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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Oh I'm quite sure people would be 'modding' the crap out of their hd650s and akg701s if they were as easily switchable pads as the hifimans. Hd650 has an advantage-- or disadvantage, in that it changes sound signature much more drasticly than the purely resistive he-400. 'Amp rolling, is such a big deal with the sennheiser phones because everybody is trying to find their preferred sound with them and they know they're responsive to upstream equipment. That's more of a commitment than cutting holes in 20 dollar pads.

Really interesting point there. I would consider use of amps/DACs "modding" sound to get their personal favourite sound.

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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Oh I'm quite sure people would be 'modding' the crap out of their hd650s and akg701s if they were as easily switchable pads as the hifimans. Hd650 has an advantage-- or disadvantage, in that it changes sound signature much more drasticly than the purely resistive he-400. 'Amp rolling, is such a big deal with the sennheiser phones because everybody is trying to find their preferred sound with them and they know they're responsive to upstream equipment. That's more of a commitment than cutting holes in 20 dollar pads.

Thanks Raven! That's something I didn't know and makes a lot of sense. The ironic thing for me though is that the HE400 didn't come into focus until I changed electronics. While pad mods did a little something, I "got there" through an amp and dac change. I never did get EQ dialed in to my liking so I'm back to flat as far as that's concerned.

EDIT: Pad mods being easier on the 400 is something I hadn't considered either. Does that mean the 300, 500, 6, etc. are messed around with as much?
Edited by BigCabDaddy - 5/19/13 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by BigCabDaddy View Post


Thanks Raven! That's something I didn't know and makes a lot of sense. The ironic thing for me though is that the HE400 didn't come into focus until I changed electronics. While pad mods did a little something, I "got there" through an amp and dac change. I never did get EQ dialed in to my liking so I'm back to flat as far as that's concerned.

EDIT: Pad mods being easier on the 400 is something I hadn't considered either. Does that mean the 300, 500, 6, etc. are messed around with as much?

Not as much but I have seen 500, 6 users doing both grill and pad mods.

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Still love my HE400 cans and more than ever. With my current setup - modified Darkvoice 336 SE, Sylvania 6AS7G, Shuguang CV181-Z and Pioneer DV-668AV - I have never heard Snow Patrol "Up to now" so nice and moving. I will have to try the jergpad mod ... and yes, bass has outstanding qualities. Even soundwise I do like these orthos more than my AKG K1000. Will have to test the latter with an 300B-SE amp.
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BigCabDaddy -

 

To you carry the same attitude into other purchases you make? While I 'get' that nothing is perfect, I still know awesome when I hear it. In like fashion, I can come up with plenty of reasons to hate most of my other electronics, the monitor I am currently staring at, my car, etc. Yet they were all the best choice I could make at the time, with available information and available funds. Hell, I can't even get into relationships that don't end up with 'treble spikes' placed where I don't want them.

 

Neither the phones, your ears, or your music are perfect, so why sweat the small stuff? The HE-400 kick a** as far as I am concerned, and EQ'd or not, they are more than enough to please me 99% of the time!

 

What I am really in need of is some awesome new music - my currently collection is getting too 'familiar', and a lot of the new stuff this year has just been bad / disappointing so far.


Edited by MrMateoHead - 5/20/13 at 4:04am
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Am I the only one that prefers ATH-AD900X over HE-400? Even though it's costs less than half as much, it's much more comfortable, has bigger and airier soundstage, easier to drive and has better treble (lively, but non-fatiguing). I am trying to find an area in which HE-400 has advantage, but can't so far...

 

Both are burned in for over 200 hours - ATH-AD900X did get a much better bass as a result, didn't notice a significant change in HE-400.

 

Please, only people that heard both respond.

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Am I the only one that prefers ATH-AD900X over HE-400? Even though it's costs less than half as much, it's much more comfortable, has bigger and airier soundstage, easier to drive and has better treble (lively, but non-fatiguing). I am trying to find an area in which HE-400 has advantage, but can't so far...

 

Both are burned in for over 200 hours - ATH-AD900X did get a much better bass as a result, didn't notice a significant change in HE-400.

 

Please, only people that heard both respond.

