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post #31 of 172
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Wow Fortis, that was one nice presentation !!  I have a lot to learn about posting apparently...

 

 

X-App takes the same number of steps to load album art to an album, but then it includes it on each track (at least if you highlight the album vs the track-I haven't played with it too deeply yet to see what other options there are).  It also loads art to the Z1070 in Atrac or WAV, so it is my main method still.

Thanks Now What! redface.gif - hopefully it may just come in handy one day for someone coming across the same issue with their Japanese Z1070.  

 

Maybe one day Sony will just have the common sense to sell 64gb walkmans outside Japan or even better as we get the EU volume cap so for me just making  the X-app software they have work in English for our o/s as well. 

Still cannot fathom out why SonicStage does not even download the artwork in the first place??

 

Will give the X-App a shot for sure with you saying it transfers album art okay with both Atrac & WAV.

 

When I get the time as it looks like it is going to be an adventure sniffing around this program if I break some barriers down in understanding the X-App program if translation stuff can be done etc then I will be sure to post here. 

post #32 of 172
Originally Posted by FortisFlyer75 

 

When I get the time as it looks like it is going to be an adventure sniffing around this program if I break some barriers down in understanding the X-App program if translation stuff can be done etc then I will be sure to post here. 

My guess is that the buttons and their labels are supplied in Japanese only and so can't be translated simply. It will be nice if I'm wrong...

 

But Google Chrome translations can be amusing.  I got this today when I surfed to the Japanese Z manual:

google3.jpg

blink.gif  Next time his happens to me I'll know where to find help!

post #33 of 172
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google3.jpg

blink.gif  Next time his happens to me I'll know where to find help!

 

so this is the manual to go to when your having trouble not using your Walkman when if fact you are... they think of everything these Japanese, psychic wi-fi anyone?

post #34 of 172

Learning X-App

 

Yesterday I (finally!) opened the Help file in X-App and found it to be very helpful.  I had been using Google Chrome browser on Sony's Japanese X-App website with instant translation. This is useful since the various topic headings are listed in English. The downside is that the illustrations included can't translated by Google.  The Help file seems to have more information and it has more detailed text descriptions.  The text can then be Cut & Pasted into Google translate.  The Help file downside is that it can't be searched in English.  But it is laid out in sections that can be paged thru.  Together these 2 methods explain things quite well.

 

The 3rd method is to just select various buttons on X-App and see what happens.  It resembles many similar programs in layout and some options are also labeled with Roman alphabet capital letters such as (E) for edit, (T) tools, etc.  Once music files are entered, it is often obvious what the column headings must be.  Japanese descriptions within a music file (for example, Genre) can be retyped as English by the user.  This is how I learned half of what I know so far.  After a while, most computer input in menu driven programs seems to me to be more habit than reading.

 

One thing I learned in the Help file was how to import SonicStage CP, AKA SonicStage 4.3 into X-App.  It's the fourth box down in the (T) tools menu.  I don't have SS, so I haven't tried it. I would expect it would handle the artwork in the process. I don't know if it's a good thing to do or not.  Perhaps some brave soul will try (or has tried) it and let us know. I suggest backing stuff up and hiding the backup first.

 

Sayonara for now.

post #35 of 172
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Originally Posted by Now What View Post

My guess is that the buttons and their labels are supplied in Japanese only and so can't be translated simply. It will be nice if I'm wrong...

 

But Google Chrome translations can be amusing.  I got this today when I surfed to the Japanese Z manual:

google3.jpg

blink.gif  Next time his happens to me I'll know where to find help!

That always happens to me.....not knowing I am using my Walkman....Doh!

 

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Originally Posted by Now What View Post

Learning X-App

 

Yesterday I (finally!) opened the Help file in X-App and found it to be very helpful.  I had been using Google Chrome browser on Sony's Japanese X-App website with instant translation. This is useful since the various topic headings are listed in English. The downside is that the illustrations included can't translated by Google.  The Help file seems to have more information and it has more detailed text descriptions.  The text can then be Cut & Pasted into Google translate.  The Help file downside is that it can't be searched in English.  But it is laid out in sections that can be paged thru.  Together these 2 methods explain things quite well.

 

The 3rd method is to just select various buttons on X-App and see what happens.  It resembles many similar programs in layout and some options are also labeled with Roman alphabet capital letters such as (E) for edit, (T) tools, etc.  Once music files are entered, it is often obvious what the column headings must be.  Japanese descriptions within a music file (for example, Genre) can be retyped as English by the user.  This is how I learned half of what I know so far.  After a while, most computer input in menu driven programs seems to me to be more habit than reading.

 

One thing I learned in the Help file was how to import SonicStage CP, AKA SonicStage 4.3 into X-App.  It's the fourth box down in the (T) tools menu.  I don't have SS, so I haven't tried it. I would expect it would handle the artwork in the process. I don't know if it's a good thing to do or not.  Perhaps some brave soul will try (or has tried) it and let us know. I suggest backing stuff up and hiding the backup first.

 

Sayonara for now.

Good show, will use this guide when I check X-app out soon.... ; ) 

post #36 of 172

Adding Album Art in X-App

 

I was going to follow FortisFlyer75's fine footsteps, but the present plan is to purely plagiarize his post #29 on the SonicStage album art procedure.  I hope you don't mind Fortis!   Below is Fortis' post on SS with pics of the X-App procedure inserted to the right of the SS pics or below them, depending on your screen.  His words are entirely unchanged.  This should show the similarity of the 2 Sony programs and perhaps show that you don't have to know Japanese to use X-App.

