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We're back on topic.  I started to build a new cable for my HE-400s this evening.  I was just looking to stir things up a bit a try some Mogami for a change as it's been about a year since I last used that cable as opposed to the usual - Canare.

 

If you guys were to get a good look at the he-4 cable, you'd be pretty disappointed that HFM is able to produce such a nice cable yet still continues to include such a poor one with the he400. I realize that there are margins to be met and all that but it's a shame to send out a crappy one regardless of the situation. The he-4 cable is wonderful. 

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If you guys were to get a good look at the he-4 cable, you'd be pretty disappointed that HFM is able to produce such a nice cable yet still continues to include such a poor one with the he400. I realize that there are margins to be met and all that but it's a shame to send out a crappy one regardless of the situation. The he-4 cable is wonderful. 

 

Yes, you are correct.  The cable I built has black nylon sleeving over the cable and in many ways, resembles the cable that comes with the HE-4 headphones.

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Yes, you are correct.  The cable I built has black nylon sleeving over the cable and in many ways, resembles the cable that comes with the HE-4 headphones.

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

 

If you guys were to get a good look at the he-4 cable, you'd be pretty disappointed that HFM is able to produce such a nice cable yet still continues to include such a poor one with the he400. I realize that there are margins to be met and all that but it's a shame to send out a crappy one regardless of the situation. The he-4 cable is wonderful. 

Yeah, I don't understand why they didn't just stick with that cable, it looks and probably feels much nicer.  The current stock HE-400 cable is basically Canare Star Quad Microphone cable with molded connectors, which I suspect is more 'cost effective' for HiFiMan.  I recently attempted to mimic the HE-4 cable myself and got decent results, I'm going to try again soon once I figure out what to do for the Y-junction, and I'm picking up some tubing to use post Y-junction for the next one. http://imgur.com/a/cceYq Since then, I added some strain reliefs using clicky pen springs http://i.imgur.com/LhBHCbZ.jpg and also redid the Y-junction with another layer of heatshrink to look more uniform...this is primarily what I use now at my desk.

 

Wayne - I've found using Mogami Neglex W2799 + de-cored 550 paracord works perfectly, that's what I used in the pictures above.  Post Y-junction I used the smaller Type 1 Vest cord like I've been using in my braided cables.  Good stuff biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

 

If you guys were to get a good look at the he-4 cable, you'd be pretty disappointed that HFM is able to produce such a nice cable yet still continues to include such a poor one with the he400. I realize that there are margins to be met and all that but it's a shame to send out a crappy one regardless of the situation. The he-4 cable is wonderful. 

 

What is bad about the HE400 cable? I thought it was pretty good when I opened the box.... It is a canare cable and looks pretty durable.... What is wrong with it? (except the connections to the cups)

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Don't forget get cables are audiophile jewelry and makes people turn into women. I appreciate any cable that doesn't tangle and is sturdy. tongue.gif
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What is bad about the HE400 cable? I thought it was pretty good when I opened the box.... It is a canare cable and looks pretty durable.... What is wrong with it? (except the connections to the cups)

 

it's stiff, and a lot of people feel it's too long. i don't mind the connectors but XLR would've been better of course.  sound wise it's an excellent cable and it does seem quite durable

 

i'm in the process of making a longer cable and a shorter cable out of more flexible stuff

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Don't forget get cables are audiophile jewelry and makes people turn into women. I appreciate any cable that doesn't tangle and is sturdy. tongue.gif

 

Hm....

 

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it's stiff, and a lot of people feel it's too long. i don't mind the connectors but XLR would've been better of course.  sound wise it's an excellent cable and it does seem quite durable

 

i'm in the process of making a longer cable and a shorter cable out of more flexible stuff

 

Ah...

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it's stiff (meh didn't notice), and a lot of people feel it's too long (better than too short). i don't mind the connectors (connectors are not brilliant) but XLR would've been better of course.  sound wise it's an excellent cable and it does seem quite durable (the only 2 important things, durable and no sound issues)

 

i'm in the process of making a longer cable and a shorter cable out of more flexible stuff

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Yeah, I don't understand why they didn't just stick with that cable, it looks and probably feels much nicer.  The current stock HE-400 cable is basically Canare Star Quad Microphone cable with molded connectors, which I suspect is more 'cost effective' for HiFiMan.  I recently attempted to mimic the HE-4 cable myself and got decent results, I'm going to try again soon once I figure out what to do for the Y-junction, and I'm picking up some tubing to use post Y-junction for the next onehttp://imgur.com/a/cceYq Since then, I added some strain reliefs using clicky pen springs http://i.imgur.com/LhBHCbZ.jpg and also redid the Y-junction with another layer of heatshrink to look more uniform...this is primarily what I use now at my desk.

 

Wayne - I've found using Mogami Neglex W2799 + de-cored 550 paracord works perfectly, that's what I used in the pictures above.  Post Y-junction I used the smaller Type 1 Vest cord like I've been using in my braided cables.  Good stuff biggrin.gif

 

Here's an image of one of my Sennheiser cables, which shows the "Y" junction that I've built in the past, and tend to use the same method for all cables.

 

Sennheiser cable constructed of Canare Star Quad cable, a 1/4" Neutrik TRS connector, and burgundy paracord.

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Very nice Wayne!! For those who might be interested here is the he-4 cable shortened by 2 feet with Oyaide plug added.
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Here's an image of one of my Sennheiser cables, which shows the "Y" junction that I've built in the past, and tend to use the same method for all cables.

 

Sennheiser cable constructed of Canare Star Quad cable, a 1/4" Neutrik TRS connector, and burgundy paracord.

Looks nice!  Yeah, I ended up using a larger piece of heatshrink, heated it by itself so that it was cylindrical and fitted it over the old point, then added a clear piece overtop.  I've been looking for something more rigid, like aluminum or plastic tubing/piping to use.

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Looks nice!  Yeah, I ended up using a larger piece of heatshrink, heated it by itself so that it was cylindrical and fitted it over the old point, then added a clear piece overtop.  I've been looking for something more rigid, like aluminum or plastic tubing/piping to use.

 

I actually use metal sleeves.  Head to Lowes or HD and head for the drawers of small hardware items.  You'll find metal sleeves that are about 5/8" (inner diameter) and 1" long.  You can then insert the cable into the sleeve.  Get it into position where the yoke should sit, then apply some hot glue in the ends of the sleeve.  Finally, use a piece of shrink tube to cover the sleeve and a portion of each cable that goes through the sleeve and apply some heat.  It's 100% easier than trying to build up layers of shrink tube ... and will end up having a more consistant appearance when done.

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Wow - hibernation has great Internet access ! biggrin.gif

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Oh man, that made my night, jerg biggrin.gif

 

Speaking of cables, got the Forza Audioworks Color Series cable in yesterday and it's miles ahead of the stock cable.

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Hm....

 

 

Ah...


Edited by reiserFS - 7/30/13 at 5:48pm
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Oh man, that made my night, jerg biggrin.gif

 

 

Yeah, really.  For a minute there, I thought Jerg was a reporter covering the news on Anthony Weiner.  eek.gif

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