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post #1186 of 1512

I'll chime in and agree that these have very good sound throughout all areas.

It's just that the bass is really special and thus gets talked about more.

Let us know what you think, but I'm guessing you're going to like 'em.

I sure do!

 

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Originally Posted by Louis8ball View Post

Very cool. Thank you to both DannyBai and Dsnuts --- you have both put my mind at ease.
And now I can't wait to receive my set of these (via trade with a fellow head-fier)wink.gif
Thank you again!!!cool.gif
post #1187 of 1512
Sounds great. And yes I will definitely post back with my impressions. I can't wait to get them now;)
post #1188 of 1512

Not sure if it was mentioned before but I thought this was significant.

 

Sound signature slightly changes depending on source. I dont recall hearing such notable differences from my other IEMs when changing sources. 

 

All testing was done in default settings with no EQing or tweaking.

 

Hooked up to my desktop or laptop (desktop - direct to motherboard realtek jack - Asus P8Z68 ), the soundstage was insanely huge, almost arena like. The highs were extremely sharp and the sub-bass is insane, however the mids and the mid-bass seemed to be lacking. The best way I can put it is - V signature. Classical sounded AMAZING, however, everything else was uncomfortable at loud volume and not pleasant after a few songs. 

 

Hooked up to my primary source - my Sansa clip:

 

Soundstage was way more neutral, absolutely crisp all throughout, nothing lacking, powerful mids and bass/sub-bass. More flatlined signature compared to my desktop and laptop. Definitely sounded like an upgraded pair compared to being driven by desktop/laptop.

 

One very important note using cks77: 128kbps mp3 sounded the same as FLAC on my desktop & laptop, HOWEVER, i immediately noticed that the same 128kbps tracks sounded terrible on my sansa and the FLAC was perfection.  

 

You guys seriously might want to try different sources and/or different filetypes to see the cks77's full potential.

 

Maybe someone more insightful can chime in on this? I'd love to learn why this is.


Edited by RibeyeAndScotch - 6/20/12 at 12:24pm
post #1189 of 1512
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It is simple these are the most efficient earphones I own. It makes sense that they will have sound changes with different sources. I like using the CKS77 in my Sony Z1060. A bit warmer sounding earphone matched with a bit brighter sounding Dap makes for one of the best synergies I have with any of the earphones I own.. My older Sony S545 the stage is not as wide sound is more warmer but the bass is off the chain. 

 

On my PC they give out more of a headphone type sound. Big wide stage fuller sounding, better detailed. Amp these for more bass like Danny does with his Z02 I can only imagine the bass levels. Lol!. These respond well to eQ for more bass or less. The higher quality source ends up giving these the best sound imo. My .02 But sometimes thats not always the case but in this one the greater efficiency of the CKS77 and the 2nd air chamber that seems to have a more liberal ceiling for sound that adapts to what quality and sound it throws out from source..I will never part with my CKS77. One of my all time favorites. Yes AT fan.

 

14 ohms vs 16 ohms which are somewhat standard great efficiency for earphones already.  Definitely make a difference. It is one of the reasons why I like these. No need for any type of amp but will respond greatly with one.


Edited by Dsnuts - 6/20/12 at 3:14pm
post #1190 of 1512
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Originally Posted by Louis8ball View Post

Sounds great. And yes I will definitely post back with my impressions. I can't wait to get them now;)

The ATH-CKS77 have abundance of sound in all parts of the frequency spectrum.  Beware that these change quite a bid with burn in.  This is what you should expect from them, as they evolve through the burn in process:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/604094/the-ath-cks77-big-roomy-detailed-balanced-n-i-am-not-just-talking-about-the-bass/1035#post_8398943


Edited by Alberto01 - 6/20/12 at 9:38pm
post #1191 of 1512
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post
Amp these for more bass like Danny does with his Z02 I can only imagine the bass levels. Lol!

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Recently I have been listening without the ZO2 as I have been lisening to allot of Phaeleh wich has great details and with a huge bass boost these were not as noticeable...but still there! 

 

For the time when I want a bass massage then there is nothing better than ZO2 + CKS77! eek.gif

post #1192 of 1512

Dsnuts...  If I like the she3580 but wouldn't mind a better build should I get the cks55 filterless or cks77?  For the longest time I loved my TF10's, but when I saw the she3580's at target for like 15 bucks and was heading out on a flight that afternoon I tried them out, and to be honest I've been listening to them a lot more than the TF10's.  I kind of like a hotter treble.. and wouldn't want any less upper mids and treble than I get form the 3580's.

 

Truthfully I'd probably opt for the cks55i's since I primarily listen with my iphone.  Or maybe the Citiscpae underground would be a safer bet at about 40 bucks now...

 

 

Thanks


Edited by archercat - 6/21/12 at 12:16pm
post #1193 of 1512
Thread Starter 

The CKS55 are just ok with filters out. I don't think those are a good value to be honest. The CKS77 is so much better in every single way. The CKS55 sound is a bit too muddy even with the filters out. They just give you a taste of what you can get on a CKS77. I know they cost much more but the CKS77 is the way to go imo. No i controls unfortunately. Now for the same cost of a CKS77 you can get a CKM500i which does have i controls and one of the best all around dynamics for the cost.. 

