilled. Else, flawless.

post #12479 of 17927

Mine is cracked where the metal "U" bit connects to the cups, I will try and post a pic, it does not seem to move about or make any noise but I cannot tell if it is the paint or the actual plastic, I am guessing / hoping it is just the paint.

post #12480 of 17927

T minus 1 day...

 

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