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post #31 of 78
4/2/12 at 10:36pm
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WASAPI mode sounds noticeably better to me. There's more to it than just bit-perfect or not. Otherwise there would be no difference between Foobar and JPlay. In actuality, the difference is considerable.

Sir, I do believe your brain is playing tricks on you. Have a friend switch it back and forth. See if you hear a difference smily_headphones1.gif
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if you're not in exclusive mode then any number of random windows sounds.

Disable them smily_headphones1.gif
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Topic guys!

Since someone mentioned me, I do still reckon the Magnums are excellent, especially in value.  It's probably easier to list what they don't do well than what they do: Big soundstage, isolation and long-listening time comfort.

What would you suggest for getting a taste of soundstage? Sennheiser? I'm fond of the HD 598 aesthetic. Could use an excuse to look for one.
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Full Magnum upgrade, making use of your MS2i cups, is the next headphone on my buying list.

I plan on loving them very much!

I will ask for black anodizing of all the metal parts, including Magnum buttons.


*Okay no... it's only the second headphone on my buying list. Right now someone has just planted a seed in my brain and I have a desire for a vintage RS1, which I never had until a week ago, dang!

Should look awesome! Glad to see you around. I've heard good things of the vintage rs1
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Well I figured if the OP wants to derail his thread he can. I took it to pms right away tongue.gif

Yeah, I'm terrible about that :-/ just always excited to talk to anyone about anything
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post #32 of 78
4/2/12 at 10:38pm
Too bad, I just sold my HD598 or I'd have let you hear them. Their soundstage is nothing particularly special but it's not bad either.
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post #33 of 78
4/3/12 at 12:39am
After seeing what modding does for the T50RP I'd love to see what the Magnums can do. Too DIY'd out at the moment to make some myself, but hopefully a pair shows up at the LA meet.
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post #34 of 78
4/3/12 at 4:38am
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Sir, I do believe your brain is playing tricks on you. Have a friend switch it back and forth. See if you hear a difference smily_headphones1.gif


Have you listened to JPlay, or are you just simply asserting that all differences are placebo with no evidence? Try it, the demo is free.

 

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post #35 of 78
4/3/12 at 6:35am

 

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What would you suggest for getting a taste of soundstage? Sennheiser? I'm fond of the HD 598 aesthetic. Could use an excuse to look for one.


HD600s with a sufficient amp and source. I haven't tried the 598s yet. Basically though, other than the distance of the drivers from your ears and their angle it's more due to the frequency response -- recessed mids will give the perception of soundstage, for example. Assuming good headphones, a good amp and source will add to that.

 

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post #36 of 78
4/3/12 at 8:42am
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Too bad, I just sold my HD598 or I'd have let you hear them. Their soundstage is nothing particularly special but it's not bad either.

Darn. I just love the look.
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Have you listened to JPlay, or are you just simply asserting that all differences are placebo with no evidence? Try it, the demo is free.

No, I have not. I can't comment on the difference between players. But there is no difference between foobar with or without wasapi (in the proper conditions which are easy to obtain and withold) way away way OT. Lol
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HD600s with a sufficient amp and source. I haven't tried the 598s yet. Basically though, other than the distance of the drivers from your ears and their angle it's more due to the frequency response -- recessed mids will give the perception of soundstage, for example. Assuming good headphones, a good amp and source will add to that.

Tell ya what. That's my next pair of phones. Gonna wait and follow along voldemort likely obtaining a nice dac and a stronger desktop amp and then I will check out HD 600 and 650, when I get the chance.

Unless you feel a gamma 2 dac and an O2 is enough to do them justice. I don't.. I might polish off one of the few vintage amps laying around my dad's house too. ;-)

Now, my turn to go OT, any idea on the sound stage in orthos like the he500? cuz that has caught my eye. Simple solution, own them all.
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post #37 of 78
4/3/12 at 9:06am

 

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After seeing what modding does for the T50RP I'd love to see what the Magnums can do. Too DIY'd out at the moment to make some myself, but hopefully a pair shows up at the LA meet.


I'll be at the meet and can bring my pair of V4 Magnums along -- although they are not "full Magnums" in that they are housed in wood rather than the aluminum sleeves. I'd be glad to send them down a couple of weeks early as well if you want to demo and you can return them to me at the meet. 

 

FWIW, I have owned three pairs of headphones that are typically considered "summit-fi". The Magnums completely demolish the Edition 8. I prefer the LCD-2 to the Magnums, although I can see someone preferring otherwise due to tonal balance. Lastly, the HD800 is a clear step above the Magnums, IMHO. 