 

The CKM500 has some of the best refined highs and mids on any dynamics. The CKS77 is the bass kings with the biggest widest sound of any AT iem but the CKM500 has one up in overall sound quality over the CKS77. You can read the CKM500 thread.. That being said if you want that big 2.1 presentation in your ears. Nothing beats the CKS77.

post #1194 of 1512
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Originally Posted by archercat View Post
Dsnuts...  If I like the she3580 but wouldn't mind a better build should I get the cks55 filterless or cks77?  For the longest time I loved my TF10's, but when I saw the she3580's at target for like 15 bucks and was heading out on a flight that afternoon I tried them out, and to be honest I've been listening to them a lot more than the TF10's.  I kind of like a hotter treble.. and wouldn't want any less upper mids and treble than I get form the 3580's.

 

Truthfully I'd probably opt for the cks55i's since I primarily listen with my iphone.  Or maybe the Citiscpae underground would be a safer bet at about 40 bucks now...

another option is SHE5105, the SHE3580 but more refined with better build and remote...exactly what you asked for haha, and Im not just saying this as Im selling a pair (I ought it for my Dad but we just found out he cant use IEMs hence the sale)

 

I do prefer the CKS77´s over them, but they have no mic...something I dont care about but for others its a must

post #1195 of 1512

Thanks for the response.  Is the bass vastly different than the she3580? (cks77)

 

lol... I really don't want to like these philips better than the TF's but there's something about the sound that makes me go back...  oh yeah... the bass... haahaa.

post #1196 of 1512

Hey Danny, yeah the citiscape underground... My Target has them on sale for 40 bucks now, and I get a 14% discount due to a combination of employee discount and using their redcard...  I was about 5 secs from buying them today over lunch...

 

I just want the bass of the she3580 (have not heard the at's yet), with the mids of the Shure se535, the treble of the TF10, and the build of the Shure se535.  LOL, is that too much to ask?  Haahaa...

 

I live in the states... otherwise I'd be all over your undergrounds...

post #1197 of 1512
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Originally Posted by archercat View Post

Hey Danny, yeah the citiscape underground... My Target has them on sale for 40 bucks now, and I get a 14% discount due to a combination of employee discount and using their redcard...  I was about 5 secs from buying them today over lunch...

 

I just want the bass of the she3580 (have not heard the at's yet), with the mids of the Shure se535, the treble of the TF10, and the build of the Shure se535.  LOL, is that too much to ask?  Haahaa...

 

I live in the states... otherwise I'd be all over your undergrounds...

Well for the price you can get the Philips undergrounds, I think that would be a wise choice (a safe choice maybe) as it is an improved version of the SHE3580, mids are a little more present but nothing on the CKS77 who still makes the mids sound recessed on the Philips, the bass is more impactful on the CKS77´s but extension is probably about the same...highs are mor pronouned on the CKS77 which to me make them seem more detailed...however the MAJOR difference between the two is the soundstage where the CKS77´s are like a pair of very good headphones and the Philips underground are just like very good IEM´s this is very obvious to me in EDM but less so when I listen to rock

 

Both would be great but ultimatly the CKS77´s have better sound inpretty much every way in my book (more bass...better or worse?!) with great build quality and look GREAT!

However the cable of the CKS77 is quite noisy to microphonics and it has no mic and wind is VERY noisy) so bad for running outside...basically its a trade off for slightly less sound with the cheaper Philips Cityscape undergrounds but you also get good build quality (on par maybe a tad less than CKS77 but both way above average and Im not scared either will break any time soon) a better flat cable with less microphonics, and mic...and smaller dimensions which may seem not much of a possitive but for example when you lay down in bed the CKS77´s will protrude from your ears touching the pillow so you HAVE to ensure your head is directly verticle to remain comfortable which can be annoying! 

 

So these after owning both are the +´vs and -´s for the everyday user...hope it was somewhat useful

 

I would go with the CKS77´s if I had to pick one to own mainly due to the huge soundstage which is great for EDM as it gives me shivers ocasionally where I have never got this when listening to the Philips...but for rock the benefits of the Philips may outweigh the benefits of CKS77!


Edited by danny93 - 6/21/12 at 2:16pm
post #1198 of 1512

I bought the black pair from Amazon for $98 and have been using these for about 4 days. I've got to say, WOW!!! These sound like I have full-sized speakers in my ears. The bass is amazing out of my Fiio E17 with no bass-boost. The phone is just so clear even though the bass is thumping. The soundstage, for gaming mostly isn't as up to pair as for music and movies, but I"ve got to say, dialogue in Battlefield 3 with War Tapes on (the only way to play Battlefield 3) is clear and crisp while still hearing explosions in the background. I can't believe one can get such clarity from a $100 pair of headphones. Definitely keepers. I really like how natural vocals are on these in-ears.

post #1199 of 1512
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I play as well. Agreed. The big full sound on these bode well for all sorts of media beyond music. Glad your enjoying these. One of my all time faves..

post #1200 of 1512

Well, I had to stop using these. I got a hard scab in my right ear canal . I'm going to let it heal for a few weeks. Any suggestions for a full-size alternative with a similar sound signature?

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