Ok, Thanks wkamil. Like to have the capacity of the classic but really trying to avoid itunes. Nothing against it but my PC hard drive died and basically lost my whole library of music and some other stuffs. Have not sync my iphone4 for months so as not to lose all that is in the phone now. Taking my time to build them all up again but now going with flac and would really like to see a stable build for the classic and throw in an amp combo.