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post #11866 of 19921
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I suppose that there will always some slight variations that can be measured although I believe that it's quite difficult to pick up on these nuances with the human ear. It does make you wonder if HFM could choose to tweak the he400 to remove the tizz or if it's truly just an inherent part of the signature based on the build of the product. 

post #11867 of 19921

I think comfort with the headphone shape/weight is very personal. When I got my LCD-2 I was actually shocked, because I was expecting this horrible contraption that was going to hurt to wear, but they weren't all that bad. Even comfortable to a degree, but the weight did get to me after a few hours. But my neck is pretty well trained... I can do 3 hours no problem with either the LCD-2/HE-500 on a normal day.

post #11868 of 19921
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

I think comfort with the headphone shape/weight is very personal. When I got my LCD-2 I was actually shocked, because I was expecting this horrible contraption that was going to hurt to wear, but they weren't all that bad. Even comfortable to a degree, but the weight did get to me after a few hours. But my neck is pretty well trained... I can do 3 hours no problem with either the LCD-2/HE-500 on a normal day.

I can wear the HE-500 for 14 hours straight and not feel that bad on a normal day, if I'm at home lol.

post #11869 of 19921
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You'll have to contact GREQ - he made a few for some users, and may consider making you one if you ask him nicely. smily_headphones1.gif  I just made my own (with his permission of course) but I need to revise mine eventually, as I made the band a bit too short.  Still, way more comfortable!

 

I can't seem to find any traces of the user GREQ in this thread confused.gif

post #11870 of 19921
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I suppose that there will always some slight variations that can be measured although I believe that it's quite difficult to pick up on these nuances with the human ear. It does make you wonder if HFM could choose to tweak the he400 to remove the tizz or if it's truly just an inherent part of the signature based on the build of the product. 

 

Yes I would like to see hifiman "tweak to remove the tizz" as well lol. HE450 maybe?

post #11871 of 19921
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Yes I would like to see hifiman "tweak to remove the tizz" as well lol. HE450 maybe?

Nah they just need to revert to HE400 revision 1 (minus the driver cutting-out issues).

post #11872 of 19921
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I can wear the HE-500 for 14 hours straight and not feel that bad on a normal day, if I'm at home lol.

 

Have you actually done this? 14 hours straight? I've never listened to hp's for more than about 4 hours before needing a significant break. Heck, I can only listen to my wife for about 4 minutes on a good day. rolleyes.gif jk...it's usually about 5 minutes. 

post #11873 of 19921

14 hours that is a lot... Sleep for about 8 hours, awake for about 16 hours... So that is 87.5% of the waking hours with headphones on lol. After about 5 hours my ears start to hurt, especially with the HE400 and D2000.

post #11874 of 19921
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

 

Have you actually done this? 14 hours straight? I've never listened to hp's for more than about 4 hours before needing a significant break. Heck, I can only listen to my wife for about 4 minutes on a good day. rolleyes.gif jk...it's usually about 5 minutes. 

Easily. I had to cram for exams earlier this year and had the HE500 on all day. Currently I'm applying to grad and staying around home so I probably have the cans on my head for 10 hours a day on average. The recent addition of the NFB11.32, the modulor pads, as well as me getting back into serious parametric EQing means I'm just drowning in new-found hi-fi listening.

 

It's getting to a point where the sound coming from my HE500s are getting close to my "ideal", which is pretty exciting.

 

 

 

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14 hours that is a lot... Sleep for about 8 hours, awake for about 16 hours... So that is 87.5% of the waking hours with headphones on lol. After about 5 hours my ears start to hurt, especially with the HE400 and D2000.

 

Resilient neck, cleanliness around the ears (so no oil/sweat buildup), good room ventilation / temp, comfy (modded maybe) pads / extra headband padding, and it's all good. Optionally you wanna have something to do that occupies your attention all the time (e.g. cramming for exams).


Edited by jerg - 7/31/13 at 11:09am
post #11875 of 19921
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That's great to hear how close you've gotten to the ideal. A lot of people chase that white elephant for years only hoping to catch a glimpse. Very cool...cool.gif

post #11876 of 19921
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Nah they just need to revert to HE400 revision 1 (minus the driver cutting-out issues).

+1

I was so close from ordering before launch at the special price of $350 offered by Fang. Had I known it was going to be the only "good batch" I would have definitely ordered, driver cut out or not. I don't think they all had that cut out problem. I just don't understand why Fang retuned them after so much acclaim.

 

I think the most I've gone wearing the HE-500 or the LCD-2 was maybe 8 hours? I usually average 3 to 5 on a daily basis. Sometimes I go a few days without listening to music or logging on here, but lately that hasn't happened.

post #11877 of 19921
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+1

I was so close from ordering before launch at the special price of $350 offered by Fang. Had I known it was going to be the only "good batch" I would have definitely ordered, driver cut out or not. I don't think they all had that cut out problem. I just don't understand why Fang retuned them after so much acclaim.

 

I think the most I've gone wearing the HE-500 or the LCD-2 was maybe 8 hours? I usually average 3 to 5 on a daily basis. Sometimes I go a few days without listening to music or logging on here, but lately that hasn't happened.

I dunno, I ordered pretty dang early (just 2 days after the cut-off for the orders of rev. 1 batch of HE400s) and the early rev. 2 HE400 I got had massive transient imbalance issues too. It just seems that HFM quality control for early HE400s was really sub-par, as expected. 

 

Rule of thumb should be, if new planar magnetic headphone with new driver is announced and just released, wait half a year even if early reviews are glowing; this applies to both HFM and Audeze.

post #11878 of 19921
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

 

Yes I would like to see hifiman "tweak to remove the tizz" as well lol. HE450 maybe?

 

I doubt if we'd ever see HifiMan perform such a modification.  If they were to tweak the HE-400 in an attempt to perfect it even more, it might just cannibalize sales of their higher end headphones, thus dropping the revenue that HifiMan takes in.  Businesses are smart in that kind of way.  wink.gif

post #11879 of 19921
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^^ I can see where you'd be right about this. But IMO I don't feel with removed tizz, you have an he500 killer. 

post #11880 of 19921

But, with the use of a little EQ (font was striked through to hide forbidden term) I feel I do have an HE-500 killer already.  tongue.gif

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