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post #11821 of 19975
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

 

What is bad about the HE400 cable? I thought it was pretty good when I opened the box.... It is a canare cable and looks pretty durable.... What is wrong with it? (except the connections to the cups)

 

it's stiff, and a lot of people feel it's too long. i don't mind the connectors but XLR would've been better of course.  sound wise it's an excellent cable and it does seem quite durable

 

i'm in the process of making a longer cable and a shorter cable out of more flexible stuff

post #11822 of 19975
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Don't forget get cables are audiophile jewelry and makes people turn into women. I appreciate any cable that doesn't tangle and is sturdy. tongue.gif

 

Hm....

 

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Originally Posted by ferday View Post

 

it's stiff, and a lot of people feel it's too long. i don't mind the connectors but XLR would've been better of course.  sound wise it's an excellent cable and it does seem quite durable

 

i'm in the process of making a longer cable and a shorter cable out of more flexible stuff

 

Ah...

post #11823 of 19975
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Originally Posted by ferday View Post

 

it's stiff (meh didn't notice), and a lot of people feel it's too long (better than too short). i don't mind the connectors (connectors are not brilliant) but XLR would've been better of course.  sound wise it's an excellent cable and it does seem quite durable (the only 2 important things, durable and no sound issues)

 

i'm in the process of making a longer cable and a shorter cable out of more flexible stuff

post #11824 of 19975
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Originally Posted by modulor View Post

Yeah, I don't understand why they didn't just stick with that cable, it looks and probably feels much nicer.  The current stock HE-400 cable is basically Canare Star Quad Microphone cable with molded connectors, which I suspect is more 'cost effective' for HiFiMan.  I recently attempted to mimic the HE-4 cable myself and got decent results, I'm going to try again soon once I figure out what to do for the Y-junction, and I'm picking up some tubing to use post Y-junction for the next onehttp://imgur.com/a/cceYq Since then, I added some strain reliefs using clicky pen springs http://i.imgur.com/LhBHCbZ.jpg and also redid the Y-junction with another layer of heatshrink to look more uniform...this is primarily what I use now at my desk.

 

Wayne - I've found using Mogami Neglex W2799 + de-cored 550 paracord works perfectly, that's what I used in the pictures above.  Post Y-junction I used the smaller Type 1 Vest cord like I've been using in my braided cables.  Good stuff biggrin.gif

 

Here's an image of one of my Sennheiser cables, which shows the "Y" junction that I've built in the past, and tend to use the same method for all cables.

 

Sennheiser cable constructed of Canare Star Quad cable, a 1/4" Neutrik TRS connector, and burgundy paracord.

post #11825 of 19975
Thread Starter 
Very nice Wayne!! For those who might be interested here is the he-4 cable shortened by 2 feet with Oyaide plug added.
post #11826 of 19975
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

 

Here's an image of one of my Sennheiser cables, which shows the "Y" junction that I've built in the past, and tend to use the same method for all cables.

 

Sennheiser cable constructed of Canare Star Quad cable, a 1/4" Neutrik TRS connector, and burgundy paracord.

Looks nice!  Yeah, I ended up using a larger piece of heatshrink, heated it by itself so that it was cylindrical and fitted it over the old point, then added a clear piece overtop.  I've been looking for something more rigid, like aluminum or plastic tubing/piping to use.

post #11827 of 19975
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Originally Posted by modulor View Post

Looks nice!  Yeah, I ended up using a larger piece of heatshrink, heated it by itself so that it was cylindrical and fitted it over the old point, then added a clear piece overtop.  I've been looking for something more rigid, like aluminum or plastic tubing/piping to use.

 

I actually use metal sleeves.  Head to Lowes or HD and head for the drawers of small hardware items.  You'll find metal sleeves that are about 5/8" (inner diameter) and 1" long.  You can then insert the cable into the sleeve.  Get it into position where the yoke should sit, then apply some hot glue in the ends of the sleeve.  Finally, use a piece of shrink tube to cover the sleeve and a portion of each cable that goes through the sleeve and apply some heat.  It's 100% easier than trying to build up layers of shrink tube ... and will end up having a more consistant appearance when done.

post #11828 of 19975

Wow - hibernation has great Internet access ! biggrin.gif

post #11829 of 19975

Oh man, that made my night, jerg biggrin.gif

 

Speaking of cables, got the Forza Audioworks Color Series cable in yesterday and it's miles ahead of the stock cable.

