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post #1381 of 1913

Thanks I appreciate that. 

post #1382 of 1913

In D7100 the mids are coming forward to neutral level at around 150 - 200h... those HPs need time, also they are shining with matching in quality equipment (high quality that is)  on inferior they will reflect on the quality of the other bits and bobs in your system - the usual reason for boomy and weakly controlled bass.

 

The bass is very well controlled once they settle in but most people tend to bash them after few hours of listening... 


Edited by sebna - 3/20/13 at 1:35am
post #1383 of 1913

I gave them around 150hrs to settle down but the bass did not change after about 100hrs. They are very good headphones but not at £1000 MRP. Here in UK amazon is selling them at £600 which is far too expensive for these headphones. The asking price is the main problem, these headphones belong in the £350-£400 price range. People who want to better headphones should look towards Sennheiser HD600/HD650. The only reason I would be willing to pay £400 for these is because they work very well with the iDevices. 

post #1384 of 1913

 So far out of my ipod touch I have not heard anything better than with my D7100. On my desktop rig the T1 outshines it by quite a bit with my music. Definitely not worth MSRP, but 700-800 bucks would be decent value imo.

post #1385 of 1913
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 So far out of my ipod touch I have not heard anything better than with my D7100. On my desktop rig the T1 outshines it by quite a bit with my music. Definitely not worth MSRP, but 700-800 bucks would be decent value imo.

+1 Agreed.

post #1386 of 1913
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Actually I have my eye on the beyerdynamic T1. Would like to get your opinion on that. Thanks.

 

 

 


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They're fast with nice tight bass, and the mids are fairly neutral, but there's harshness in the highs @8kHz that makes some material unpleasant to listen to. They're a little raw for some people's taste.
 
+1
 
the T1 are very nice headphones, i prefer them to the HE-500, HD 800, D7000, LCD-2, and all others i've heard. of course, this is preference, they aren't necessarily better than them. but they do outperform the D7000 with the exception to bass quantity. the treble isn't too much of a problem since it can be tamed with a good tube amp, definitely a world class headphone thats hard to beat. great all-rounders that work very well with just about any genre of music. the bass is slightly boosted above neutral and the mids have a slight warmth to them that allows them to be very musical. 

Edited by Dubstep Girl - 3/20/13 at 3:15pm
post #1387 of 1913

Am close to buying the D7100`s, but to be honest I have never read reviews of any piece of equipment that have confused me for reviews!!

 

Some say they are amazing with great bass! and other say rubbish and sound like fart cannons!...... Am shocked how there isnt any type of middle ground really and unsure if they are a upgrade from my D2000s or a downgrade!

post #1388 of 1913

d2000 is equal or better.

post #1389 of 1913

Depends on what you want. If it is strictly for home use, no noise blocking needed, and sound quality I'm sure there are at least as good headphones as the 7100 that has better p/p value, but they are either ugly or heavy and uncomfortable, and most likely will require a good amp to really shine. The 7100 is semi-portable and sounds great out of pretty much any source, super comfortable and has good sound quality with a nice wide sound stage that most portables cannot touch. One problem is sibilance that can get annoying at times, other than that everything is well in control.

 

All in all if you can get it for under 900 I'd say go for it.

post #1390 of 1913

Yer think am gona treat myself to them......... Going to do some reading about the D600 vs D7100 as if the difference is minimal I might just get the D600 :) 

post #1391 of 1913
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Yer think am gona treat myself to them......... Going to do some reading about the D600 vs D7100 as if the difference is minimal I might just get the D600 smily_headphones1.gif 

The d600 and d7100 use the same drivers.
post #1392 of 1913
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Thanks I am going for the T1 so soon find me on that thread. Amazon refunded me the money for the D7100 so very happy with their customer service. I would not call the D7100 fart canons that is a bit exaggerated. Personally if you are looking for a good portable headphone for your iPod and have cash to burn then go ahead. I would maybe buy the Sennheiser Amperior and put the left over cash on a HD 600. 


Edited by zigy626 - 3/20/13 at 5:12pm
post #1393 of 1913
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Originally Posted by sebna View Post

In D7100 the mids are coming forward to neutral level at around 150 - 200h... those HPs need time, also they are shining with matching in quality equipment (high quality that is)  on inferior they will reflect on the quality of the other bits and bobs in your system - the usual reason for boomy and weakly controlled bass.

 

The bass is very well controlled once they settle in but most people tend to bash them after few hours of listening... 

Sorry, but effects from burn-in are minimal IMEs. As well, I've heard the D7100s with several hundred hours (demos that were played 14 hours a day for weeks, 7 days a week) and played from a great source/amp. Can I ask you what other top flight headphones you've heard to make statements like the bass is very well controlled? Sorry, but I wouldn't pay $200 for these headphones. 

 

Have a look at the high amount of distortion at lower frequencies:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/DenonAHD7100.pdf

 

Throw in the recessed mids and treble that is overly etched, sorry but no amount of burn-in is gonna help that. For $1200 I expect a whole lot more from headphones. 

post #1394 of 1913
If you want a more neutral set of cans, but want the Denon bass "signature", buy the D600s and save some cash. Take the money you saved and buy some HiFiMAN HE500s or Koss ESP/950s.
post #1395 of 1913

Thanks!! how about the AKG K550 or K551 are they in the same league as the Denons and worth considering? 

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