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post #12406 of 17759
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Originally Posted by Mani ATH 87 View Post

What type of EQ are people using with the HE-400?

I've seen a few posts in here, most seem to tone the treble down somewhat, I'm included in that group:
 


I obviously have a preference towards a warmer sound cool.gif

 

 

I have the same thing with same equalizer going on as you do, minus the 1khz dip I think the mids in HE-400 are golden and are best left untouched.

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I even use the same EQ setting with Q701 as I find those too bright as well.


Edited by Bogatyr - 8/24/13 at 8:22pm
post #12407 of 17759
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post

Or the HD580 biggrin.gif

 

 

Yes, but for only a few bucks more, one could opt for the newer HD-600 with the better grills and better drivers.  IMO, people tend to overprice the HD-580.  I've owned the model twice, but just can't put my finger on it as to what I didn't like.  There is one HD-580 that I would consider though if the price was good - that would be the HD-580 "Jubilee" edition.  Though, they are about as rare to find as the Sennheiser Orpheus.

post #12408 of 17759
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

 

Yes, but for only a few bucks more, one could opt for the newer HD-600 with the better grills and better drivers.  IMO, people tend to overprice the HD-580.  I've owned the model twice, but just can't put my finger on it as to what I didn't like.  There is one HD-580 that I would consider though if the price was good - that would be the HD-580 "Jubilee" edition.  Though, they are about as rare to find as the Sennheiser Orpheus.

I got the 580's over the 600's since my buddy owns the 600's and the 580's prove to be a much better painting project wink.gif. They are overpriced though. I managed to get my used pair for $170, but I had to replace the pads which put them at about $240. Oh well, I like the look better than the 600's, very goofy.

post #12409 of 17759

Head-fi'ers that helped me with the tizz issue: I've been using the EQ -6db at 8k, and the pain has subsided completely. Thank you very much. 

 

I'd also like to announce my dear love for the he400. The sound is remarkable. Do you think it would be worth the extra 300 for the 500 since I love this hifiman sound so much? I'm still in the return period for a local store here. I have e09k which seems to have a lot of power. 

post #12410 of 17759

I listen to Electronic/Rock(classic mostly) /folk in that order

post #12411 of 17759

Nevermind y'all, I'm too satisfied with my current setup. I don't want to think about upgrades for some time. It will be the lcd2 or 3 tho, I can promise that. 

post #12412 of 17759
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Originally Posted by mogulmaster View Post

Nevermind y'all, I'm too satisfied with my current setup. I don't want to think about upgrades for some time. It will be the lcd2 or 3 tho, I can promise that. 

 

My mentality as well. I was thinking about upgrading, but why would I when Im so happy with the sound? Like I mentioned before with the right pads and EQ settings these headphones can challenge others double the price.

 

A little off topic story I thought some might find this interesting. I decided to EQ some really generic Nokia earphones that came with my phone seeing as I saw such good results with the EQing my HE-400. I would say I transformed the sound from $5's worth to maybe $50, maybe more. I'm astonished. The nokia headphones suffer from badly recessed mid bass, non-existent sub bass, and really poor treble extension which hampers the higher registers of vocals. Mids are congested too but not much you can do about that. By EQing downwards, I managed to effectively increase the bass by a good 12db and increase the treble at a linear rate between 6-20Khz. As a result music has much more body because of improved mid-bass and vocals benefit immensely because of the lower treble bump I assume. 

 

I'm actually enjoying these so much I haven't even touched my HE-400 yet today. I know totally off topic but maybe this can help convince people who are on the fence about EQing their HE-400, it really works wonders.


Edited by beaver316 - 8/27/13 at 9:21am
post #12413 of 17759

EQ'ing bass into headphones without it might be more difficult than normal because it's usually a physical limitation, but with headphones like HE-400 that can reproduce virtually 20hz-20khz with minimal thd, it's easy to EQ with great results.

post #12414 of 17759
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

EQ'ing bass into headphones without it might be more difficult than normal because it's usually a physical limitation, but with headphones like HE-400 that can reproduce virtually 20hz-20khz with minimal thd, it's easy to EQ with great results.

 

But it should not be impossible if the headphone still produces it. If your amp has enough headway then it's perfectly doable.

post #12415 of 17759

I have a schiit asgard amp and I'm planning to get the HE 400. Should that be ok or should i get another amp?
ps: I currently have a bottlehead crack (which i know isn't a good match with he 400) and the asgard. So if I get a new amp I will have to sell the asgard.
 

post #12416 of 17759

Should be great.

post #12417 of 17759
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

 

My mentality as well. I was thinking about upgrading, but why would I when Im so happy with the sound? Like I mentioned before with the right pads and EQ settings these headphones can challenge others double the price.

 

A little off topic story I thought some might find this interesting. I decided to EQ some really generic Nokia earphones that came with my phone seeing as I saw such good results with the EQing my HE-400. I would say I transformed the sound from $5's worth to maybe $50, maybe more. I'm astonished. The nokia headphones suffer from badly recessed mid bass, non-existent sub bass, and really poor treble extension which hampers the higher registers of vocals. Mids are congested too but not much you can do about that. By EQing downwards, I managed to effectively increase the bass by a good 12db and increase the treble at a linear rate between 6-20Khz. As a result music has much more body because of improved mid-bass and vocals benefit immensely because of the lower treble bump I assume. 

 

I'm actually enjoying these so much I haven't even touched my HE-400 yet today. I know totally off topic but maybe this can help convince people who are on the fence about EQing their HE-400, it really works wonders.


Interesting story Beaver. I almost always EQ every headphone I own/use, tailoring sound to your own tastes with those small adjustments always makes music more enjoyable.

post #12418 of 17759

I have to say that I've never really been someone who believed in the whole "burn in" time with headphones. After having the HE-400 now for about 2 weeks I have to say that to my ears I can hear a clear difference in the sound now as opposed to fresh out of the box.

I've been listening to them for at least an hour or two a day, some days up to 5 hours. I don't think I'm near the 150 hour recommendation from HiFiMAN but I already hear a positive difference in the sound. The bass is more impactful and overall the "fullness" of the music is more noticeable.

Also, the velours have gotten a lot softer and more comfortable having used them exclusively. I haven't used any mods really, but I did trim around the inside of the velour pads so the holes in the plastic rings are fully exposed. Not sure if this really made a difference, but I'm very satisfied with these headphones.

post #12419 of 17759
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Originally Posted by Mani ATH 87 View Post

I have to say that I've never really been someone who believed in the whole "burn in" time with headphones. After having the HE-400 now for about 2 weeks I have to say that to my ears I can hear a clear difference in the sound now as opposed to fresh out of the box.

I've been listening to them for at least an hour or two a day, some days up to 5 hours. I don't think I'm near the 150 hour recommendation from HiFiMAN but I already hear a positive difference in the sound. The bass is more impactful and overall the "fullness" of the music is more noticeable.

Also, the velours have gotten a lot softer and more comfortable having used them exclusively. I haven't used any mods really, but I did trim around the inside of the velour pads so the holes in the plastic rings are fully exposed. Not sure if this really made a difference, but I'm very satisfied with these headphones.

Bingo. The velours becoming softer means your ears get slightly closer to the drivers, which makes midrange and bass bloom more, and treble less prominent. Very small differences ofc, but should be noticeable to the attentive ear.

post #12420 of 17759
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Huh, didn't know that. My bad if it's supposed to be something not meant to be revealed, will edit my original post.

Yeah, it's a TOS item:

 

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