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post #31 of 76
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how is it silly?


I already explained how it is silly.

 

But hey, go right ahead and compare the ATH M50 to Sennheiser Orpheus, Sony MDR-10, Audeze LCD-2 while you are at it.

 

Well the Beats sound like $100 cans, so comparing them to a $150 headphone is "fair play", in a sense.

 

The Orpheus and gang on the other hand, sound nothing like headphones below a grand, so comparing them to entry level stuff is just plain insulting.

post #32 of 76
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Well the Beats sound like $100 cans, so comparing them to a $150 headphone is "fair play", in a sense.

 

The Orpheus and gang on the other hand, sound nothing like headphones below a grand, so comparing them to entry level stuff is just plain insulting.

 

What the beats sound like is immaterial. What they actually cost is the matter at hand. And its not $100, the amount is $400. As per your own reasoning, anything that sounds like a can 1/4th of it value is a bad investment.

 

And make no mistake, the only thing that limits people's choices is......money. That is right, everything else comes down to personal preference but ultimately this is the big "bear in the room". If you cant pay for it, what difference does it make? And if money was no object, everyone would be trotting around with the Audeze's or Orpheous or reference grade audiophile headphones. There would be precisely *ZERO* incentive to buy something like the ATH - M50.

 

I am starting to think that there are 2 possibilities playing out in this thread:

1) I am getting trolled.

2) Posters here are beats defenders.

 

Either or both possibilities don't really matter to me but just come out and say it already.

post #33 of 76
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Originally Posted by ilikedonkeys39 View Post

when will the comparasion between the studios be up??! Im excited for that!

 

I have them both right now so expect it soon...after I'm done with listening to all these IEMs smily_headphones1.gif

 

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Why dont you compare them to something like Grado 325, Denon 2k, HD 600, DT880 or similar priced cans? Then lets see how well the beats stand up.

 

Comparing ATH M50 with a can which costs 3 times more is just silly.

 

The reason they are compared is because, like I stated in the post, people are constantly saying "M50 > Beats" or "buy M50 instead of Beats" etc. so I decided to verify those claims. The Pros wouldn't stand up to cans in it's price range so there's no point. In fact, here's a quick D2000 vs MBP review:

 

Bass: D2000 > MBP

Mids: D2000 > MBP

Highs: D2000 > MBP

Comfort: D2000 > MBP

Soundstage: D2000 > MBP

 

Conclusion: D2000 > MBP

 

See how pointless that was? :)

post #34 of 76
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I have them both right now so expect it soon...after I'm done with listening to all these IEMs smily_headphones1.gif


The reason they are compared is because, like I stated in the post, people are constantly saying "M50 > Beats" or "buy M50 instead of Beats" etc. so I decided to verify those claims. The Pros wouldn't stand up to cans in it's price range so there's no point. In fact, here's a quick D2000 vs MBP review:

Bass: D2000 > MBP
Mids: D2000 > MBP
Highs: D2000 > MBP
Comfort: D2000 > MBP
Soundstage: D2000 > MBP

Conclusion: D2000 > MBP

See how pointless that was? smily_headphones1.gif

Actually when they say buy the M50 instead of the beats, they are not wrong. The M 50's are excellent bang for buck phones. Beats are not.

Problem starts when the M 50 becomes a one stop solution. Which phones can give denon 2000 run for their money? M50! Which phones are best under $300? M50's! Which phones have best bass? M50! That **** needs to stop.

There are plenty of cans that make the beats look like an overpriced POS. M50's are one of the best ones but definitely not the only one.

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post #35 of 76
IMO, BeatsPro sounds better than a $100 headphones. If you like Rap/Hip Hop music, it does have an exciting sound signature. Add the build quality, features, design an you have a decent headphones. Sure you can get a similar sound for less more, but you won't get the same build quality, iPhone controls & features. It's best to try it for yourself. If you don't like it, return it and get something else until you are happy.
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post #36 of 76

Having personally experienced the Beats Pros, I find the OP's review to be very much in line with my own impressions. They'd actually sound pretty good if it weren't for all that booming bass. The problem was as I turned up the volume to better hear the vocals, the bass also increased. The soundstage was also pretty cramped IMO. It made for a pretty miserable listening experience, actually.

 

I've yet to try out the M50s, so I can't really say anything about them. However, at least from my experience with AT's lower-end IEMs, I think I can believe the OP when he said that the M50's sound a little thin.


Edited by mbamg - 8/6/12 at 8:49am
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The issue with people using the BeatsPro is they aren't using a decent amp. This headphones like to play loud and demands power to do so.
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post #38 of 76
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The issue with people using the BeatsPro is they aren't using a decent amp. This headphones like to play loud and demands power to do so.
I believe the sound quality (sound stage , separation) an be further enhanced with a right amp. and DAC such as Fostex or CLAS.
post #39 of 76

I'd pay $80 for the Studios, $120 for M50 and $190 for the Pros. The Pros are overpriced, but certainly not complete crap.

post #40 of 76
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I'd pay $80 for the Studios, $120 for M50 and $190 for the Pros. The Pros are overpriced, but certainly not complete crap.

 

o_O  Would the Pro's boomy bass will be tightened up with an amp? That's a shocking estimate of its value.

post #41 of 76
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o_O  Would the Pro's boomy bass will be tightened up with an amp? That's a shocking estimate of its value.

 

I don't think the Beats Pro's bass is boomy at all.  The Solo HD is boomy.  An amp will better refinement in the bass on the Beats Pro.

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post #42 of 76
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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy528 View Post

IMO, BeatsPro sounds better than a $100 headphones. If you like Rap/Hip Hop music, it does have an exciting sound signature. Add the build quality, features, design an you have a decent headphones. Sure you can get a similar sound for less more, but you won't get the same build quality, iPhone controls & features. It's best to try it for yourself. If you don't like it, return it and get something else until you are happy.

agreed, the SQ may not be top notch, but when someone asks for best bass, that doesn't always mean cleanliness or accuracy, a lot of times it means BASS, and the Beats are definitely up there in those regards. That also goes when someone asks for a good pair of hip hop cans. I wouldn't say Beats are a good value despite what it does offer, and for what it does offer there isn't much competition, which is why it's probably priced the way it is. 

post #43 of 76

when will the studios vs m50s be up?

post #44 of 76
I have the m50s and have heard beats pro over 20x. I am not a big fan of hip hop but can appreciate some songs. I really think the M50s outshine the beats in all areas except bass quantity. That being said listening to any music on my m50s makes me want to listen longer. Beats just pound me into a headache.

FWIW Sony XB500 have more bass than Beats and sound better overall.
post #45 of 76

I walked away from the Beats Studios and Beats PROs amazed that anyone would pay more than $30-40 for them, between the cheapo construction and gimmicky boombox sound. They made the clearance-priced Philips sitting next to them sound like a choir of angels.

 

It seems like people who find out boombox-sounding headphones are cheap get offended/insulted and want to find a headphone that sounds like that but costs $300-400. That's where Beats comes in.

 

It's like selling people $1,000 Budweiser cans to make them feel better about not liking expensive wine. They'd save money if they just liked what they liked.Nothing wrong with liking that sound, but why pay $400 when every $30 offbrand "zuper xtra xtreem bass" pair at walmart sounds the same?


Edited by machoboy - 9/13/12 at 9:26pm
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