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post #16 of 26
Thread Starter 

Hi GG,

 

I live in Vancouver. Cool. Seems like you do too. =D

 

I often go to the headphonebar to get stuff and audition things. They're really nice over there. But I don't think they carry the  dx100 nor the LCD-2 at the moment. 

post #17 of 26

Hey, recently I have extensively listened to the Nuforce HDP connected by USB to my Macbook Pro and just tonight I returned from shopping here in Singapore where a headphone shop in the Ion centre had Dx100's for sale and I was lucky enough to listen to one. I enjoy my music and I find it interesting how different devices sound through my headphones (HD598's), listened to a lot of DAP's and DAC's recently. You hear it a million times but music is a personal thing. I enjoyed listening to the DX100 (playing lossless), it seemed to have a richness and texture to the music that is missing from my Macbook/Hd598, Ipod/Hd598 combo.But..interestingly it didn't have the 'widescreen imaging' I expected. Reminded me of when I hooked up my 598's to my Rega Apollo . But i noticed that the 598's treble  sounded slightly bright  (shop demo model not my own) when the DX100 drove them which I found surprising as the 598's have never sounded bright with any other device I have listened to. I was also surprised at how easily the DX100 drove the 598's. You know the forward treble may have come down to the song choice but the HDP Nuforce sounded just so neutral no matter what I played through it with my Macbook. Also hooked my Macbook up to a Musical Fidelity M1HPA, very low noise floor and very neutral sound signature but the combo lacked excitement with the 598's. The one device that really impressed me recently (and I know you guys will call me crazy) is the Apogee One hooked up to the USB of a Macbook. To me it had the separation I enjoy with the warmth of a good DAC. But..it may have been the strong coffee I was also enjoying at the time). My best musical upgrade is a strong coffee just a few minutes before I settle down for a listening session!

 

All my comments are useless unless you are listening to the same set of headphones. Music is like coffee or red wine or your women, what is best for you is what does it for you the most.But I am intrigued by the Dx100  whilst I easily passed up the HDP or the M1HPA.

 

Cheers

post #18 of 26

@Nick,

 

I wonder how much burn in that DX100 had. @ 200 hours is optimal.

post #19 of 26

Funny, how I remember reading that you sold the CLAS and specifically mentioned that you didn't take the time to compare the differences in SQ. I guess the CLAS has managed to fall a step or two in sound quality from the time it left your hands. This is just another example of how easily people are convinced that what they presently own is best, but the shame of it lies in how carelessly they try to convince others of it also.  
 

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Originally Posted by Girls Generation View Post

I didn't think someone like you would make such wild assumptions. An HM602 to represent a DX100? Really?

Like I said, if he can handle having his music in a DAP, then he has the option to carry it around with IEMs, DX100 being one of the best portable DAPs as of the moment, or use it as a transport for desktop setups since the DX100 has Coax and Optical outs. People who own the DX100 have claimed that DX100 sounds superior to the Macbook, as a transport. Even without considering the sound differences, the DX100 offers so much more flexibility. He only needs to have his music on his DAP, and it will be capable of being a transport, and a portable DAP for on-the-go listening. Its ES9018 DAC chips are implemented well; its also able to drive HD800s and LCD2s with just its internal amp perfectly well, which I find sound better than a full CLAS DB2 SR71B/DB2 topkit setup. My Objective2 doesn't add any benefits to the sound with LCD2s, meaning it's as good as the O2. Yes, of course a desktop setup "may" sound better (depending on whether it's lower class setups, or high end $1500+), but I'm satisfied with this because it fits my needs better. I don't want to bother with large desktop amps, since I'm a student and never at my house.

 

@Chris_Himself: If you don't know what the DX100 is, what it does, or how it sounds, you should refrain from giving one-sided advice.

 

@OP: Consider your 'needs' when deciding. Would you like one of the best DAPs in the market, with multiple functions, 24/192, ability to drive fullsized headphones, and an overall amazing sound? Or do you want to spend less and give up some features and portability?

 



 



 


Edited by ericfarrell85 - 4/8/12 at 6:01pm
post #20 of 26

For me, I can compare the DX100 to things I've own previously and say with good confidence that it's better.  Because it's very, very obvious.  

post #21 of 26

Funny how you've no idea what the DX100 sounds like and how it actually compares to the setup mentioned, yet you're in here randomly inveighing me. 

I've owned the CLAS for quite some time for its sound to be imprinted in my mind, and I will blatantly say it now, again, with confidence, the DX100 sounds much better than the CLAS setup.

Get a DX100, or atleast have a listen, and we'll see how you edit your post. biggrin.gif



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Originally Posted by ericfarrell85 View Post

Funny, how I remember reading that you sold the CLAS and specifically mentioned that you didn't take the time to compare the differences in SQ. I guess the CLAS has managed to fall a step or two in sound quality from the time it left your hands. This is just another example of how easily people are convinced that what they presently own is best, but the shame of it lies in how carelessly they try to convince others of it also.  
 