 

Uhm...bass? wink.gif

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View PostUhm...bass? wink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by BenF View PostPlease, only people that heard both respond.

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Uhm...bass? wink.gif


I truly doubt AD900x has better bass than HE-400 or any other planar heapdhone.

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Originally Posted by BenF View Post

Am I the only one that prefers ATH-AD900X over HE-400? Even though it's costs less than half as much, it's much more comfortable, has bigger and airier soundstage, easier to drive and has better treble (lively, but non-fatiguing). I am trying to find an area in which HE-400 has advantage, but can't so far...

Both are burned in for over 200 hours - ATH-AD900X did get a much better bass as a result, didn't notice a significant change in HE-400.

Please, only people that heard both respond.

I do like the bottom end of the HE400 better. But other than that, I prefer the AD900X which, as you say, makes the AD900X a vastly better value to my way of hearing. If I had to keep only one of the two, it would be the AD900X. Based on my impressions of both, I'm more likely to make an unheard purchase of the AD2000X than I am the HE500.
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Originally Posted by BigCabDaddy View Post


I do like the bottom end of the HE400 better. But other than that, I prefer the AD900X which, as you say, makes the AD900X a vastly better value to my way of hearing. If I had to keep only one of the two, it would be the AD900X. Based on my impressions of both, I'm more likely to make an unheard purchase of the AD2000X than I am the HE500.


BigCabDaddy You did say the 400's were hugely amp dependent back in this thread.

I wonder what amp/upstream you are using BenF ?

Maybe you hit the magic combo a lot cheaper for your SQ taste Ben...good for you !

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BigCabDaddy You did say the 400's were hugely amp dependent back in this thread.

I wonder what amp/upstream you are using BenF ?

Maybe you hit the magic combo a lot cheaper for your SQ taste Ben...good for you !

 

I am using Odac with FIIO E12 and E17, both without the bass boost.

 

I like the low end on ATH-AD900X and HE-400 the same, can't say one is better than the other.

Both are excellent in this area.

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I am using Odac with FIIO E12 and E17, both without the bass boost.

 

I like the low end on ATH-AD900X and HE-400 the same, can't say one is better than the other.

Both are excellent in this area.

 

I've not used your dacs and amps, but they're both are intended as portable units, aren't they? My Pico portable dac/amp wasn't up to powering my HE400 adequately. When I switched to a more powerful desktop amp, (either Cambridge DacMagic + Denon receiver or Lexicon Omega) my HE400 performance improved markedly.

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Originally Posted by BigCabDaddy View Post

 

I've not used your dacs and amps, but they're both are intended as portable units, aren't they? My Pico portable dac/amp wasn't up to powering my HE400 adequately. When I switched to a more powerful desktop amp, (either Cambridge DacMagic + Denon receiver or Lexicon Omega) my HE400 performance improved markedly.


I did notice an improvement using E12 over E17, but don't think any more power will help.

My listening volume on E12 is around 11-12AM, so there is plenty unused power left.


Edited by BenF - 5/20/13 at 10:37am
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Heya guys.

 

I need to find myself a good porable amp for these (E17 simply dosent cut it). I already posted on the right forum but seems ill have more luck here, since its oriented towards the HE-400.

 

I was planing to get the fiio E12 but it turns out it has a decent amount of hiss and EMI (or at least some folk seem to think so).

 

I have never heard any hiss or EMI from the E17 if it was not reciving power from the USB, but when it does its very easy to notice on the HE-400.

Anyone know how much more or less of HIss and EMI has E17 in direct comparison to E12?

 

Now my main problem is that since i live in Poland i cant get some of those awsome portalbe amps out there.

Id like it to be a 1 Watt (moreless.... 800mA to 2 Watt ) portable amp, and if possible that it wont need ventilation to work (id like to be able to carry it in a pocket).

 

Ofc id also like it to be long battery bass control and even cheap but im kinda realistic :D.

 

So in order of preferences:

 

1. Portable

2. arround 1 watt

3. Batt life over 8 hours

4. dosent overheat too much

5. cheap.

 

And plz give me as many models as possible, I need to find a way to actually buy them. ( i saw at head-fi featured some of those amps but i cant seem to find them now). If anything, PM me with the possible models?

 

Thx :D.

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