 

I should add that I do find learning languages interesting, so to me the fact that X-App is Japanese is part of the fun. Other users may be less enthusiastic.  Also, many of the words in Japanese on X-App are borrowed from English and I can read them phonetically-but I keep my Hiragana & Katakana alphabet cheat sheet handy ;)

 

 

Quote:Originally Posted by FortisFlyer75 View Post

 

I found using SonicStage with the Japanese Z1070 does not like adding the album art in both Atrac 352 or WAV even though it tags okay with artist, track, album info no problems. 

 

Only way to add with SonicStage is to manually add the album art by saving image files from Google.

I have included a quick step by step how to as you have to add the art for the album itself first and then go into the album to show tracks listed and add the art for each track manually one by one. 

 

Easy enough buy tedious and time consuming..........

 

 

1: Highlight album to add art to; - frame1.png  aart1.jpg

 

 

2: Click on properties;-  frame2.png   aart2.jpg

 

 

3: click the add button frame3.png   aart3a.jpg

 

 4: Choose the album art from a designated folder where you would of saved a image from Google  earlier on and click on the open tab:- frame4.png  aart4.jpg

 

4: You should see the album art inserted like so, just click ok to accept or if you have other albums to do click next and it will take you to the next album in the library if you have others to do.fram5.png  aart5a.jpg

 

 

At this point Fortis shows how to tag individual tracks with the art.  X-App does this automatically.  In X-App, the library can be viewed as individual tracks (and other views as well). Where tracks can be individually highlighted, they can have their art changed, added, or deleted individually.

 

In step 2, the X-App drop down menu labels Properties with an (R)-consider it Revise Properties if it helps.  

 

In step 3, the Properties box is shown.  The box shows the current artwork. Below that art are buttons to Register the Jacket (J) and to Delete(D) the art.  With the (J) button, you can replace existing art or add art when there is none assigned-perhaps more useful than the SS Add button.  

Other boxes here in Properties:

(T) Title          (K) Alternative Title ????

(R) Artist        (Z) Alternative Artist Name?????

(P) Compilation check box

(G) Genre      (Y) Release Date

(E) Equalizer    (X-App player has an equalizer)

(B) Back       (N) Next

 

The genre box has a drop down list.  You can add your own words in English. In such lists, a user could add words to label the box in English such as "A Genre" where the A would keep the label near the top of the alphabetically sorted list.

 

 

 

Cheers

post #37 of 172

It turns out that there is a fast way to get album art tagged to an artless album in X-App. Simply highlight the album in the library and then right click that album.  Choose (J) to acquire a photo by automated internet search.  If there is an appropriate photo on the sites it checks, the album and all tracks will have the photo applied. 

 

aart2b.jpg

 

SonicStage has a similar line on its corresponding menu called Search for Cover Art/More Info.  I wonder if that will also add art to an album.

 

0a6894f0_frame2.png   I don't have SS to test it.

post #38 of 172

Now What - Fine two posts on the X-app, I will be definitely downloading X-app this weekend now and playing around with it after seeing this fine presentation indeed. 

 

Hopefully it will do the job as I am about to get around to booting 40+ gb of my tunes to the Z soon, imagine doing the album art manually for each track in a album for 64gb of musiceek.gif

post #39 of 172
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Originally Posted by FortisFlyer75 View Post

imagine doing the album art manually for each track in a album for 64gb of musiceek.gif

 

I won't be imagining angry_face.gif

post #40 of 172
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Now What - Fine two posts on the X-app, I will be definitely downloading X-app this weekend now and playing around with it after seeing this fine presentation indeed. 

 

Hopefully it will do the job as I am about to get around to booting 40+ gb of my tunes to the Z soon, imagine doing the album art manually for each track in a album for 64gb of musiceek.gif

Thanks Fortis!  Your install should go smoothly. Mine had 2 hiccups.  I had to/preferred to reset defaults on what program opens music files after the install-no big deal. The other problem was self inflicted. I did screen captures of the install that are on my Head-Fi profile now.  I did one of the captures during the actual install instead of during the pause for me to click Next, because that step had no pause. Some screens looked funny after that, but an uninstall and clean install fixed that easily enough.

 

I guess you will be hitting the next button a lot while loading the art.wink_face.gif

 

Have fun with it.

post #41 of 172
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I guess you will be hitting the next button a lot while loading the art.wink_face.gif

 

 

If this don't go right this time you two better find a place to hide... for eternity wink_face.gif

post #42 of 172
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If this don't go right this time you two better find a place to hide... for eternity wink_face.gif

Yikes!  I'd better start charging the portable rig....

 

Questions?  Don't hesitate to ask.

post #43 of 172

I have the non-japanese version, i want it to play ATRAC...can anyone help?

post #44 of 172
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Yikes!  I'd better start charging the portable rig....

 

Questions?  Don't hesitate to ask.

 

Now & Fortis you have done me proud... I've got artwork on albums & tracks.... sent 680 tracks to the WM-Z in the first hit, no hitches whatsoever.

 

Thank-you so much for all advice & help beerchug.gif

post #45 of 172
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I have the non-japanese version, i want it to play ATRAC...can anyone help?

 

you may have to download Sonicstage and convert them... seems absolutely stupid that Sony files don't play on a WM-Z (outside of Japan)

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