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post #211 of 253
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400$ for a portable amp?... not for me
Inviato dal mio HTC Sensation con Tapatalk 2

Bought my TTVJ Slim used, sold for $300, sold my FiiO for $125, you bought the Pico DAC/amp for $350 used. Walked out with $75 in my pocket smily_headphones1.gif.

Also this isn't just a portable amp I'm talking about. This is USB output AND HUGE voltage swing, yet neutral amping. Well worth the switch for me smily_headphones1.gif

Kojaku
post #212 of 253

R: Good news about Android phone supports digital audio output

Which dac amp to replace my fiio in the same price range that might work with my smartphone did you suggest at the moment? Thanks

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post #213 of 253
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Which dac amp to replace my fiio in the same price range that might work with my smartphone did you suggest at the moment? Thanks
Inviato dal mio HTC Sensation con Tapatalk 2

Getting the right DAC/amp is only half of the answer. Are you 100% certain your smartphone has the proper USB host audio driver to work with external USB DAC?
post #214 of 253

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Originally Posted by _mouse_ View Post

Which dac amp to replace my fiio in the same price range that might work with my smartphone did you suggest at the moment? Thanks
Inviato dal mio HTC Sensation con Tapatalk 2

Getting the right DAC/amp is only half of the answer. Are you 100% certain your smartphone has the proper USB host audio driver to work with external USB DAC?
First thanks for your great support.
Honestly I'm not sure of this, but reading this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29911384 on xda it seems that my phone cannot give power to the USB device.

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post #215 of 253
A Samsung Galaxy S III  interworks with a USB DAC/amp FiiO E7:
 
Samsung Galaxy S III > digital audio stream >> USB OTG cable (Micro-A plug inserted in the S III) >> FiiO E7 >> Westone UM3X
 
 

 


Edited by DanBa - 8/28/12 at 9:15am
post #216 of 253

It's great that this thing is happening with android and usb out, thanks to people on this thread and the like...

 

But, meaning no offense, is it worth using a fiio e7 from the s3. Does it improve the sound?? My samsung sgs voodoo easily beats the fiio e7 in both amping and dac areas. E7 ain't great at all. 

post #217 of 253

Can't seem to find a definite response to this :

Anyone with a Galaxy Note successfully using it with a (desktop) USB DAC, or amp with a USB DAC? My Meier Cantate.2's USB DAC is powered off its own power supply so I just need data, no power necessary. Bonus if it has a dock to keep it upright or something (like the lineout dock for the the first Galaxy S, which I have).

 

Considering an upgrade while there's a good deal for our family phone/data plan, and despite the larger SIII over the standard S I still prefer the size of the Note for my hand.

post #218 of 253
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But, meaning no offense, is it worth using a fiio e7 from the s3. Does it improve the sound?? 

 

 

Apparently yes, according to the Google translation:

http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2F5i01.com%2Ftopicdetail.php%3Ff%3D568%26t%3D2770200%26p%3D1

 

"Yesterday I received fiio e7 .

Otg plug usb ..... bingo, can really yeah .

Sound three thousand early head be regarded as good value for money ..

Connected directly to usb dac, obviously you can feel the sound separation, intensity and s / n ratio than s3 Direct Push um3x good .."

 

SGS3 player > internal DAC > internal amp >> Westone UM3X

is inferior to

same SGS3 player >> external FiiO E7 DAC > external  FiiO E7 amp >> same Westone UM3X

 

 

 

 

 

The guy has also compared a FiiO E7-based S3 rig to an iBasso D12 Hj-based S3 rig:

"3.3k vs 12.9k, this price gap, or the performance differences of the sound ..

Of course, not four times the gap, but both ab test can still clearly hear d12hj lies in the high-frequency texture, separation and strength, the sense of space and high on a chip .."

 

SGS3 player >> external FiiO E7 DAC > external  FiiO E7 amp >> Westone UM3X

is inferior to

same SGS3 player >> external iBasso D12 Hj DAC > external  iBasso D12 Hj amp >> same Westone UM3X

or

to his ears the USB DAC/amp FiiO E7 is inferior to the USB DAC/amp iBasso D12 Hj in a SGS3–Westone UM3X context.

 

 

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Originally Posted by CantScareMe View Post

My samsung sgs voodoo easily beats the fiio e7 in both amping and dac areas. E7 ain't great at all. 

 

 

 

Would you rather mean

[SGS player > internal voodoo DAC > internal voodoo amp] >> a given headphone

is superior to

[SGS3 player >> external FiiO E7 DAC > external FiiO E7 amp] >> a same given headphone

where [ ] is a bundle?

 

What is exactly voodoo?

Is voodoo, a software stuff, related to the DAC part of a SGS?:

  stock internal DAC + voodoo => improved internal DAC?

Is voodoo, a software stuff, related to the amp part of a SGS?:

  stock internal amp + voodoo => improved internal amp?

Or

is voodoo related to the player part of a SGS, like Amarra, a third-party audiophile player part of a Mac?

http://www.sonicstudio.com/amarra/amarra_hifi.html

http://www.head-fi.org/t/539740/mac-os-x-music-players-alternatives-to-itunes


Edited by DanBa - 8/29/12 at 12:50pm
post #219 of 253

Oh right. If the fiio e7 is better than the samsung s3 headphone output then the samsung s3 isn't that great to be honest. I don't rate the e7 much at all. 

 

When I say my sgs i9000, I mean this is one complete rig. Nothing supplementary is attached. And this beats the e7 with my headphones when the e7 is a used as a complete rig (with my laptop).

BTW, the e17 is easily superior to both the e7 and the sgs i9000 with voodoo.

 

Voodoo is just a custom kernel developed by adroid developer supercurio that allows for audio reproduction to be completely re-routed, skipping samsungs path to instead follow a more pure and clean path. All it needs is root access and then installation of the kernel. Lastly Installing the app 'voodoo sound' (or voodoo sound plus) lets one control specific features of this implementation. Yea, true, custom roms like darkys and cm9 (I think) come with voodoo sound inbuilt but that's not their main feature. Mine is stock rom (I don't wanna mess around ad infinitum with roms) with this kernel. 

post #220 of 253
So, I take it that TTVJ Slim is not compatible?

What about the HTC One X's usb out?
post #221 of 253

Now my E17 is sold :(

Waiting for Fiio news about the new line ;)
 

post #222 of 253
Thread Starter 

some updated news about Android decoder.

 

1, the Android 4.41 will supports record features which means we may add the talk function into our E18, so you don't need to unplug the headphone and plug to the phone again just for talking. 

 

 

2, we will add some remote control function in the DAC, like the play/stop, preview, next keys.

 

 

3, The Android phone can't be charged in USB audio mode. means we are considering to give up the idea to charge the phone by the DAC build in battery.

 

 

Personally the charging feature in E18 is very important because the android phone's battery can not support heavy used.

post #223 of 253

Great news.

Will you update e17 firmware to work with Android phones using usb ?

post #224 of 253
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by zycker View Post

Great news.

Will you update e17 firmware to work with Android phones using usb ?

 

sorry not, E17's USB receiver chip will consume power from the USB , it is a hardware issue so can't be solved by firmware.

post #225 of 253
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Originally Posted by feiao View Post

 

sorry not, E17's USB receiver chip will consume power from the USB , it is a hardware issue so can't be solved by firmware.

I don't mean to charge an Android phone but just plug the e17 to the phone with usb (via otg cable) and use the e17's dac. We could have better quality than using phone's dac + jack audio cable.

Some guys made it works with Samsung Galaxy S3.

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