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post #46 of 75

For the simple reason that it is now discontinued. Have you purchased directly from Audio-GD or from a local dealer? In any case, good call. You have probably bought one of the last available new. Glad to hear that you are enjoying it. It certainly looks like an awesome piece of gear! 

 

Al the best.  


Edited by rocksteady65 - 2/12/14 at 10:00pm
post #47 of 75
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For the simple reason that it is now discontinued. Have you purchased directly from Audio-GD or from a local dealer? In any case, good call. You have probably bought one of the last available new. Glad to hear that you are enjoying it. It certainly looks like an awesome piece of gear! 

Al the best.  

Ah, now I understand. I didn't make it clear I was buying used, not new. And this thing is better as a preamp than I had expected, really outpacing its abilities as a headphone amp IMO. Very involving sound!
post #48 of 75
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As the NFB-6 is one of the most reasonably-priced balanced amps available on the market today, I think it would be a real service to others in the community who might be curious if more owners could post their thoughts-- it sounds like the 6 has the potential to be a real giant killer (in balanced mode at least), and I'm guessing the only thing holding a number of people back is the dearth of reviews and impressions on it. So if you've got one, chat it up-- good or bad!! :)

 

 

 

 

+1 to that!

 

So I keep reading that the NFB 6 sounds better balanced than unbalanced.   Does that apply just to the 1/4" headout or to the RCA outs as well?  Reason for the question is that I'm primarily looking for a speaker preamp and could make use of both the XLR and RCA outputs, to two different sets of speakers.

 

 

Also, someone commented (on this thread or another) that the NFB 6 was so revealing that poorly recorded or lower bitrate files sounded almost unlistenable.  Are others finding this too?  I don't mind a bit of honesty and transparancy but I do have a lot of MP3 mixes (mostly from vinyl source material) and wouldn't want them to be too grating to listen to.


Edited by BrainFood - 4/17/14 at 9:41am
post #49 of 75
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+1 to that!

 

So I keep reading that the NFB 6 sounds better balanced than unbalanced.   Does that apply just to the 1/4" headout or to the RCA outs as well?  Reason for the question is that I'm primarily looking for a speaker preamp and could make use of both the XLR and RCA outputs, to two different sets of speakers.

 

 

Also, someone commented (on this thread or another) that the NFB 6 was so revealing that poorly recorded or lower bitrate files sounded almost unlistenable.  Are others finding this too?  I don't mind a bit of honesty and transparancy but I do have a lot of MP3 mixes (mostly from vinyl source material) and wouldn't want them to be too grating to listen to.

 

Yes it applies to both headphone out and preamp out,   XLR vs RCA  is double Voltage and it's posible to conect both outputs at the same time, though keep the diference in power in mind. I'd say the NFB-6 balanced mode is well rounded, though it can lack some refinement, dynamics, speed, extended frequency response, instrumental separation, soundstage to it's bigger brother Master-5/6/8/9

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Yes it applies to both headphone out and preamp out,   XLR vs RCA  is double Voltage and it's posible to conect both outputs at the same time, though keep the diference in power in mind. I'd say the NFB-6 balanced mode is well rounded, though it can lack some refinement, dynamics, speed, extended frequency response, instrumental separation, soundstage to it's bigger brother Master-5/6/8/9

 

Hmm so not so good then.  Guess I'll just have to use the NFB-6 balanced out, then.  Damn.

 

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 though it can lack some refinement, dynamics, speed, extended frequency response, instrumental separation, soundstage to it's bigger brother Master-5/6/8/9

 

No surprises there really..


Edited by BrainFood - 4/17/14 at 12:19pm
post #51 of 75

The biggest difference between SE and BA  is the bass control IMHO

post #52 of 75
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The biggest difference between SE and BA  is the bass control IMHO

 

A little extra bass control over balanced isn't unexpected, tbh.  Is the overall SQ gap as big between RCA out and XLR out as it supposedly is between the balanced headout and unbalanced headout?


Edited by BrainFood - 4/17/14 at 12:36pm
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A little extra bass control over balanced isn't unexpected, tbh.  Is the overall SQ gap as big between RCA out and XLR out as it supposedly is between the balanced headout and unbalanced headout?

 

No, emphatically not! I have used the NFB-6 as a Preamp for a shortwhile and I can confirm that the differential between the SE-RCA and XLR outs is very small, almost negligible. And that is how it should be, on a well designed circuit. As for the Headphone Outs, that is a completely different story, at least on power ratings. 

 

Best,

 

Leonel


Edited by rocksteady65 - 4/18/14 at 11:30am
post #54 of 75
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No, emphatically not! I have used the NFB-6 as a Preamp for a shortwhile and I can confirm that the differential between the SE-RCA and XLR outs is very small, almost negligible. And that is how it should be, on a well designed circuit. As for the Headphone Outs, that is a completely different story, at least on power ratings. 

 

Best,

 

Leonel

 

Hey, thanks for confirming what I suspected might be the case, although I'm not sure the previous poster completely agrees.  How would you rate it as a preamp overall?

