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post #10531 of 20000
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

I've been behind on this thread so I don't know if it was discussed yet but I just wanted to note that Random Access Memories by Daft Punk is out in the wild and it sounds amazing on the HE-400.

 

Agreed, sounds really good. Great album too, not sure why there's so much hate for it online.

post #10532 of 20000
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

 

Agreed, sounds really good. Great album too, not sure why there's so much hate for it online.

Is there a lot of hate for it? I tend to avoid more of the bigger Daft Punk discussions, they have a really annoying fanbase and an even more annoying haterbase. I mean, for the most part.

 

My theory regarding Daft Punk and people hating this new album is that DP picked up a TON of casual fans over the big chunk of time since their last album, and those casual fans have heard many more of the straight-up dance, heavy bass tracks and expected a full on electronic album like that as opposed to the disco-centered album that everyone else knew we were getting.

post #10533 of 20000

Being a big Daft Punk fan, my opinion on RAM initially was something like this:

 

"It sounds like Daft Punk collaborated with each of the (contributing) artists on their own albums/releases.  Then, all those tracks were put together in a compilation called Random Access Memories.  Daft Punk seem to be more in the background and the collaborators are in the spotlight."

 

Having said that, I don't think that necessarily makes it a bad album, just a very different approach for them.  I like that they can do that, and I like disco-influenced music.  There are some strong moments, like the second half of track 3, tracks 8-9 and tracks 12-13.  The end is phenomenal on the HE-400, there is no doubt about that.  The rest will have to grow on me I suppose, but I feel there is a bit of awkwardness in the first half of the album.  I still recommend people check it out!

post #10534 of 20000

For me, the album is the one they've always wanted to do: an honest tribute to Italo disco. And in that vein, it's perfect. Then again, every Daft Punk album for me has always been "great track, great track, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, great track" or something to that effect.

 

The great tracks this time around are Giorgio by Murder, Lose Yourself to Dance and Contact. Man that closer is way too good.

post #10535 of 20000

Lol. The "Sennheiser veil" is totally real, in IMHO, and reflects the compromise between listening comfort / accuracy that is made with the Senns I have tried so far (and I have tried a few low-higher end).

 

With Audio, it is usually nice to have phones that have 'too much this' or 'too much that', because it is easier to EQ down than it is to get sounds that they cannot reproduce well. Especially in a computer environment, 31 band EQs, parametric, etc give you lots of tweaking ability.

 

I find the "fun factor" of the HE-400 to be related more to its transparency, its attack, its bass texture, and its broadband response along with its magical ability to seem like it is never working hard. This is very different than claiming a "V Shaped response" (which I would argue it DOES NOT have unless you center that V around, say, 2-4 Khz). The HE-400 are essentially flat with de-emphasized upper mids/treble that are the frequencies that can tend to blare (to my ears anyway). I think that the fatigue I experience at times is derivative more of bass response/pressure (which can be pretty intense), as opposed to peaky treble, which is usually just right to my ears (as in present, but not overly forward).

 

All I know is if I could afford it, I would own a lot more Planar's! Speakers and Phones.

post #10536 of 20000
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

For me, the album is the one they've always wanted to do: an honest tribute to Italo disco. And in that vein, it's perfect. Then again, every Daft Punk album for me has always been "great track, great track, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, great track" or something to that effect.

 

The great tracks this time around are Giorgio by Murder, Lose Yourself to Dance and Contact. Man that closer is way too good.

I totally agree, I do love Italo disco and they did a good job in that respect.  Lose Yourself to Dance is pretty good now that I'm giving it another listen...haha, I always do this but I try not to be over-critical.

post #10537 of 20000
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Originally Posted by modulor View Post

Being a big Daft Punk fan, my opinion on RAM initially was something like this:

 

"It sounds like Daft Punk collaborated with each of the (contributing) artists on their own albums/releases.  Then, all those tracks were put together in a compilation called Random Access Memories.  Daft Punk seem to be more in the background and the collaborators are in the spotlight."

 

Having said that, I don't think that necessarily makes it a bad album, just a very different approach for them.  I like that they can do that, and I like disco-influenced music.  There are some strong moments, like the second half of track 3, tracks 8-9 and tracks 12-13.  The end is phenomenal on the HE-400, there is no doubt about that.  The rest will have to grow on me I suppose, but I feel there is a bit of awkwardness in the first half of the album.  I still recommend people check it out!

Being an EDM head, I'm going to have to try this album out -- but I can't stand Daft Punk. I'm the stereotypical hate-it-because-everyone-else-loves-it kind of person in this regard. I find that Daft Punk relies far too heavily on samples. Of course, when they got started, this was the norm for electronica. I really didn't dislike their single off this album, but it certainly doesn't deserve the #1 spot on Beatport IMO. I guess I'll have to give this new album a listen -- especially since the Tron album was by far my favorite of theirs.

post #10538 of 20000
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post

Being an EDM head, I'm going to have to try this album out -- but I can't stand Daft Punk. I'm the stereotypical hate-it-because-everyone-else-loves-it kind of person in this regard. I find that Daft Punk relies far too heavily on samples. Of course, when they got started, this was the norm for electronica. I really didn't dislike their single off this album, but it certainly doesn't deserve the #1 spot on Beatport IMO. I guess I'll have to give this new album a listen -- especially since the Tron album was by far my favorite of theirs.

