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post #11866 of 18126

I don't have any issues with pressure or clamp force either. My main issue is the weight. My neck gets a little tired after an hour or so of continuous use. But I'm starting to get used to it

I'm talking about the HE-500, btw. HE-400 weight is fine.

post #11867 of 18126
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Originally Posted by haejuk View Post

I also get all the pressure on top of my head from headbands which makes heavy headphones especially uncomfortable.  Since I got HE-400 I have had a sore spot on the top of my head.  A couple weeks ago I also got an LCD-2 and now I get radiating pain from the top of my head causing headaches.  I am not quite sure if I will be able to deal with the weight of these headphones going forward, but I am taking a week off and trying again.  I am sure I can get used to it because my D2000 also caused me pain on the top of my head at first.  I actually find the audio technica "wing" design to be far more comfortable than any other headband I have ever tried because it puts no pressure on the top of my head. 

Wow ! I am listening to the LCD 2.2 right now and I only feel pressure around my ears but none on top of my head. And I am, well, folically challenged !

post #11868 of 18126
Thread Starter 

^^ Well that's somewhat strange. And also odd that the d2k caused haejuk discomfort. Just goes to show that we are all different. I'm less sensitive to the pressure on the top of the head but more sensitive to the weight and strain on my neck with heavy hp's. Unfortunately for me, the only real answer for my issue is less weight. 

post #11869 of 18126

The D2k caused me discomfort when I first got it and now mild discomfort because of the soreness from the planars.  Before I got HE-400 I could wear D2k forever with no discomfort at all.  Everything takes some time to get used to, but I have also been kind of sick for like 2 weeks (since the day before my LCD-2 arrived) which could have also compounded the pain on the top of my head.  Here's hoping I get used to it soon!  Or I may have to sell my LA2k and get myself a W1000x to give that spot on my head a break from time to time.

post #11870 of 18126
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

Good question. But I have not been able to hear any perceivable difference between the latest revision of the he400 (I've had several). It would be nice though if companies like Audeze let you cherry pick your pair based on the frequency chart. Heck, at that price point you ought to be catered to. 

 

Actually, for a while, Justin (HeadAmp) had made the charts for each Audeze that he had available.  But, it ended quite quickly as I recall.  I suspect the whole issue of people being picky, and then potentially flip-flopping before the order was shipped could have been crazy to manage.

post #11871 of 18126
Thread Starter 

I suppose that there will always some slight variations that can be measured although I believe that it's quite difficult to pick up on these nuances with the human ear. It does make you wonder if HFM could choose to tweak the he400 to remove the tizz or if it's truly just an inherent part of the signature based on the build of the product. 

post #11872 of 18126

I think comfort with the headphone shape/weight is very personal. When I got my LCD-2 I was actually shocked, because I was expecting this horrible contraption that was going to hurt to wear, but they weren't all that bad. Even comfortable to a degree, but the weight did get to me after a few hours. But my neck is pretty well trained... I can do 3 hours no problem with either the LCD-2/HE-500 on a normal day.

post #11873 of 18126
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

I think comfort with the headphone shape/weight is very personal. When I got my LCD-2 I was actually shocked, because I was expecting this horrible contraption that was going to hurt to wear, but they weren't all that bad. Even comfortable to a degree, but the weight did get to me after a few hours. But my neck is pretty well trained... I can do 3 hours no problem with either the LCD-2/HE-500 on a normal day.

I can wear the HE-500 for 14 hours straight and not feel that bad on a normal day, if I'm at home lol.

post #11874 of 18126
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Originally Posted by modulor View Post

You'll have to contact GREQ - he made a few for some users, and may consider making you one if you ask him nicely. smily_headphones1.gif  I just made my own (with his permission of course) but I need to revise mine eventually, as I made the band a bit too short.  Still, way more comfortable!

 

I can't seem to find any traces of the user GREQ in this thread confused.gif

post #11875 of 18126
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I suppose that there will always some slight variations that can be measured although I believe that it's quite difficult to pick up on these nuances with the human ear. It does make you wonder if HFM could choose to tweak the he400 to remove the tizz or if it's truly just an inherent part of the signature based on the build of the product. 

 

Yes I would like to see hifiman "tweak to remove the tizz" as well lol. HE450 maybe?

post #11876 of 18126
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

 

Yes I would like to see hifiman "tweak to remove the tizz" as well lol. HE450 maybe?

Nah they just need to revert to HE400 revision 1 (minus the driver cutting-out issues).

post #11877 of 18126
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

I can wear the HE-500 for 14 hours straight and not feel that bad on a normal day, if I'm at home lol.

 

Have you actually done this? 14 hours straight? I've never listened to hp's for more than about 4 hours before needing a significant break. Heck, I can only listen to my wife for about 4 minutes on a good day. rolleyes.gif jk...it's usually about 5 minutes. 

post #11878 of 18126

14 hours that is a lot... Sleep for about 8 hours, awake for about 16 hours... So that is 87.5% of the waking hours with headphones on lol. After about 5 hours my ears start to hurt, especially with the HE400 and D2000.

post #11879 of 18126
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

 

Have you actually done this? 14 hours straight? I've never listened to hp's for more than about 4 hours before needing a significant break. Heck, I can only listen to my wife for about 4 minutes on a good day. rolleyes.gif jk...it's usually about 5 minutes. 

Easily. I had to cram for exams earlier this year and had the HE500 on all day. Currently I'm applying to grad and staying around home so I probably have the cans on my head for 10 hours a day on average. The recent addition of the NFB11.32, the modulor pads, as well as me getting back into serious parametric EQing means I'm just drowning in new-found hi-fi listening.

 

It's getting to a point where the sound coming from my HE500s are getting close to my "ideal", which is pretty exciting.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

14 hours that is a lot... Sleep for about 8 hours, awake for about 16 hours... So that is 87.5% of the waking hours with headphones on lol. After about 5 hours my ears start to hurt, especially with the HE400 and D2000.

 

Resilient neck, cleanliness around the ears (so no oil/sweat buildup), good room ventilation / temp, comfy (modded maybe) pads / extra headband padding, and it's all good. Optionally you wanna have something to do that occupies your attention all the time (e.g. cramming for exams).


Edited by jerg - 7/31/13 at 11:09am
post #11880 of 18126
Thread Starter 

That's great to hear how close you've gotten to the ideal. A lot of people chase that white elephant for years only hoping to catch a glimpse. Very cool...cool.gif

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