 

 

I cut and pasted (below) part of a post from a different thread.  So is everyone in agreement that the NFB6 is so incredibly revealing that low res files are unlistenable?  I'm a dance music fan and have a lot of MP3 mixes (mostly from vinyl source material) but thankfully mostly 192kbps and above.  If these are going to be rendered useless, then the NFB-6 won't be for me.  Listen to a lot of well-recorded flac/wavs and vinyl too. 

 

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Cons:

1. Does not look that great. I don't really mind, I would rather spend my money on quality electronics than fancy boxes.

2. It absolutely slaughters poor source material. Forget about listening to internet radio or low res files, at least if you have a good amp and speakers or high resolution headphones. It is seriously unforgiving.

 

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Hey, thanks for confirming what I suspected might be the case, although I'm not sure the previous poster completely agrees.  How would you rate it as a preamp overall?

 

 

I cut and pasted (below) part of a post from a different thread.  So is everyone in agreement that the NFB6 is so incredibly revealing that low res files are unlistenable?  I'm a dance music fan and have a lot of MP3 mixes (mostly from vinyl source material) but thankfully mostly 192kbps and above.  If these are going to be rendered useless, then the NFB-6 won't be for me.  Listen to a lot of well-recorded flac/wavs and vinyl too. 

 

 

Hello again.

 

I rate it very highly indeed. Please read my posts on Pages 2-3. As for other users opinions, well, I have to say that I am convinced that Frank-I's rather negative review has produced what I call " Inverted Placebo Effect", where users expect to hear bad things, based on what they have read, and so they hear them! Just my humble opinion, of course. Regarding MP3/Data reduced files, I couldn't possibly comment on it, simply because I do not listen to them, except for some casual Listening/Viewing on my Laptop...

 

Best.


Edited by rocksteady65 - 4/18/14 at 11:30am
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Hello again.

 

I rate it very highly indeed. Please read my posts on Pages 2-3. As for other users opinions, well, I have to say that I am convinced that Frank-I's rather negative review has produced what I call " Inverted Placebo Effect", where users expect to hear bad things, based on what they have read, and so they hear them! Just my humble opinion, of course. Regarding MP3/Data reduced files, I couldn't possibly comment on it, simply because I do not listen to them, except for some casual Listening/Viewing on my Laptop...

 

Best.

 

Damn, not sure how I missed your posts on page 2/3 that compare RCA-XLR clearly.  Half asleep as ever.:smile_phones:

 

 

Think I'm going for it.  Just need to decide whether to order it from Audio-GD or Audiophonics in France.  The latter works out about £85 more.

 

If anyone from the UK is looking in:  Regarding ordering from China, does DHL just charge you the normal rate of import tax/ duty (which is 25% max, ime) or do they add on extra surcharges?  Thanks!

post #57 of 75
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Damn, not sure how I missed your posts on page 2/3 that compare RCA-XLR clearly.  Half asleep as ever.:smile_phones:

 

 

Think I'm going for it.  Just need to decide whether to order it from Audio-GD or Audiophonics in France.  The latter works out about £85 more.

 

If anyone from the UK is looking in:  Regarding ordering from China, does DHL just charge you the normal rate of import tax/ duty (which is 25% max, ime) or do they add on extra surcharges?  Thanks!

 

Not sure about DHL in the UK, as I do not live there, but in Portugal they will definitely add their handling charges, and they aren't exactly light! I suspect they will probably impose such charges in the UK as well.:mad: I now choose EMS when ordering from Audio-GD, even though it is generally a bit more expensive. It still works out cheaper for me...

 

Best.


Edited by rocksteady65 - 4/18/14 at 11:30am
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Not sure about DHL in the UK, as I do not live there, but in Portugal they will definitely add their handling charges, and they aren't exactly light! I suspect they will probably impose such charges in the UK as well.:mad: I now choose EMS when ordering from Audio-GD, even though it is generally a bit more expensive. It still works out cheaper for me...

 

Best.

 

How much was the handling charge on top of the normal duty?  If it's too extortionate, then I might just get if from Audiophonics.  At least if it needs servicing after one year, I'd be able to send it back to France instead of China (much cheaper).  That said, the first year is free return if you order from Audio GD- not sure about Audiophonics with that.

 

 

 

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How much was the handling charge on top of the normal duty?  If it's too extortionate, then I might just get if from Audiophonics.  At least if it needs servicing after one year, I'd be able to send it back to France instead of China (much cheaper).  That said, the first year is free return if you order from Audio GD- not sure about Audiophonics with that.

 

 

 

 

I would have to check the exact amount, but it was in the region of €50. I don't think it depends on the declared value, but I could be wrong. In any case, the declared value plus shipping was around $265.


Edited by rocksteady65 - 4/19/14 at 1:59am
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I would have to check the exact amount, but it was in the region of €50. I don't think it depends on the declared value, but I could be wrong. In any case, the declared value plus shipping was around $265.

 

That's massive!  Anyhow Kingwa told me DHL's surchage varies between country, so hopefully less in UK.

 

Just need to make a final decision about whether to go for the NFB6 and use my existing dac or the new Yulong D200 dac/ preamp.   That has digital volume though, and probaby not as good sounding as a preamp..:regular_smile :

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