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Everytime I hear a comment about how revealing the lambda series is, I get myself wondering how the SR series sound like.

 

SR-007 is my dream end-game can(or I hope so). Not too long ago I was very close of purchasing one. I don't know if i'll be able to resist if I see another set for sale here in Brazil.


Edited by Okamoto - 6/14/13 at 9:21pm
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Originally Posted by modulor View Post

I too would be interested to know as well.  I can try to measure it with my calipers this weekend, but I would guess they are too small to get the proper pitch.  I'll try my best!  If it's found out though, I would recommend ordering from McMaster-Carr - that's where I get most of my hardware.  I would like to get some more durable hex screws that match the arms.

 

 

As a wise man once said: "If it's not modded, it's not worth listening to." tongue.gif


That would be great. I was actually trying to find the same size in brass as it would go with the wood and new clear sleeved copper cables. I might just contact HFM direct as well as I'm sure they will know the techie specification of the screws....


Edited by Lohb - 6/14/13 at 10:41pm
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Time to swap back to velour pads? tongue.gif If there is one thing to be noted about HFM velours, it's that it makes the sound very analytical, dry, and revealing, compared to pleathers (modded or not).

Nahh, don't want to throw the tonal balance off. I have my Stax for that. Speaking of Stax:

 

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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post

Everytime I hear a comment about how revealing the lambda series is, I get myself wondering how the SR series sound like.

 

SR-007 is my dream end-game can(or I hope so). Not too long ago I was very close of purchasing one. I don't know if i'll be able to resist if I see another set for sale here in Brazil.

From memory I'd tend to think the Stax I have now is more revealing than the 007. The 007 has more bass, way smoother sound and a tonality better suited for vocals, though. Also a bit more well proportioned sound stage. The signature is kinda like: 'Hey, who cares if the sound is a bit etchy, and the tonal balance is a bit off. DETAILS all the way!'

post #10939 of 17961

Ohh, the bass actually digs deeper than the HE-500. It does roll of a lot at some 30 Hz, but it goes down to 15 Hz.

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The 007 was the best hp I heard at the Atlanta meet. There was "more expensive" hp's there but I enjoyed the 007 more. 

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The 007 was the best hp I heard at the Atlanta meet. There was "more expensive" hp's there but I enjoyed the 007 more. 

Very enjoyable indeed. Funny thing is, out of a lot of headphones at a recent meet, I enjoyed the JVC DX1000 the most.

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That's the cool thing about meets. You get to listen to gear where price doesn't matter. I'll never own the 007. But it was neat to be able to hear it and understand what the sound signature was all about. I also got to hear the he-6 on speaker taps. Again, I can't afford that setup but it help me to put it in perspective with the other HFM products I've owned. 

post #10943 of 17961

How'd the 007 sound like to the HE-400.

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Thread Starter 

Not even on the same planet. If you only have one word to describe the Stax, it would be "realism." They startled you with the ability to sound so lifelike and natural. It's literally as close as you can come to being there listening to actual live music. 

 

I guess I need to start playing the lottery if I plan to have a chance to own them. 

post #10945 of 17961

What about the bass impact and extension?  It's the thing that turns me off the most about electrostats compared to planars.

 

How about the tonality in general?  Does it still retain the same elevated bass and lower mids with a slight reduction in upper mids and slight peak in the treble?

 

 

I might just sell this still in the shipping box lego falcon I have and get like 5-10k from it to get an 007 one of these days.

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

Not even on the same planet. If you only have one word to describe the Stax, it would be "realism." They startled you with the ability to sound so lifelike and natural. It's literally as close as you can come to being there listening to actual live music. 

I guess I need to start playing the lottery if I plan to have a chance to own them. 

This! I listened to the SR-009/BHSE at the Dallas meet last week, using my own tracks. I almost cried. It made everything else in the room seem so plain, including the LCD-3, HD800, etc.

It single handedly cured my upgradeitis, and replaced it with endgameitis. I have to own one within the next 4 years. Maybe I'll use it to build credit....
post #10947 of 17961
The bass is not as present, but more precise. It is actually a part of the soundstage instead of like a good subwoofer (he-400)
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The bass was the biggest surprise for me. The 009 had gobs of sub-bass, but it was the classiest bass I've ever heard. Clean, every note was heard, and it had way more natural impact than something like the HD800.
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This! I listened to the SR-009/BHSE at the Dallas meet last week, using my own tracks. I almost cried. It made everything else in the room seem so plain, including the LCD-3, HD800, etc.

It single handedly cured my upgradeitis, and replaced it with endgameitis. I have to own one within the next 4 years. Maybe I'll use it to build credit....

 

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

The bass was the biggest surprise for me. The 009 had gobs of sub-bass, but it was the classiest bass I've ever heard. Clean, every note was heard, and it had way more natural impact than something like the HD800.

 

What eke says. Listening to the stax was an epiphany for me. Cathartic. This is what all I've always wanted to hear when I put hp's own to listen to music. The lcd3 sounded great, fantastic even but it couldn't hold a candle to the Stax setup. 

 

I sampled lots of setups but kept coming back to the Stax for another quickie. I'm still trying to decide if it was a good or bad thing to hear them. Nah, it was great. Even though I'll never own a Lambo if you offered to let me test drive you better believe I'll take you up on it. 

post #10950 of 17961

In the end planar magnetic is still a "hack" compared to modern planar electrostatic headphones. Instead of stats which have a perfectly even and ultra-thin diaphragm, sandwiched between finely-designed plates that have very little interference on sound, you get orthos which have thicker diaphragms that are uneven due to the metallic patterned tracings adhered onto them, sandwitched between dozens of bar magnets on plates that cause unwanted reverbs and distortions before the sound even escapes the drivers.

 

Of course orthos are attractive because they are a great compromise between stats and dynamics in terms of sound and amp requirements, but the one saving grace they have in terms of sound is  that characteristically they always seem to have the thick, lush lower end that neither stats nor dynamics can capture as well. Some might hate that quality though, as it's more of a musicality preference than straight-up SQ superiority.


Edited by jerg - 6/15/13 at 11:13am
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