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^A surround sound emulator pretty much. For headphones....

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http://www.head-fi.org/t/660276/headamp-orders-10-donated-to-help-boston-marathon-victims-until-end-of-april

Those planning on buying the HE-400... if you're interested in helping others, Headamp has a thing where all purchases will give 10% to charity for the next few days. That's pretty swell, if you ask me.
post #10038 of 18083
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

I don't like soundstage discussion in general.

AD700's in particular doesn't really impress me as much as it's hyped up to be.  I mean yeah I remember when I first got the HE-400, it was noticeably smaller than the AD700.  But when putitng on the AD700 after listening to the HE-400 I don't go 'wow, this is so big and awesome!'

The only time I find the AD700's soundstage ridiculously huge is with dolby headphone, and at that point it's leagues ahead of everything else with dh in terms of size.

This. Soundstage in basic stereo form isn't as important as people make it out to be. As long as a headphone isn't utterly rubbish and closed sounding, a medium sized soundstage isn't much different from a large one. It's when you start using virtual surround emulation like Dolby Headphone that soundstage size really starts standing out.

I find imaging to be much more important in giving a sense of space and dimensionality. Both things which planar magnetics excel in even with moderate soundstage sizes.
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Thread Starter 

^^ +1 biggrin.gif very commendable. 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

^^ +1 biggrin.gif
 very commendable. 

I know you're referring to the charity stuff, but it's funny how I beat you with another post. XD
post #10041 of 18083

Just received a set of HE-400s that I got off the FS forum and so far I am very impressed!! The bass is better than I really expected, even though everything I've read has stated that the bass on these is good - it's just so damn smooth and thick!!

 

The mids are a just a tad recessed, but not bad, and the treble is perfect (for my ears).

 

Compared to my LCD-3s and LCD-2s, I am quite impressed with the HE-400 - just need to add some Denon pads and maybe an custom cable (not that the stock Camare sounds bad - I just prefer a clothe covered cable).

 

So far, I'm liking the sound sig from yhr HE-400 much better than the HE-500. Is that odd???

 

LB

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Anyone running their HFM through the Matrix m-stage Headphone Amplifier class A ? I see there is also an option for replaceable opamps....

 

Burr Brown OPA627AP with Class A Biasing Mod

Burr Brown OPA627BP with Class A Biasing Mod 

Burr Brown OPA637AP with Class A Biasing Mod 

Burr Brown OPA637BP with Class A Biasing Mod 

 

I'm not sure which would be the best pairing with the HFM's.

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I find imaging to be much more important in giving a sense of space and dimensionality. Both things which planar magnetics excel in even with moderate soundstage sizes.

I discovered this as well when comparing the HE400 to the Beyer 880 600ohm.  Even though the Beyer's soundstage seemed wider, the HE400 seems to have better imaging.  This was most apparent on Backstreet Boys' I Want It That Way (yes I listen to Backstreet Boys).  

 

How's the 702.65's imaging compare to the HE400?

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Originally Posted by orrb_05 View Post

Just received a set of HE-400s that I got off the FS forum and so far I am very impressed!! The bass is better than I really expected, even though everything I've read has stated that the bass on these is good - it's just so damn smooth and thick!!

 

The mids are a just a tad recessed, but not bad, and the treble is perfect (for my ears).

 

Compared to my LCD-3s and LCD-2s, I am quite impressed with the HE-400 - just need to add some Denon pads and maybe an custom cable (not that the stock Camare sounds bad - I just prefer a clothe covered cable).

 

So far, I'm liking the sound sig from yhr HE-400 much better than the HE-500. Is that odd???

 

LB

 



From what I read, stay away from pure silver cables. Unless I'm wrong, you'll lose bass depth and magnify treble brightness ? But then the other camp in the cable debate say cables make no difference....

post #10045 of 18083
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Originally Posted by Limniscate View Post

I discovered this as well when comparing the HE400 to the Beyer 880 600ohm.  Even though the Beyer's soundstage seemed wider, the HE400 seems to have better imaging.  This was most apparent on Backstreet Boys' I Want It That Way (yes I listen to Backstreet Boys).  

How's the 702.65's imaging compare to the HE400?

The HE400 has better imaging. Something about the way it places sounds that stands out. The K702 65 has fantastic soundstage for gaming and all, but I haven't heard anything that does imaging like planar magnetics.

