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Originally Posted by yovet0 View Post

So my HE-400 arived before 3 days, and I am impressed. That's my first pair of Cans, so I think my wallet will stay empty smily_headphones1.gif. I bought them from Amazon.de for 400 euro, but I'm sure they deserve every cent. And now it's coming the next step, I need a good amp for them, so can someone recommend me a good desktop amp for around 300 euro. I know that I can drive them with Fiio 17, but i want to spend my money for something what I will use in the future, not just for this cans.

 

I have the Audio-GD Compass 2 which is a combined ES9018 Sabre DAC and a beefy headphone amplifier, its 400 euros delivered but well worth the extra.  I have just "upgraded" to the HE500 from the HE400 and it sounds magnificent with both.  If you wanted to save some cash you could go for the NFB-11.32 or NFB 15.32. Personally id go with either the Compass 2 or the 11.32 as im a big fan of the sabre dac.

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Originally Posted by reiserFS View Post

They do? Don't see anything on their website though.

PM Toxic Cables here on Head-fi, he carries a variety of their amps. 

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Good to know! 

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Originally Posted by Sniping View Post

PM Toxic Cables here on Head-fi, he carries a variety of their amps. 

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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

About all the spl stuff and amp requirenments, I think you can't just put it in to boxes based on numbers, but for planars, I think it is a good starting point, that they need enough power to reach 120dB. In the case of the HE-400, that eqauls appproximately 560mW. For the HE-500 it would be 1,5 watts. 


The math doesn't lie, but manufacturers sometimes do - by publishing specs that are not met under real-world conditions. I've owned lots of amps that were over- as well as under-rated, in terms of actual power output. What currently drives me nutty is the realization that many home audio receivers' output power varies dramatically depending on the load - producing far less power per channel with all channels stressed. Not necessarily a problem under 'real world' listening situations, but still, never mentioned in published specs. I hate that stuff.

 

Assuming that published efficiencies and impedance are correct, and amplifier specs are also honest (or hopefully erring on conservative), the rule of thumb is a good rule of thumb.

 

My post was mainly about clarifying that the HE-400 can indeed reach 'concert' volumes with about a half-watt - not the 3-8 watt amps some people seem to think are appropriate.

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Originally Posted by TexasBuck View Post

Would you recommend Forza Audioworks as a company?  Let me know how this cable works out for you and the impact on the sound.


Yes, I would recommend him.Found him off of ebay.

My change of cable was to get better XLR connectors, more flexible cable, shorter cable and the clear cover is nice too. The SQ will not change I think, it was not my main focus when buying the cable but if it did, then it's a bonus.


Edited by Lohb - 7/18/13 at 11:44pm
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@Beaver: Hi do u happen to have the treble fixer for foobar?

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Originally Posted by renishi View Post

@Beaver: Hi do u happen to have the treble fixer for foobar?

 

Yes I do but it uses the Electri-Q plugin, it's much better than foobar's built in equalizer. To set up Electri-Q in foobar you'll need a VST wrapper.

 

If you need any help setting it up let me know.


Edited by beaver316 - 7/19/13 at 10:16am
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Thank you i will try to set it up tmr. It is 1am here :)

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Mine finally got here today, giving them a couple hour burn before serious listening, when I plugged them in with a cold amp I did listen to a little bit of 3 or 4 tracks.  I've been listening to the RE-400 Waterline that I also got today in the mean time while I let the HE-400 cook a little, pretty amazing sound for $99! I decided to get a pair of HE-400 and a pair of RE-400 instead of buying Sennheiser HD650!

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Thread Starter 

Very nice and congrats!! Shout out to a fellow Atlantan...biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

Very nice and congrats!! Shout out to a fellow Atlantan...biggrin.gif


Thanks man! Thanks for the advice on the velour pads from the first page of this thread.  I just started listening and changed from the pleather and heard an immediate change in the sound for the better! I made sure to order them straight away with the headphones.  I wonder if I can get a pair of the memory foam ones from the AKG K702 65th Anniv on these cans? Those memory foam pads are the bomb...

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What are you running the 400 and k702 from?

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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

What are you running the 400 and k702 from?


I am running the HE-400 with the Musical Fidelity X-Can V2 with some Reflektor 6N23P-EB tubes in it off of an AudioQuest Dragon Fly hooked up with a really good mini to RCA Kimber Kable that costs as much as the headphones do! Also, I have been listening to the K702  on the Schiit Audio Valhalla and REALLY enjoying that combo! It shouldn't sound great, but it does, so i am sticking with it! I've got an NAD CD player or sometimes I switch to a NAD SACD/DVD-Audio Player in that system hooked up with another nice set of  Kimber Kable and it runs off a dedicated power conditioner with a massive Tiff aftermarket power cord. Those are my 2 dedicated systems right now...I may end up with an Asgard 2 also that could be used with either one of these headphones. 

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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

What are you running the 400 and k702 from?


I am running the HE-400 with the Musical Fidelity X-Can V2 with some Reflektor 6N23P-EB tubes in it off of an AudioQuest Dragon Fly hooked up with a really good mini to RCA Kimber Kable that costs as much as the headphones do! Also, I have been listening to the K702  on the Schiit Audio Valhalla and REALLY enjoying that combo! It shouldn't sound great, but it does, so i am sticking with it! I've got an NAD CD player or sometimes I switch to a NAD SACD/DVD-Audio Player in that system hooked up with another nice set of  Kimber Kable and it runs off a dedicated power conditioner with a massive Tiff aftermarket power cord. Those are my 2 dedicated systems right now...I may end up with an Asgard 2 also that could be used with either one of these headphones. 

I wouldn't say either amps are optimal for those headphones. But ofc I haven't heard it... How do you think Valhalla with HE-400 compares to the x-can?

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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

I wouldn't say either amps are optimal for those headphones. But ofc I haven't heard it... How do you think Valhalla with HE-400 compares to the x-can?

As per the FAQ on the Schiit Valhalla page, the OTL amps are no good for Orthos, so I havent even tried it, never will probably. As far as the Musical Fidelity X-Can v2 goes, that's a pretty bad ass amp, it's a Class A tube hybrid that effortlessly drives most anything. It's not quite flavor of the month anymore, but it's still pretty damn good. I picked it up for $150 used and after adding the new(old!) tubes I'm quite happy with it on either set of cans.
Edited by jmsaxon69 - 7/20/13 at 5:41am
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