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Thanks for clarifying all that.  I knew I had something wrong, but I never really tried listening to any more demanding phones out of  my iPhone or anything so I never got to experience it.

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You can look at the headphone's specs to determine whether or not you will get enough volume out of a source.  For example an LCD2 is something like 90 dB/1 mW.  This means it can get usefully loud on almost any source, but generally you won't get the same dynamic response as when they have more power.

 

I just looked up the HE-500 and it has almost the same sensitivity as the LCD2 at 89dB/mW.  The LCD2 site specifies that the optimal power to be put into them as 1W - 4W, but sadly I can't find any similar power recomendations for HE-400 and HE-500 on the Hifiman website. 

 

Basically, if there isn't enough power you will have enough volume but the frequency response will probably be rolled off on both ends.  Someone please feel free to correct me if this is wrong as I am no electrical engineer or anything.

 

400's probably 200 mW to 1 watt ? They ran just OK off my last altoid....2-500 mW I think.

No idea why they say they can run straight off your source with no dedicated amping.

Just would not get anywhere near the full potential out of them and the casual tester may just think they are so-so without extra amping.


Edited by Lohb - 7/14/13 at 10:52am
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He-400 + schiit magni or dt990 pro + bottlehead crack and speedball??
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I do love me some tube amps but I would still say I like the he-400 more than the dt990.

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I do love me some tube amps but I would still say I like the he-400 more than the dt990.
Because it performs better or you prefer it?
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I just got rid of a pair of DT990 600 ohm and have ordered a pair of HE-400.  I have never heard the HE-400 and now after reading almost everything about them am afraid I just made the same mistake as I did on the DT990.  I dumped the DT990 because of the treble response.  I read so many reviews about how great the HE-400 are but some how missed a lot of the treble spike complaints. I was using the DT990 600 ohm on the Shiit Valhalla, but after I got rid of the DT990 I figured I'd go in a different direction and not use an amp that needs a higher impedance headphone.  So trying to get something like an Asgard 2 or a Lyr to power my AKG K602 Annies and the incoming HE-400 and potentially a 3rd headphone that will more than likely be a HD650 or HD700.  I am really nervous that the HE-400 are going to sound like the DT990 in the treble region and I am going to hate them.  The HE-400 gets so many good reviews, I figured it was a safe bet and my listening has been pretty heavily divided by EDM and old school Jazz lately.  The AKG are sounding pretty good on my recently acquired Musical Fidelity X-Can V2, hopefully the HE-400 will be a good match too as I am not having much luck moving the Valhalla right now.


Edited by jmsaxon69 - 7/14/13 at 11:45am
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^A slight treble roll-off, and you won't have any problems.
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^A slight treble roll-off, and you won't have any problems.

If you are talking about EQ'ing it ain't gonna happen, haven't used an EQ since I was a in high school (1986), so I may be moving through the HE-400 pretty quickly.
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If you are talking about EQ'ing it ain't gonna happen, haven't used an EQ since I was a in high school (1986), so I may be moving through the HE-400 pretty quickly.

i find the hot treble thing to be quite overrated, i don't normally EQ my 400's and i think they sound great.  to each their own, maybe you won't like them but when i demoed, i preferred them 100x to the 600/650 and am happy i went that way (although now i'm interested in the he500 ;)

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I just got rid of a pair of DT990 600 ohm and have ordered a pair of HE-400.  I have never heard the HE-400 and now after reading almost everything about them am afraid I just made the same mistake as I did on the DT990.  I dumped the DT990 because of the treble response.  I read so many reviews about how great the HE-400 are but some how missed a lot of the treble spike complaints. I was using the DT990 600 ohm on the Shiit Valhalla, but after I got rid of the DT990 I figured I'd go in a different direction and not use an amp that needs a higher impedance headphone.  So trying to get something like an Asgard 2 or a Lyr to power my AKG K602 Annies and the incoming HE-400 and potentially a 3rd headphone that will more than likely be a HD650 or HD700.  I am really nervous that the HE-400 are going to sound like the DT990 in the treble region and I am going to hate them.  The HE-400 gets so many good reviews, I figured it was a safe bet and my listening has been pretty heavily divided by EDM and old school Jazz lately.  The AKG are sounding pretty good on my recently acquired Musical Fidelity X-Can V2, hopefully the HE-400 will be a good match too as I am not having much luck moving the Valhalla right now.
What do you think of the akg annies? Do you think you'd prefer them over the he400?
Edited by Nimzerz - 7/14/13 at 12:23pm
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i find the hot treble thing to be quite overrated, i don't normally EQ my 400's and i think they sound great.  to each their own, maybe you won't like them but when i demoed, i preferred them 100x to the 600/650 and am happy i went that way (although now i'm interested in the he500 ;)

Thanks for the feedback, what are you driving them with?

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What do you think of the akg annies? Do you think you'd prefer them over the he400?


Hard to say at this point, HE-400 are on the way.   I do like the AKG quite a bit, if I could have anyhthing more wit the AKG it would be just a tad more bass.  I hear the HE-400 have that in spades.  Oh well, time will tell, it was HE-400 or HD650 and I went HE-400....and a pair of RE-400 all for the same price as a pair of HD650!

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Thanks for the feedback, what are you driving them with?

Jriver-e17. I have a magni/modi on the way but I don't expect much (any) change, just more power and a desktop setup. I love these cans with every genre, they excel with bass heavy recordings
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Jriver-e17. I have a magni/modi on the way but I don't expect much (any) change, just more power and a desktop setup. I love these cans with every genre, they excel with bass heavy recordings


Just off the cuff, I'd say that the HE-400 would be my Electronic and Rock cans and the AKG my Jazz and (some limited classical) other non-electric music phones.

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Why is it that HE-400 sounds much better with DSP like Dolby Headphones and ProLogic?

I'm using this features on Xonar ST and it is a big difference, the music opens up more, soundstage is glorious, the mids change  for the better, without these effects mids seem muffled.

Before these orthos, those effects did nothing good to dynamic headphones, so I didn't use them, but now I cant do without Dolby DSP.

I'm using vintage amp and/or Xonar ST with LME49990 and I have no problem with sibilance.


Edited by verde57 - 7/15/13 at 12:26am
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