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post #10441 of 17595
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

I mod fairly slowly and carefully so I would say per pair of pads, it takes me 40 mins to do Part 1, 10 mins to do Part 2, probably upwards to an hour to do Part 3 (I'm terrible at sewing), and 5 mins to do Part 4. So in total about 2 hours with no breaks. If they are done in bulk, that could be cut down to 1h30m maybe, not sure though.

 

In terms of material costs, it's close to nothing (tape you can get in dollar stores, and scissors you would have already) more than the pads themselves.

 

So in that sense then if this is to be made into a legitimately profitable venture, payment for around 2 hours of fairly taxing work would be fair - something around 50-70$ (on top of the customer paying for round shipping costs, and for the pleather pads + velour pads, ofc) depending on the modder's expertise, efficiency, and greed. Lol.


Which makes me wonder how much the Chinese persons making these headphones earn by the hour . . .

 

No offense but I wouldn't pay anyone 25-35 dollars an hour for custom pads. I would, however, pay an extra 25 bucks for a better headband and softer pads for the HE-400s by default.

 

Given that I am fairly certain I don't want my leather pads, I will probably eventually 'mod' them just for the sake of discovering whether there is a worthwhile improvement in sound or not.

post #10442 of 17595
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Originally Posted by MrMateoHead View Post


Which makes me wonder how much the Chinese persons making these headphones earn by the hour . . .

 

No offense but I wouldn't pay anyone 25-35 dollars an hour for custom pads. I would, however, pay an extra 25 bucks for a better headband and softer pads for the HE-400s by default.

 

Given that I am fairly certain I don't want my leather pads, I will probably eventually 'mod' them just for the sake of discovering whether there is a worthwhile improvement in sound or not.

 

Dude, making custom things by hand is a whole different story from a company having the funds to automate and outsource manufacturing and components. Just stating the cold hard facts regarding how things go in enthusiast hobbies. I'd love it if Hifiman decides to revamp their earpads and make them achieve what modded pads could achieve, and sell em for $30 or 40. Who wouldn't want better consistency + assurance that replacement service is reliable, all for cheaper?

post #10443 of 17595
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

 

Dude, making custom things by hand is a whole different story from a company having the funds to automate and outsource manufacturing and components. Just stating the cold hard facts regarding how things go in enthusiast hobbies. I'd love it if Hifiman decides to revamp their earpads and make them achieve what modded pads could achieve, and sell em for $30 or 40. Who wouldn't want better consistency + assurance that replacement service is reliable, all for cheaper?


You should present the idea to Dr. Fang and send him a pair of jergpads. Maybe he likes it and start producing and selling them in large-scale.

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Thread Starter 

^^ Not a bad idea really. +1

post #10445 of 17595
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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post


You should present the idea to Dr. Fang and send him a pair of jergpads. Maybe he likes it and start producing and selling them in large-scale.

Definitely a good proposition!  There's already data to back up jergs findings and results, plus some success stories...I'm sure he'd appreciate it!  This weekend became very busy for me last minute, but I'll get around to trying my hand at them next week hopefully.

post #10446 of 17595
Thread Starter 

Jerg...you might contact Mark Lawton. I started a similar project but it fell through. Let me know if you're interested. Just an option.

post #10447 of 17595

I'd rather not reach out to any of these guys myself, as it would seem like too much of a try-hard move. If a good number of you actually do the mod AND are impressed with the results, then collectively you could do some petition thread, that'd be the most legitimizing method for getting peeps like Fang or professional modders to consider things.

post #10448 of 17595

Dr. Fang is mostly likely very aware of the Jerg Pads. He keeps a close eye on Head-Fi threads and it would have been impossible to miss. He probably had someone in the company actually do the mod, or maybe not. Not sure.normal_smile%20.gif (Either way he probably has new projects he's working. Fine tuning the HE-400/500 through pad modification is probably not high up in his priorities.)

 

I agree with Jerg in that this should be purely left in the DIY realm of things.

post #10449 of 17595
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

I'd rather not reach out to any of these guys myself, as it would seem like too much of a try-hard move. If a good number of you actually do the mod AND are impressed with the results, then collectively you could do some petition thread, that'd be the most legitimizing method for getting peeps like Fang or professional modders to consider things.


Not a bad idea. I'd support it wink.gif

post #10450 of 17595

The HFM pads are pretty much 100% identical to my super cheap price Superlux $40 headphones pads side-by-side which leads me to believe they are not made specifically for HFM's.


Edited by Lohb - 5/10/13 at 11:18pm
post #10451 of 17595

To those that use the 400 with the Lyr:

 

Is the burn-in effect for real for the Lyr ? Meaning, as I use the Lyr more frequently, I notice that, to my ears, an expansion in the overall sound in the 400; everything seems to open up, the sound has become more detailed and what's even better, I am not increasing the volume knob on the Lyr (used to be at 11 o'clock, now closer to 9).

post #10452 of 17595

Not sure if anyone else has this problem, but I have a lot of curly hair and wearing headphones for a long period, will flatten the hair.

Split headbands are really a good solution, so a split headband mod would be pretty awesome for the HE400.

 

The downside would be that it's irreversible, and finding the right headband would be pretty tough I recon.

post #10453 of 17595

I posted in the HD650 thread saying that I prefer the HE400's because they are easy to drive, and some over there have mentioned that the HD650's can still sound good from a portable amp. I'm here trying to get both sides of the story before pulling the trigger lol.

 

According to David Mahler, the HE400's can sound good even out of an iPod. I'm sure that they will still sound better out of an CMoyBB or something similar. I mentioned the CMoyBB because someone said the HD650's sound fine coming out of those. However, David Mahler also said that the HE400's sound good from an E17, while the HD650's do not.

 

So I guess what I'm trying to ask is, what is better:

iPod Classic 7G --> CMoyBB --> HD650

or

iPod Classic 7G --> CMoyBB (or E17) --> HE400

 

Also, I noticed how the CMoyBB is an amp, while the E17 is an amp/DAC. Am I missing out on a lot by getting an amp instead of an amp/DAC? Additionally, I plan on getting the DragonFly to listen to music on my cpu. Without a desktop amp, is that still efficient with either of these cans?

 

Thanks in advance guys

post #10454 of 17595

No reason to get the e17 if you are getting the dragonfly too. You can't use the e17 DAC with the ipod anyway...

post #10455 of 17595
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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

Not sure if anyone else has this problem, but I have a lot of curly hair and wearing headphones for a long period, will flatten the hair.

Split headbands are really a good solution, so a split headband mod would be pretty awesome for the HE400.

 

The downside would be that it's irreversible, and finding the right headband would be pretty tough I recon.


Many women would love to have that "problem".

 

I could see HFM marketing it to appeal to the female consumer biggrin.gif

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