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post #106 of 281
4/9/12 at 1:19pm
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It does happen - here is a shining example of a classic snob:

 

http://ravenda.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/headphones_journey/

 


I have yet to read one of these blog entries/rants that has changed my feelings about Head-Fi, audio, the pursuit, etc.  As you pointed out, there are usually major flaws in their argument(s).  And they typically come off sounding resentful that everybody doesn't share their views or everything is not done their way.  Head-Fi is by no means perfect, but neither is democracy; and that is how I view this forum.  Everyone starts with an equal say and then works their way around from there.  If you can't take the time to figure out who's views or ears you share, that's the price for being lazy and not doing your homework.  There is nothing wrong with starting off here and then moving on to a different forum that closer suits your needs.  But the scorched earth tactics that some of these guys use are never persuasive IMO.  I would rather read or hear from those (cooler heads) who stopped using the forum on a more amicable note- of which I think their numbers FAR outweigh those who went away angry.  I'm sure there are a lot more with ASR's sentiments who just don't state them as eloquently as he did.
 
Draining one's wallet and then being angry after looking back on it- I suppose that's one of the dangers of chasing unicorns?
 
All too often people take this stuff far too seriously.  
 
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With the exception of the collectible woodies, I suspect that A-T is often overlooked in the mad dash to orthos/HD800/T1/whatever. I belong to an Aussie board where almost every regular owns the AD900 and its routinely recommended over the AD700 despite the price difference - I kick myself for having resisted the pressure to get a pair of these cans for the first 2 years on the board. Soundstage and detail retrieval are sensational - I know the AD2K is a different headphone but I cant wait to get my hands on a pair. 

 


 

Trying not to derail this thread (sorry), but the first few things I read on the AD2Ks said that they were really expensive and top-tier (in cost)- and such writings were from around 4-5 years ago or before the wave of $1000+ cans.  So I was somewhat 'relieved' to find that that they were only ~$700.  LOL.

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post #107 of 281
4/9/12 at 1:24pm
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I don't know, I think the AD2K is very much an acquired taste.  I've had plenty of access to them and from the five times I've tried to like them they never last more than 15secs.  I'm sure it's just the shape of my ear or something, I dunno.  It's nothing technical like some other phones seem to suffer from, just the signature.

 


It seems that most people who like them will concede that they definitely have their strengths and weaknesses.  I guess it's a combination of what they are hearing (due to perceptions and actual physiological differences), listening material (as pointed out in ASR's post review), and priorities (tonal, soundstage, texture, etc.).


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post #108 of 281
4/9/12 at 1:40pm
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I don't know, I think the AD2K is very much an acquired taste.  I've had plenty of access to them and from the five times I've tried to like them they never last more than 15secs.  I'm sure it's just the shape of my ear or something, I dunno.  It's nothing technical like some other phones seem to suffer from, just the signature.

 


Ok - it must have been Purrin who used them in your combined review of the EC Super 7 - fair enough. 

 

A lot of the complaints about the AD series seem to be around the size of the cups, the wing design and the artificially large soundstage - I admit that I took a while to adjust after the intimacy of various Grado models, but now I find it hard to go back the other way - going from a massive soundstage back to the 'front row' is tough, although its better suited to some of my music. 

 

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post #109 of 281
4/9/12 at 1:50pm
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Reading Head-Fi also definitely feeds the upgraditis bug. 



 

Its like livin' la vida loca.

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post #110 of 281
4/9/12 at 2:23pm
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Its like livin' la vida loca.

It's like? It is.
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post #111 of 281
4/9/12 at 2:56pm

THIS IS GOING TO BE MY GAMING SOUND RIG..the final sound build for the gaming pc every ones battlefield name on the northland chair.jpgBEYER T1 A1 AMP AND REALIZER A8..until i came on head-fi it would have been the headzone game..sorry this ones in english..http://smyth-research.com/products.htmlhttp://blog.hifiheadphones.co.uk/.../beyerdynamic-tesla-t1-and-a1-amplifier...


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post #112 of 281
4/10/12 at 4:51am

A Krell Cipher SACD player, a diy T2, and SR009 sure makes me happy.

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post #113 of 281
4/10/12 at 4:55am
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A Krell Cipher SACD player, a diy T2, and SR009 sure makes me happy.



I couldn't agree more with the krell cypher my friend...

 

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post #114 of 281
4/10/12 at 5:30am
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I'd be more interested in hearing more about Kevin's T2. The rest is available to anyone with a credit rating and sufficient motivation. rolleyes.gif

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post #115 of 281
4/10/12 at 6:25am

I have the first diy T2. It's over 2 years old now. Somewhere between 15 and 25 have been built

so far.

 

LCD2 with supersymmetry balanced dynahi and krell cipher is also a wonderful combo.

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post #116 of 281
4/10/12 at 9:19am

I don't really like the notion of an "end game" in all of this because that would mean I'd have a reason to stop building new amps and "forcing" Kevin to come up with some new designs.  Even though I have both a BHSE and a T2DIY I also see the merit in experimenting with less than stellar designs.  Hell, I'm building what is the worst Stax amp money can buy and hopefully finish the most over the top Blue Hawaii ever built at the same time. 

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post #117 of 281
4/10/12 at 9:42am
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For me it's hd800 and Zana Deux, I love my o2 + KGSS rig but I get the most satisfaction from the hd800.  Everything else is just experimentation or utility for a specific purpose!  Eventually I'll have the GS-X but I've found the Zana to compete well with more expensive offerings thus far - I don't suspect it will get replaced by the GS-X either!


This is exactly what I'm finding too. I enjoy my HD800 + Luxman P-1 rig much more than my O2 + KGSS rig -- I'm hoping the incoming SR-009 will change that, but the amount of hate the HD800 gets here is really odd.
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post #118 of 281
4/10/12 at 9:58am
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This is exactly what I'm finding too. I enjoy my HD800 + Luxman P-1 rig much more than my O2 + KGSS rig -- I'm hoping the incoming SR-009 will change that, but the amount of hate the HD800 gets here is really odd.


Even if I made a T2 and got a 009 or HE90, my HD800 and S7 aren't going anywhere.

 

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post #119 of 281
4/10/12 at 12:21pm
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Guys, its not so much about turfing out headphone A and amp B to make way for headphone C and amp D, its the notion that A, B, C and D (and whatever other letters are in your own alphabet ...) represemt your 'end-game'. Its not even about a particular high-end combo that everyone can agree is 'the best' - one meet report I read featured a post from someone who felt that the DNA Sonett and a pair of modded HD600s would get him off the carousel. Even if you decided to scsle back purely to concentrate on something else in your lives, only poking your heads in here occasionally, I suspect that the next 'big thing' would be very. very hard to resist. I accept that DiY is a slightly different obsession, but not too many people build their own headphones ..... 

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post #120 of 281
4/10/12 at 10:34pm

I enjoy my sub $1k systems as much, at times more than my other systems which cost 10 X more.

 

It's not about gear competing it's about listening pleasure.

 

Enjoying the music is the secret.

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