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post #406 of 582
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Originally Posted by Br777 View Post

ive owned several "pretty darn good" amps over the last few years.
the final showdown was a freshly rebuilt and upgraded Cavalli stacker II (there are people who consider this one of the best amps around) vs the O2....  i kept the O2.

...

I dont plan on upgrading anything anymore unless something drastic happens in the world of audio.

maybe i'm just biased.. maybe everyone else is just biased...   well... my bias is cheaper ;-)

Yes, yes and yes dammit. I'm sick of the hype. I just want something that performs adequately. Electrical engineering is an objective science. Music is the artform, so why is personal audio industry so incredibly convoluted and unfulfilling at times?
post #407 of 582
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Originally Posted by temporaryname View Post


Yes, yes and yes dammit. I'm sick of the hype. I just want something that performs adequately. Electrical engineering is an objective science. Music is the artform, so why is personal audio industry so incredibly convoluted and unfulfilling at times?

Because if it's convoluted, there is unlimited room for improvement, and therefore room to "innovate" and make more money.


Edited by lukeahale - 7/6/12 at 5:18am
post #408 of 582

Yep, I'm posting in a dead thread....

 

Still, I'm glad that I was exposed to the concept of the O2 and I've ordered one to replace my E9 - my thinking being that I'll never let myself own TOTL until I maybe cave and get those SR-009 and a stat amp at some point far in the future.  The point is that I'll never pay more than $1k for an amp until then, so if the O2 competes with amps at that price range, the 02 is a no-brainer.

post #409 of 582
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Originally Posted by Br777 View Post

ive owned several "pretty darn good" amps over the last few years.

the final showdown was a freshly rebuilt and upgraded Cavalli stacker II (there are people who consider this one of the best amps around) vs the O2....  i kept the O2.

 

ive owned a couple "pretty high end" dacs as well, the best one being an eastern electric minimax (costs about $800 to give you some point of reference)... i'll be hanging on to the odac.

 

i own lcd-2's and westone es-5's    the above combo is easily as good as anything i've ever heard with both of these headphones. I've gotten rid of all my other gear except my ipod touch (dont really use it for music) and my clip zip which i use rockboxed with my es-5's as my most used rig.

 

I dont plan on upgrading anything anymore unless something drastic happens in the world of audio.

 

maybe i'm just biased.. maybe everyone else is just biased...   well... my bias is cheaper ;-)

 

While I love my ES5, it and the LCD2 are hardly resolution champs.  If you had an HD800 and UERM you might feel different.  Or not according to your bias.  wink_face.gif

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Originally Posted by autumnholy View Post

Actually, a question pops out of my mind:

 

Maybe the scale of "improvement" of O2 compared to other TOTL is dependent on the headphone itself. Just tried my JVC FXT90 with different portable amps. The difference is very minute that I can hardly tell which amp "sounds" better. Is it because of my headphone's limitation?

 

And is it because of that, O2 can match up head to head with other TOTL?

 

Yup

post #410 of 582
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Originally Posted by disastermouse View Post

Yep, I'm posting in a dead thread....

Still, I'm glad that I was exposed to the concept of the O2 and I've ordered one to replace my E9 - my thinking being that I'll never let myself own TOTL until I maybe cave and get those SR-009 and a stat amp at some point far in the future.  The point is that I'll never pay more than $1k for an amp until then, so if the O2 competes with amps at that price range, the 02 is a no-brainer.

I've discovered that a high-end amp + mid-fi headphones is a losing proposition. However, there are complete <$1000 solutions that will knock your socks off.
post #411 of 582
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Originally Posted by Br777 View Post

ive owned several "pretty darn good" amps over the last few years.

the final showdown was a freshly rebuilt and upgraded Cavalli stacker II (there are people who consider this one of the best amps around) vs the O2....  i kept the O2.

 

ive owned a couple "pretty high end" dacs as well, the best one being an eastern electric minimax (costs about $800 to give you some point of reference)... i'll be hanging on to the odac.

 

i own lcd-2's and westone es-5's    the above combo is easily as good as anything i've ever heard with both of these headphones. I've gotten rid of all my other gear except my ipod touch (dont really use it for music) and my clip zip which i use rockboxed with my es-5's as my most used rig.

 

I dont plan on upgrading anything anymore unless something drastic happens in the world of audio.

 

maybe i'm just biased.. maybe everyone else is just biased...   well... my bias is cheaper ;-)

 

I have a Stacker II as well. All things considered, it mates well with some headphones (and very much depending on the tubes used) but not others. For my LCD-3s I decided I ultimately prefer them with the Phoenix, which is designed to be un-colored as possible.

post #412 of 582
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


I've discovered that a high-end amp + mid-fi headphones is a losing proposition. However, there are complete <$1000 solutions that will knock your socks off.

Stax + O2 amp.  Seriously losing proposition...  It has nowhere near the amount of power necessary to get to listenable volumes.

post #413 of 582
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Originally Posted by linuxid10t View Post

Stax + O2 amp.  Seriously losing proposition...  It has nowhere near the amount of power necessary to get to listenable volumes.

Umm, you can't even run Stax headphones off that type of amp. You have to use an amp that's specially made for them.
post #414 of 582
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


Umm, you can't even run Stax headphones off that type of amp. You have to use an amp that's specially made for them.

Transformer box, 'nough said...  XD

post #415 of 582
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Originally Posted by linuxid10t View Post

Transformer box, 'nough said...  XD

You have to use a regular stereo amp to use a transformer box (energizer), the box (Woo WEE, SRD-7, etc..) connects to the speaker taps on the amp.


Edited by Magick Man - 7/21/12 at 11:54pm
post #416 of 582
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


You have to use a regular stereo amp to use a transformer box (energizer), the box (Woo WEE, SRD-7, etc..) connects to the speaker taps on the amp.
700

With the correct cable setup, you can connect anything with a miniplug to a transformer box (in my case the SRD-7.)  Anyway, a friend of mine tried this with his O2 amp, and it worked very poorly.  The Stax sound great off the speaker taps of my Qinpu A3 though... :D

post #417 of 582
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


I've discovered that a high-end amp + mid-fi headphones is a losing proposition. However, there are complete <$1000 solutions that will knock your socks off.

My friend, I can't decide whether I envy you more for your impressive headphone collection or your wife.  Either way, some serious mental daggers are streaming in your general direction!

 

(It should be obvious, but this is the internet - so yeah, I'm kidding.)

post #418 of 582
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Originally Posted by disastermouse View Post

My friend, I can't decide whether I envy you more for your impressive headphone collection or your wife.  Either way, some serious mental daggers are streaming in your general direction!

(It should be obvious, but this is the internet - so yeah, I'm kidding.)

I'm mostly retired, so my hobbies are a main focus. My wife is a case of being in the wrong place at the right time and the story is hilarious. I'll post it up in my "My wife doesn't understand" thread in the Member's Lounge at some point.
post #419 of 582
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Originally Posted by Anaxilus View Post

While I love my ES5, it and the LCD2 are hardly resolution champs.  If you had an HD800 and UERM you might feel different.  Or not according to your bias.  wink_face.gif

Yup
Inaudibility is pretty much universal on amps and dacs http://www.matrixhifi.com/ENG_contenedor_ppec.htm
There's no reason diferent 'phones should make a difference unless output impedance affects anything, which is discarded by today's low impedance amp's
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