In either case, like soundstage, I dont put much stock in imaging when listening to music. I find most headphones worth their grain in salt to de a good enough job for me.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/24/13 at 8:25pm
post #10046 of 18083

well, finally got some time to check things out, some how there was some replay gain settings tinkered with in foobar, i never touched them but reset everything to 0. Didnt make a big volume difference, Guess I am a loud freak after all, everything in windows7 volume wise is correct, same as foobar, and i have these at 38 on the fiio at +12, im blasting some meshuggah and could easily goto 42 or 45.  All in all, they sound alot better than they did last night, I think i was to tired, but at 30 on volume still, no way I could enjoy music that low on volume, even slower music. I think part of this problem lies in the fact that ive always liked that deafining feel i get from live concerts, Ill try and listen to music for an entire night at 30 though, since i think i owe it to my ears, im only 29, I need these things to last another 25 years. But getting back to the he400, I definitely can hear how fast these are, the detail and imaging listening to prog metal, is something i will grow to demand in an HP, the insturment separation is there. There is some mid recession here that I dont like, but i think pad mods may give me a different feel, since if i gently pull the cups away from my head about an inch, I get more lower mids in there. By the way, what the heck is going on with the pleathers! sweating after 5 minutes! My shure pleathers hardly ever do that! Time to get down and dirty and put on the velours! Thanks to everyone on here at head-fi, im going to get back to my whiskey and music for a bit.

post #10047 of 18083
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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post

well, finally got some time to check things out, some how there was some replay gain settings tinkered with in foobar, i never touched them but reset everything to 0. Didnt make a big volume difference, Guess I am a loud freak after all, everything in windows7 volume wise is correct, same as foobar, and i have these at 38 on the fiio at +12, im blasting some meshuggah and could easily goto 42 or 45.  All in all, they sound alot better than they did last night, I think i was to tired, but at 30 on volume still, no way I could enjoy music that low on volume, even slower music. I think part of this problem lies in the fact that ive always liked that deafining feel i get from live concerts, Ill try and listen to music for an entire night at 30 though, since i think i owe it to my ears, im only 29, I need these things to last another 25 years. But getting back to the he400, I definitely can hear how fast these are, the detail and imaging listening to prog metal, is something i will grow to demand in an HP, the insturment separation is there. There is some mid recession here that I dont like, but i think pad mods may give me a different feel, since if i gently pull the cups away from my head about an inch, I get more lower mids in there. By the way, what the heck is going on with the pleathers! sweating after 5 minutes! My shure pleathers hardly ever do that! Time to get down and dirty and put on the velours! Thanks to everyone on here at head-fi, im going to get back to my whiskey and music for a bit.

Judging by everything, I'd have to regrettably say that your hearing functions have already deteriorated a lot. Definitely some very strict music volume self-restrictions need to be imposed here if you don't want your hearing to just boil away in the coming years.

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I was listening to my headphone about two hours ago and I started to hear some crackling noise off and on, and then it started to cut off and on.  I stopped the music right away and check out the headphones.  To my surprise, my right earcup wire got unscrewed for the first time very_evil_smiley.gif

 

I can't believe that it happened as I check it almost everyday before I put it on, it just happens that today I didn't check because I was working at home and decided to listen to some music.  I never thought it would happen after hearing others mentioning, but there you go it happened. Went to go get a pair of flat nose plier right away to tightened slightly as the first time I screwed by hand.

 

Any how, placed the headphone back on and it was on for work. I'm still stunt on the HE400 imaging ability and really everything about it.

I am also one of the people who doesn't get bothered by it's treble.

post #10049 of 18083

Awe cmon thats no fun! Im at 44 on the fiio, is that really that bad? for what its worth its plenty loud on most tracks, probably a little to loud. If im at 40 and thats comfortable, do you really think ive already damaged my ears? Maybe be ear canals are just weird....But, I bet I am doing damage, I can help it i Love LOUD, especially when Its a clear non-distorted loud, 

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Originally Posted by hemipowered007 View Post

Awe cmon thats no fun! Im at 44 on the fiio, is that really that bad? for what its worth its plenty loud on most tracks, probably a little to loud. If im at 40 and thats comfortable, do you really think ive already damaged my ears? Maybe be ear canals are just weird....But, I bet I am doing damage, I can help it i Love LOUD, especially when Its a clear non-distorted loud, 

Yes, 100% you've undoubtedly accumulated considerable hearing deteriorating by now, judging my what an "enjoyable listening volume" to you is.

 

It's not so much that you prefer loud music (lots of people do), but rather having music that loud over a number of years will accumulate damage with your auditory functions, by default.

 

I could rock out to 40/60 +12gain on the E17 too, but if I do it would only be for a few minutes at the most.

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