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post #511 of 767
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Originally Posted by swbf2cheater View Post

I agree.  The Sony is better than the 1840.
Better because MA900 are more bassy?
I think it's not main musically characteristics for comparing headphones rolleyes.gif

 

lol. 

 

When did I say it was better just because it was more bassy?


Edited by swbf2cheater - 6/15/12 at 1:38pm
post #512 of 767
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Eh, it only increases slowly by 3db at 30hz compared to 1000hz. Chances are your ears wouldn't even be able to hear that gradual of a slope-- unless you've already seen the graph and have confirmation bias.  I know when I first listened to the D2000 I heard their bass as dead flat to 30hz (once again going off of energy and not volume)

 

I remember running test tones on my D2000 and the only way to get the proper vibration out of a 20hz tone was to double the volume-- ie boost 20hz by 10db and maybe even more.  Even then it was still not very powerful or seemingly full of distortion-- not something clean and deep like a 15 inch sub.  That little driver in it clearly has its limits. 

 

Nah I'm not saying that I heard the slope. I'm just saying that when I heard the Denon's, it was pretty intense. Afterwards when I looked at the graph, there was a rise towards 20hz and not a fall. Since most headphones roll off in that area, few are flat, and very few actually rise, I take this as an indicator of the D2000's fairly strong low frequency response.

 

Mind you I'm not implying that you heard wrong regarding tones at 20hz. As I said, tones at 20hz may not even be audible, and perhaps audible in different levels from person to person (especially considering that the graphs from innerfidelity or any other source generally reply a compensation curve in the low frequencies just to give an average idea of how people hear the lows). It may be that the noise you heard at double the volume at 20hz was literally *all* harmonic distortion. It may also have been interaction with the amplifier considering the D2000's relatively low impedance.

 

Returning to the topic of the MA900 though, the MA900 doesn't really sound flat after 70hz. It's still a good headphone, and seems to have a relatively good bass response for an open headphone. I'm skeptical when it comes to saying it has the most bass of any open headphone though.

post #513 of 767
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I'm skeptical when it comes to saying it has the most bass of any open headphone though.

 

It doesn't.

post #514 of 767

Hmm, all quiet on the MA900 front?

 

Just noticed that Accessoryjack now stocks the MA900! I suspect they do this now after I sent them an email about them, but they never replied to me.

 

http://www.accessoryjack.com/catalog/product/view/id/2975/s/sony-mdr-ma900-hi-fi-music-movie-open-air-stereo-headphones-black/

 

Quite a reasonable price for international shipping, all things considered.

post #515 of 767

Hrm...

 

bhphotovideo can ship the MA900 to Canada for $350 and that includes all shipping and customs fees. Buying at accessoryjack would cost $315 + $39 customs, so it's actually more expensive, and it'd take longer to ship, too.

 

I think I'll buy it at bhphotovideo tomorrow or the day after if there's no one selling it at below MSRP besides certain Japanese dealers. The prospect of a sub-200g circumaural on my head is just too appealing...

 

Went to the Sony store today and they're really showcasing the MA line in full force. Now there's a good two rows of the headphones on display. Of course, they're all MA100/300/500s frown.gif The XB line still seems to be doing great too -- I saw a pack of teenagers fawning over the demo XB700.


Edited by colgatetotal - 6/19/12 at 6:37pm
post #516 of 767

Have tried MA900 yesterday, via Lavry DA10, DACmini, and Graham Slee UL.

 

I think they're more to "fun" headphone rather than analytic. The sound is definitely on warm side for me, with a bit forward midrange and very smooth treble. I like the presentation of bass, when I look the design of MA900 for the first time I imagine the bass will collapse because the "very" open design, but it's a big not. The bass is there, while it's far from bass monster like ATH Pro700 MKII, the midbass quantity is definiltey not lack of body.

 

Compare to AKG K550, I think the Sony is less neutral and also less transparant to set up. I feel AKG has better resolution for detail, separation and cleaness, while Sony's made purely for listening pleasure and forgiving. For casual listening with mainstream recording I would pickup MA900.

post #517 of 767
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Have tried MA900 yesterday, via Lavry DA10, DACmini, and Graham Slee UL.

 

I think they're more to "fun" headphone rather than analytic. The sound is definitely on warm side for me, with a bit forward midrange and very smooth treble. I like the presentation of bass, when I look the design of MA900 for the first time I imagine the bass will collapse because the "very" open design, but it's a big not. The bass is there, while it's far from bass monster like ATH Pro700 MKII, the midbass quantity is definiltey not lack of body.

 

Compare to AKG K550, I think the Sony is less neutral and also less transparant to set up. I feel AKG has better resolution for detail, separation and cleaness, while Sony's made purely for listening pleasure and forgiving. For casual listening with mainstream recording I would pickup MA900.

 

Are they any similar to the HD650?

post #518 of 767
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Originally Posted by mrAdrian View Post

 

Are they any similar to the HD650?

 

You got the point, it's like the "lightweight" of HD650. Though I think MA900 is a bit more neutral, but doesn't have good soundstage image ala HD650.

post #519 of 767
Oh I thought its sound stage would be its forte, light weighted ma900... Interesting
post #520 of 767

If you prefer very spacious and airy presentation, will be better if get the SA-Series instead of this one.

post #521 of 767
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If you prefer very spacious and airy presentation, will be better if get the SA-Series instead of this one.

 

I rather suspect that the SA series's spacious / airy presentation is somewhat an illusion though, created by treble peaks / enclosure ringing. The MA900 has a really cohesive soundstage. If you wear it so that the drivers are as far forward on your head as possible, (thus maximising the effect of the angled drivers) you end up with a sound that is actually hard to place as coming from a pair of headphones. It doesn't feel like its coming from a pair of speakers, but it does sound more natural and in-front-of-face than your usual pair of headphones.

post #522 of 767
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I rather suspect that the SA series's spacious / airy presentation is somewhat an illusion though, created by treble peaks / enclosure ringing. The MA900 has a really cohesive soundstage. If you wear it so that the drivers are as far forward on your head as possible, (thus maximising the effect of the angled drivers) you end up with a sound that is actually hard to place as coming from a pair of headphones. It doesn't feel like its coming from a pair of speakers, but it does sound more natural and in-front-of-face than your usual pair of headphones.

Any more comparison between your modded sa5k and this one, a_rec? Do you fund it warm too?
post #523 of 767
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Originally Posted by a_recording View Post

 

I rather suspect that the SA series's spacious / airy presentation is somewhat an illusion though, created by treble peaks / enclosure ringing. 

Perhaps that's what really happen, or perhaps not. Either way, the easiest way to describe the SA sound is their spacious and airy sensation :D

post #524 of 767
You can get the sa line to sound very neutral, warm etc... It's bass really tightens up if you are willing to mod them...
post #525 of 767

The MDR-F1 is defintely more spacious than the SA5000, and most other mid-tier 'phones IME, but it loses in terms of seperation and imaging. MA900 sounds identical to the F1 FWIR so far.... I hope to land them at a very nice price by next month and do a a Sony cross-gen comparison myself, I'll throw in the PFR-V1 in for good measure. redface.gif

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