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Hm....

 

 

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post #11830 of 19975
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Oh man, that made my night, jerg biggrin.gif

 

 

Yeah, really.  For a minute there, I thought Jerg was a reporter covering the news on Anthony Weiner.  eek.gif

post #11831 of 19975

Alright guys (and girls)...

 

Long time lurker, first time poster.  I just got my HE-400's today.  With all the praise, especially for their bass, I was pretty sure I would be ecstatic.  However, I can hardly keep them on.

 

The comfort is fine, but it's their overall sound that kills my ears.  They are just too sharp in the treble.  It feels like I am stabbing myself in the ears.  I've read almost every page in this thread, as well as countless others, and thought I had a good understanding of what I was getting.  

 

I should mention that I usually listen at pretty quiet volume, so the bass might be more recessed than normal.  My audio chain is a Steinberg MR816x for my DAC-->unbalanced TRS to RCA-->Project Ember Amplifier.  Just to cover the bases; Windows volume is at 100%, MR816x volume at 30%, low input gain on Ember, low output impedance (0.1 Ohm), and volume pot at 9 o'clock.  This is my normal listening volume.  

 

My other headphones for reference:

 

Beyerdynamic DT880/250 Ohm - First pair of headphones.  Analytical, bright, but very clear and not harsh to my ears.  IMO the only thing wrong with them is there should be more bass.

 

MrSeaker's Mad Dog w Alpha Pads - These are the perfect mid dominant headphones.  They are darker and more laid back compared to the DT880s, however, they provide as much detail and have more natural sound.  Their sound stage is narrower than the DT880s, but it has more depth.  If the Mad Dogs had slightly more bass and treble they would be my favorite headphone.

 

Audio Technica WS99 - My favorite headphone.  I thought that they might have too much bass being a "solid bass" series from Audio Technica, but I find that their sound signature is just about perfect for me.  They have great positional accuracy and a descent sound stage.  My only gripes are the slight mid bass hump, and the narrower sound stage probably because they are closed.  They work excellent as a portable headphone and sound even better when amped.  The bass tightens up and the sound stage and dynamics improve.

 

Beyerdynamic DT1350 - My favorite sound signature.  I love the sound from these little cans!  Absolutely amazing!  The bass has authority without trampling over the mids, and the treble brings airiness and detail without being to tingy or harsh.  My issue with these headphones is the comfort.  I can't stand the pressure of on ear headphones.  Stretching the headband helps some but kills the seal and the bass.  

 

Hifiman HE-400 - What I thought would fix my gripes with the DT880.  I have no issues with comfort with either the pleather pads or the velour pads.  I listened to the pleather pads for a bit and It felt like someone had put a 6 Db spike around 9 kHz.  This made everything very harsh to me.  People say that there is excellent bass with these cans, and that might be true if there wasn't a huge harsh spike in the treble.  The velour pads definitely helped smooth out the mids and highs, although they further tilted the headphones toward a brighter sound signature to me.  

 

I am frankly saddened.  I thought the HE-400 would be a good upgrade from the DT880 and the Mad Dog.  I'm not sure if I received a faulty one, or if for some reason there is horrible synergy/ not enough power.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.  I am looking at the HD650 as it's supposed to be a darker more laid back headphone, but I'm not sure anymore.

 

Maybe I'm just a basshead.  biggrin.gif

post #11832 of 19975
Thread Starter 

Just want to say welcome!! biggrin.gif And sorry about your wallet. 

post #11833 of 19975

If you pull the earpads off of your he-400, what color is the plastic covering the magnets? 

post #11834 of 19975
Thread Starter 

Mine are pink. eek.gif I loaned them to NinjaJames and they just came back that way. 

post #11835 of 19975
Thread Starter 

If anyone has a pair of the j$ beyers to sell or knows of someone who might want to sell, please send me a pm. Trying to add to the collection.

 

 

thanks...

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