 

Very. Obvious. You forgot to bold and italicize.
 

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Originally Posted by scootermafia View Post

For me, I can compare the DX100 to things I've own previously and say with good confidence that it's better.  Because it's very, very obvious.  



 


Edited by Girls Generation - 4/8/12 at 9:51pm
post #22 of 26

This thread seems to be humming along nicely - clearly, my work is done. 

 

Satan (Lord of Darkness - yes, that Satan)    evil_smiley.gif

post #23 of 26

Well everytime I go back to that shop someone is listening to the DX100 so I am guessing it would have had quite a few hours already:) Im not here to knock the Dx100, just surprised it did sound quite bright with one particular song and maybe a bit coloured. For that kind of $ I was expecting something sublime. Im getting onto 40, grew up through the 70's,80's and spent many $ on the latest and greatest CD players toting the latest technology. I have had experience in the audio industry and Im not one to get hung up on technology having being burnt numerous times. 'Burn in' is an electrical process yet I am also a firm believer that half of it is your ears getting used to the new sound signature. But I also know from personal experience that I don't like bright sounding devices- no matter how detailed they are. I like my coffee with two sugars and my personal DAP needs to sound like my favourite British hifi setup. Interestingly I heard that the Xseries Walkman sounds quite warm and after seaching Singapore yesterday I found a brand new device and bargained it down to half price (Bishan Best) and bought it. I really like it and this will keep me going until I can demo the Z series. What really worries me though is that recently I heard a very good CD player connected to a very good musical fidelity headphone amp and found the whole thing rather lack lustre. This makes a lot of sense, when we use headphones to listen to DAP's/CD Players we are not listening to the music as the producer originally intended us to. We are supposed to be in a room with a certain amount of ambience/resonance to create that rich 'warmth' that often goes missing when we get hung up on having the most neutral sounding DAP/AMP/Headphone combo. Personally I dont take the whole DAP thing too seriously except its my only real option right now because I am working and living in different countries and cant really take a lot of equipment with me. I will listen to the DX100 again and will post some honest comments:)

 

post #24 of 26

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicklikesmusic View Post

Well everytime I go back to that shop someone is listening to the DX100 so I am guessing it would have had quite a few hours already:) Im not here to knock the Dx100, just surprised it did sound quite bright with one particular song and maybe a bit coloured. For that kind of $ I was expecting something sublime. Im getting onto 40, grew up through the 70's,80's and spent many $ on the latest and greatest CD players toting the latest technology. I have had experience in the audio industry and Im not one to get hung up on technology having being burnt numerous times. 'Burn in' is an electrical process yet I am also a firm believer that half of it is your ears getting used to the new sound signature. But I also know from personal experience that I don't like bright sounding devices- no matter how detailed they are. I like my coffee with two sugars and my personal DAP needs to sound like my favourite British hifi setup. Interestingly I heard that the Xseries Walkman sounds quite warm and after seaching Singapore yesterday I found a brand new device and bargained it down to half price (Bishan Best) and bought it. I really like it and this will keep me going until I can demo the Z series. What really worries me though is that recently I heard a very good CD player connected to a very good musical fidelity headphone amp and found the whole thing rather lack lustre. This makes a lot of sense, when we use headphones to listen to DAP's/CD Players we are not listening to the music as the producer originally intended us to. We are supposed to be in a room with a certain amount of ambience/resonance to create that rich 'warmth' that often goes missing when we get hung up on having the most neutral sounding DAP/AMP/Headphone combo. Personally I dont take the whole DAP thing too seriously except its my only real option right now because I am working and living in different countries and cant really take a lot of equipment with me. I will listen to the DX100 again and will post some honest comments:)

 

 

HPB has the DX100?

post #25 of 26

@girls gen

 

'Stereo' in the Ion shopping centre in central Singapore has some DX100 units. 

post #26 of 26

@ Girls Gen

 

Tonight I finally went back to listen to the DX100 with my own headphones HD598 and some borrowed AKG702. The DX100 unit had its tracks changed and the gain set to mid. Couldnt find any of the KPop that occupied the unit last time I listened. I had a good listening session and I found none of the issues I found in my last post.  I came away feeling more than impressed. Sounds like a cliche but I came away feeling the energy and emotion of the music, the presentation was immediate and upfront and natural. Again I feel the soundstage was not extremely wide but it was natural and more importantly it was coherent as opposed to some players where it is stretched out like a 4:3 movie displayed on 16:9 widescreen. (Maybe a bad analogy but hey:) ).

 

Damn, now I want one !

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