well, finally got some time to check things out, some how there was some replay gain settings tinkered with in foobar, i never touched them but reset everything to 0. Didnt make a big volume difference, Guess I am a loud freak after all, everything in windows7 volume wise is correct, same as foobar, and i have these at 38 on the fiio at +12, im blasting some meshuggah and could easily goto 42 or 45. All in all, they sound alot better than they did last night, I think i was to tired, but at 30 on volume still, no way I could enjoy music that low on volume, even slower music. I think part of this problem lies in the fact that ive always liked that deafining feel i get from live concerts, Ill try and listen to music for an entire night at 30 though, since i think i owe it to my ears, im only 29, I need these things to last another 25 years. But getting back to the he400, I definitely can hear how fast these are, the detail and imaging listening to prog metal, is something i will grow to demand in an HP, the insturment separation is there. There is some mid recession here that I dont like, but i think pad mods may give me a different feel, since if i gently pull the cups away from my head about an inch, I get more lower mids in there. By the way, what the heck is going on with the pleathers! sweating after 5 minutes! My shure pleathers hardly ever do that! Time to get down and dirty and put on the velours! Thanks to everyone on here at head-fi, im going to get back to my whiskey and music for a bit.