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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I live with the "hiss" in my ears 24/7 and I would wish it on anyone. 

 

You may want to revise that statement wink.gif Unless you really do wish tinnitus on people eek.gif

post #10067 of 18317
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

Hemipowered, you should try downloading sineGen and see if you can hear high frequencies properly. At your age you should be able to detect frequencies up to some 18kHz


At higher frequencies the gain needs to be higher tho (ie higher volume to hear higher frequencies)


Edited by musiclife - 4/29/13 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

 

You may want to revise that statement wink.gif Unless you really do wish tinnitus on people eek.gif

 

Woops...sorry. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. 

post #10069 of 18317

No need apologize man Im just playing.

post #10070 of 18317
On my shures, +6 at 35 is good, at 0 gain, 43 is good. And on those no treble boost. The reason I boosted the treble on the he400 is because its such clean treble and I enjoyed hearing it all. It doesn't mean I'm not hearing something, I just enjoy a little brightness. I've also heard from another member that planars may have a characteristic of not sounding loud. If that makes any sense to anyone. Maybe I'm just getting used to how planars sound. I seriously doubt I have any hearing loss at all, now if I continue at 45 on the he400s, ya I can do damage. I get that. But 40 on 12 gain really isn't this drastic explosion of sound everyone here seems to think it is, maybe others ears are overly sensitive. Because I had a second person listen to them at 40, and they agreed it was average volume, not to high, not to low.
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^How much does it leak? Have you tried a sine generator? 

 

I can tell you that 45 on my fiio with my HE-500 is LOUD and very loud. It will, in time, damage your hearing on my setup.

 

Hearing damage is something to respect if you value your hearing. Even if you don't, because tinnitus can be a hell from what I have heard. 


Edited by davidsh - 4/25/13 at 8:31am
post #10073 of 18317
Look, I'm not going to drag this on anymore until I can put the fiio on my desktop, which I can't until friday. At that point I can also get my wife to help verify volume levels. She has pretty sensitive ears so that will help. Until then, I'm going to shutup as I'm sure I'm annoying people here.
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

^How much does it leak? Have you tried a sine generator? 

 

I can tell you that 45 on my fiio with my HE-500 is LOUD and very loud. It will, in time, damage your hearing on my setup.

 

Hearing damage is something to respect if you value your hearing. Even if you don't, because tinnitus can be a hell from what I have heard. 

How do the He-500's compare to the He-400's, and the Ultrasone 780's?

post #10075 of 18317

No I get it -

 

The HE-400 sound so good I also have a hard time NOT hitting 12 O'Clock on the O2, which is where things get quite loud. The things are like a sports car - they urge me to push a little harder. It has been much easier to stay at low volume on less awesome phones.

 

I am wondering what Hemi's normal listening environment is like, also. My main listening areas are close to coffin quiet, making it easier to stay at low power.

 

When people take their phones to the gym / work, ambient noise is a much bigger problem, and loud volumes more likely.

post #10076 of 18317

For people still interested in buying the alpha pads for the HE-400: don't.

 

After some critical listening to the HE-400 and the alpha pads it's obvious that these are a bad pairing. Atleast compared to tthe J$ and HE-400.
This pairing sounds extremely dull,snare drums lose their bite and voices sound muddy. These pads completely lack damping holes, this probably causes many of these problems.

I just spend €80 on them so if there would be a placebo effect I would love them right now. But I don't, I hope they work better on some bright closed headphones I have.

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Originally Posted by semaj8james View Post

How do the He-500's compare to the He-400's, and the Ultrasone 780's?

HE-500 - Natural, warm-ish, a bit relaxed, smooth sound. Despite it being relaxed I see them as very fast, they can always keep up with music. Wide sound stage, though not deep. Not so good center stage. Vocals seem a bit smeared in front of you. Very good imaging, though.

 

HE-400 - More 'expressive' bass, not as relaxed, nor smooth, but still not agressive. Fast. Metallic treble, very detailed, but uniform. Sound stage and imaging is pretty much the same as HE-500.

 

Ultrasone hfi-780 - Bass is fairly punchy, does not extend deep. Bass is fairly smooth (not textured), but is also fairly tight. Vocals are quite forward, treble sound a bit artificial and can be annoying at times.  Fairly detailed, but seems kind of slow at times, not good at handling layered music. Fairly good imaging. Deep sound stage, which is nice, though it is not wide. Can seem a bit cramped at times, because it is not wide. Contributes to the feeling that it is not good at handling layered music. 

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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

For people still interested in buying the alpha pads for the HE-400: don't.

After some critical listening to the HE-400 and the alpha pads it's obvious that these are a bad pairing. Atleast compared to tthe J$ and HE-400.

This pairing sounds extremely dull,snare drums lose their bite and voices sound muddy. These pads completely lack damping holes, this probably causes many of these problems.
I just spend €80 on them so if there would be a placebo effect I would love them right now. But I don't, I hope they work better on some bright closed headphones I have.

Some cold, hard, truth. Thank you for the honesty, and not letting placebo rule your impression. First time on this thread where a new pad didn't blow the prior pads away.
post #10079 of 18317

I am still on the fence about the alpha pads on the HE-400 myself, but it's certainly not a stark difference from the j$ as far as I can tell aside from comfort.  I expect most opinions to be just that, and I try to be as honest as possible with my impressions...I'm no expert, though.  There are some that have tried them on the HE-4, HE-5LE and HE-500 and liked the pairing (more so on the older HE series because they are brighter overall) and some that didn't - to each his own.  Just like any other modification, I can expect it won't be preferable for everyone, but the only way to know for sure is to try it.  One should also take equipment (amp, dac, etc.) into consideration as well, as it may have a more notable impact on the sound between different mods like changing pads.

post #10080 of 18317

Woop woop! First pass on these. Candy pink for my fiancee'!

 

 

Got more pics if anybody is interested. I'll be painting my HE-400 pretty soon after getting it right with the HE-300 as pictured.

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