 

 

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post #38 of 78
4/3/12 at 9:08am

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Have you heard the Joseph Grado hp1000(i)? Outside of the hp1000 and maybe the ps1 (original), I pretty much agree.


I would agree with Chef.  I've heard the entire Grado lineup, including vintage RS1s, and nothing can touch the HP2 and PS1.  I've owned multiples of each in the past, some sounding noticeably better than others, but eventually I steered away from Grado towards the HD800 and then on to the LCD2.

 

Upon first making the dive in to audiophile headphones I believe the Grado sound does more to enamor new users than any other house sound.  With time, experience, and exposure to more of the brands the headphone world has to offer I have noticed the majority eventually migrate away from Grado.  The only two models I would ever consider owning again are the ones I mentioned above, but their rarity and the price that goes with that make them easy to avoid, as does the fact that I have discovered superior sounding headphones.

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post #39 of 78
4/3/12 at 9:55am

The important ones are the LCD-2.2 and T1 (plus some other random ones).  I have all the different pads but still only use the standard 325 pads - to me it's what the magnums were made to be used with.
 

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What all have you out them up against and what cups do you have? The cups are real important. Aluminum is pretty nice. But wood is all over the place, including nicer than aluminum, if done right ;-). I'm not sure a headphone more natural sounding really exists. Maybe, just maybe, with loooots more money.. but, for this price. I don't believe it will be beat for a long time, if ever.


 

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post #40 of 78
4/3/12 at 10:00am
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Now, my turn to go OT, any idea on the sound stage in orthos like the he500? cuz that has caught my eye. Simple solution, own them all.


I see you used to have some T50RPs but don't anymore.  With the right mods their soundstage will probably destroy the HD600's.  That's what my T50RPs did my HD650's soundstage despite the T50RPs having the handicap of being almost completely closed.  After a few mods the only advantage the HD650s had were being slightly less fatiguing for long term listening and I sold them.

 

Also, recently saw this about the LCD-2, HE-500, and HD800.

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post #41 of 78
4/3/12 at 7:44pm
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I'll be at the meet and can bring my pair of V4 Magnums along -- although they are not "full Magnums" in that they are housed in wood rather than the aluminum sleeves. I'd be glad to send them down a couple of weeks early as well if you want to demo and you can return them to me at the meet. 

I'd love to try them out, thanks. Looks like the meet is going to be pretty big.
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post #42 of 78
4/3/12 at 8:48pm
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Quest, what wood do you have yours in? People should be aware the wood makes a big difference.
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post #43 of 78
4/3/12 at 10:45pm

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I would agree with Chef.  I've heard the entire Grado lineup, including vintage RS1s, and nothing can touch the HP2 and PS1.  I've owned multiples of each in the past, some sounding noticeably better than others, but eventually I steered away from Grado towards the HD800 and then on to the LCD2.

 

Upon first making the dive in to audiophile headphones I believe the Grado sound does more to enamor new users than any other house sound.  With time, experience, and exposure to more of the brands the headphone world has to offer I have noticed the majority eventually migrate away from Grado.  The only two models I would ever consider owning again are the ones I mentioned above, but their rarity and the price that goes with that make them easy to avoid, as does the fact that I have discovered superior sounding headphones.


That very wise... it's something I will probably never be able to say on my own. I grow too attached to my things. And in this case, my case, things = Grado headphones.

 

 

Anyone know how the Magnums compare to the Grado PS1?

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post #44 of 78
4/4/12 at 2:44am
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That very wise... it's something I will probably never be able to say on my own. I grow too attached to my things. And in this case, my case, things = Grado headphones.

 

 

Anyone know how the Magnums compare to the Grado PS1?


I have both. Although the Magnum 325 don't really have the seductive mid of PS1, overall I feel  they compared well. I have always been a little bit bordered by the overblown bass of the PS1 (I heard different pairs). The Magnum with bowl pads gives me better bass and an overall balanced sound.

I know PS1 is special but for the money you have to pay for them these days, I'll go for the Magnum.

 

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post #45 of 78
4/4/12 at 8:16am

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Originally Posted by pcf View Post

I have both. Although the Magnum 325 don't really have the seductive mid of PS1, overall I feel  they compared well. I have always been a little bit bordered by the overblown bass of the PS1 (I heard different pairs). The Magnum with bowl pads gives me better bass and an overall balanced sound.

I know PS1 is special but for the money you have to pay for them these days, I'll go for the Magnum.

 

Wow thank you! I didn't expect someone who owned both to reply (and I had forgot you had a PS1 too)

 

Balance is usually something I appreciate and prefer. I'll try to forget about the PS1 for now... or "from now and forever". In other words I'll try to get the Magnums first.

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