Gotta say, I respect the hell out of you for admitting your reasons for disliking them.

post #10539 of 20000
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

For me, the album is the one they've always wanted to do: an honest tribute to Italo disco. And in that vein, it's perfect. Then again, every Daft Punk album for me has always been "great track, great track, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, great track" or something to that effect.

 

The great tracks this time around are Giorgio by Murder, Lose Yourself to Dance and Contact. Man that closer is way too good.

 

Im not too fond of Contact, it starts off well but loses it's way at the end imo. My favs would have to be Give Life back to music, the game of love, giorgio by morodor, and doin' it right. 

 

Either way the album sounds awesome on the HE-400. Great bass presence, seperation, and not too bright. I just wish the CD version was mastered as well as the LP.

post #10540 of 20000
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Originally Posted by MrMateoHead View Post

Lol. The "Sennheiser veil" is totally real, in IMHO, and reflects the compromise between listening comfort / accuracy that is made with the Senns I have tried so far (and I have tried a few low-higher end).

 

With Audio, it is usually nice to have phones that have 'too much this' or 'too much that', because it is easier to EQ down than it is to get sounds that they cannot reproduce well. Especially in a computer environment, 31 band EQs, parametric, etc give you lots of tweaking ability.

 

I find the "fun factor" of the HE-400 to be related more to its transparency, its attack, its bass texture, and its broadband response along with its magical ability to seem like it is never working hard. This is very different than claiming a "V Shaped response" (which I would argue it DOES NOT have unless you center that V around, say, 2-4 Khz). The HE-400 are essentially flat with de-emphasized upper mids/treble that are the frequencies that can tend to blare (to my ears anyway). I think that the fatigue I experience at times is derivative more of bass response/pressure (which can be pretty intense), as opposed to peaky treble, which is usually just right to my ears (as in present, but not overly forward).

 

All I know is if I could afford it, I would own a lot more Planar's! Speakers and Phones.

I would agree that your description is more accurate than claiming v-shaped response, the 'dip' would be much more broad in that regard meaning more of a de-emphasis to the whole mid range.  Also in regarding EQing down, which I find they respond well to with a good EQ tool.  

 

I definitely agree with your statement that they work oh-so effortlessly - that planar presentation definitely hooks you!

post #10541 of 20000
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

 

Im not too fond of Contact, it starts off well but loses it's way at the end imo. My favs would have to be Give Life back to music, the game of love, giorgio by morodor, and doin' it right. 

 

Either way the album sounds awesome on the HE-400. Great bass presence, seperation, and not too bright. I just wish the CD version was mastered as well as the LP.

Yeah the CD is brickwalled. Unfortunately, I don't own a vinyl rig and the 24-bit rip out in the wild right now isn't that great as far as they go. You're the first one I've found to not like Contact!

post #10542 of 20000
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

Yeah the CD is brickwalled. Unfortunately, I don't own a vinyl rig and the 24-bit rip out in the wild right now isn't that great as far as they go. You're the first one I've found to not like Contact!

 

Haha the first time I played through the album and finally reached the last song, I was expecting so much from it but felt disappointed. 

 

Anyway the CD is brickwalled yeah, but it still maintains some DR and still sounds great imo.

post #10543 of 20000

From my experience none of the planar magnetics seem to be working hard (this is the HE-400, 500 and LCD2). They all play music so effortless and with an amazing attack, and I suppose that is part of the planar magic.

 

If it wasn't for the elevated treble, I would recommend the HE-400 to anyone who likes very fast paced metal and the like. Those planars simply slaughters and chops up the tracks, where some other headphones seem to sound like a mess.


Edited by davidsh - 5/16/13 at 1:48pm
post #10544 of 20000
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

For me, the album is the one they've always wanted to do: an honest tribute to Italo disco. And in that vein, it's perfect. Then again, every Daft Punk album for me has always been "great track, great track, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, great track" or something to that effect.

 

Could not agree more, unfortunately most albums only have a couple of great songs. If there's an album where I like more than half of its songs, I immediately buy the album.

I'm afraid the whole itunes store generation is only going to make this worse. Good thing I never liked pop/top 40 music... I hope pirating music will actually improve the quality of music, since it's so easy to (p)review albums before buying them.

post #10545 of 20000

Hi

So I'm getting my HE-400 pretty soon and I wanted to ask you all a question. I need a USB DAC for around 150 dollars. I currently own Fiio e11 amp but because my source atm is a very, indeed very shi**y laptop I need something to improve it. Could you maybe suggest something that would work well with the E11 itself?

 

Thanks in advance for your help

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