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post #10051 of 18673

and the treble, oh man I love the treble, I have it at plus 4 on the e17, the detail there is magnificent, a little metallic yes but oh man,the detail in the high end is insane. SO the growth and love affair has begun tonight.

post #10052 of 18673

well, i tried 30 for a while, its listenable but just not fun. Ill retrain my ears for a bit. Because other than the low hours of listening to headphones i actual get , I dont have any other loud listening or noise going on. So maybe i just enjoy Loud for a half hour at a time, Hopefully thats not that bad.

post #10053 of 18673

You might go to a doctor to get your ears cleaned out.

post #10054 of 18673

Ya, probably, Im sure its been 20 years!

post #10055 of 18673

Is the Magni/Modi amp/dac combo connected to the mpb with the he-400+velour pads recommended?

Waiting for the magni/modi to arrive but shock to read from headphonia that he-400 and magni/modi might not work together very well confused_face(1).gif

post #10056 of 18673

Prior to getting the magni/modi combo for he-400 I was planning to get the fiio e 17 or e 12 plus a cheap dac. Did I make a mistake not getting the fiio or not. BTW im using the he-400 at home only. So only sound quality matters and portability does not matter to me.

post #10057 of 18673
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Originally Posted by Chawanwit View Post

Prior to getting the magni/modi combo for he-400 I was planning to get the fiio e 17 or e 12 plus a cheap dac. Did I make a mistake not getting the fiio or not. BTW im using the he-400 at home only. So only sound quality matters and portability does not matter to me.

Reason I ask this is because it seems that fiio e17 seems to get better recommendation with the he-400 than the magni/modi combo but it could be because I did find many comments about the mm combo with the he-400.

post #10058 of 18673
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post

Awe cmon thats no fun! Im at 44 on the fiio, is that really that bad? for what its worth its plenty loud on most tracks, probably a little to loud. If im at 40 and thats comfortable, do you really think ive already damaged my ears? Maybe be ear canals are just weird....But, I bet I am doing damage, I can help it i Love LOUD, especially when Its a clear non-distorted loud, 

 

Do you need gain 12 for your other headphones? If yes, your hearing has been severely damaged.

If no, there is still a chance your HE-400 is defective.

post #10059 of 18673
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Originally Posted by BenF View Post

 

Do you need gain 12 for your other headphones? If yes, your hearing has been severely damaged.

If no, there is still a chance your HE-400 is defective.

HE400 on E17 with +12 gain at 40 or so vol, IMO, is damaging to the hearing but is definitely tolerable for certain music genres that sound best when they are blasted loud, at least temporarily (for a few minutes).

 

My guess is Hemi has a combination of moderate hearing loss and preference for loud music (the two go hand-in-hand), hence this fiasco.

 

 

The biggest giveaway, Hemi, that you have hearing loss, is the fact that you enjoy the HE400 more when you have the Treble EQ on E17 turned to +4. Treble sensitivity is always the first to be "lost" when one's hearing deteriorates significantly, so to compensate, you have to really jack up the treble levels in order to perceive similar treble amount as healthy hearing.


Edited by jerg - 4/25/13 at 3:27am
post #10060 of 18673
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Originally Posted by Chawanwit View Post

Is the Magni/Modi amp/dac combo connected to the mpb with the he-400+velour pads recommended?
Waiting for the magni/modi to arrive but shock to read from headphonia that he-400 and magni/modi might not work together very well confused_face(1).gif
The M/M combo should work fine with the 400. Having said that, all of our opinions are just that, opinions. You need to experiment with the set up that makes your listening a near-optimal one. That's what makes this hobby addicting and wallet-slimming and we're glad to be of assistance 😄
post #10061 of 18673
Hemipowered, you should try downloading sineGen and see if you can hear high frequencies properly. At your age you should be able to detect frequencies up to some 18kHz
post #10062 of 18673

Also, I want to point out, that even 30/60 isn't a good volume. It is reasonable, but I am positive that it is loud-ish too, probably around some 85-90 dB depending on what you listen to and such, I'd say it is JUST around where hearing damage, if you listen for extended time every day, would be possible...

 

For me 23-25 (+12dB gain) on the fiio with the HE-500 is mostly plenty loud. 30 is loud, and from there on they start to behave like laptop speakers.


Edited by davidsh - 4/25/13 at 6:06am
post #10063 of 18673
Thread Starter 

I feel that it's important to be a responsible listener. When you're younger it easy to have the "invincible" syndrome. I know that I was guilty of it. But once you develop tinnitus you'll have to live with it for the rest of your life and the wonderful intimate world of listening to your favorite music on your favorite headphones will be forever changed. I live with the "hiss" in my ears 24/7 and I would wish it on anyone. 

 

So be careful hemipowered. It may be that you're not listening as loud as I think because of some gear malfunction. But just be cautious and protect your hearing. 

post #10064 of 18673

If you can tell us how much they leak, it would be a good thing.

post #10065 of 18673
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Originally Posted by Chawanwit View Post

Reason I ask this is because it seems that fiio e17 seems to get better recommendation with the he-400 than the magni/modi combo but it could be because I did find many comments about the mm combo with the he-400.

I have the Asgard at my home setup (use the Fiio E17 optical as dac in this case) and i use the Fiio E17 when i use the HE-400 on the move.

 

Now, the reasons i went for the asgard:

 

-Its what Schitt actually recomeds for those

-Its a solid state amp (call me crazy, but i think solid state will give you a much controled signal than a diferent amp).

-I had the chance to try it before buying it.

 

The fiio is noticibly worse (the soundstage feels akward at times, the detail dies sometimes), but over all, its quite good.

 

I have not tried the M&M so cant say there, but i did try the valhalla on the HE-400 A/B with the asgard, and the valhalla simply did not have the juice to drive the HE-400, and im not talking here only about the volume, but also about the Dynamics.

 

I am planning to A/B a Bifrost with my setup to know if its worth the upgrade, but ill need to leave it till after my sisters wedding (saving for that now).

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