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post #1366 of 1913

Anyone know who OEM's for Denon now that Fostex is gone? 

post #1367 of 1913

just an update from me:

I didn't return the hp because I would loose too much money and with the money left I couldn't get anything better.

 

After 17 day the bass is almost normal, the sound stage is much bigger and deeper, the headphones got better in every aspect and they still improve.

 

I don't know if they are great hp or not, I only own hd595 (and speakers), but definitely they need at least 1 month of listening before making a conclusion because over this 17 days the sound improved extremely much.


Edited by soberspine - 3/17/13 at 7:29am
post #1368 of 1913

Just returned a pair that I had bought. I thought I could live with the bass but finding out that the price on this thing keeps dropping in UK I had no choice but to return. The headphones have some positives like good soundstage, nice detail in the upper range, mids are OK nothing special. But the main problem is with the boomy bass on some tracks it becomes a big problem by creeping into the Mids. I feel this is the wrong headphone for someone that likes neutral signature. If going by this thread many people feel disappointed. I can tell you that these headphones work great with the current crop of iDevices they seem to tame the boomy bass a little bit. All in all these are for the Dr Dre generation and Denon has shifted it's focus. Can't justify paying £1000 or £600 or £450 on these. The maximum I would spend is around £350 mark and use it with an iPod. Not really Hi-fi in my opinion at best a Mid-fi headphone. Personally I would choose the Sennheiser HD 600 or the Amperior over these anyday. 

 

Not a great headphone don't be fooled into paying retail on this. Not worth it. Unless you like your bass uncontrolled and boomy. 

post #1369 of 1913

^ reinforces my previous statement.

 

"The D7000 is high end, the D7100 is mid-fi at best" 

 

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post #1370 of 1913
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Originally Posted by zigy626 View Post

Just returned a pair that I had bought. I thought I could live with the bass but finding out that the price on this thing keeps dropping in UK I had no choice but to return. The headphones have some positives like good soundstage, nice detail in the upper range, mids are OK nothing special. But the main problem is with the boomy bass on some tracks it becomes a big problem by creeping into the Mids. I feel this is the wrong headphone for someone that likes neutral signature. If going by this thread many people feel disappointed. I can tell you that these headphones work great with the current crop of iDevices they seem to tame the boomy bass a little bit. All in all these are for the Dr Dre generation and Denon has shifted it's focus. Can't justify paying £1000 or £600 or £450 on these. The maximum I would spend is around £350 mark and use it with an iPod. Not really Hi-fi in my opinion at best a Mid-fi headphone. Personally I would choose the Sennheiser HD 600 or the Amperior over these anyday. 

 

Not a great headphone don't be fooled into paying retail on this. Not worth it. Unless you like your bass uncontrolled and boomy. 

Didnt they say that about the d-xxxx series regarding the bass !

post #1371 of 1913

I have had the 7100 for a month now and the boomy bass is nowhere to be found. If anything the unmodded D7000 is the definition of boomy bass, and the 7100's bass is a lot more controlled.

post #1372 of 1913
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Originally Posted by LinkPro View Post

I have had the 7100 for a month now and the boomy bass is nowhere to be found. If anything the unmodded D7000 is the definition of boomy bass, and the 7100's bass is a lot more controlled.

I am used to listen to HE-500 and comparing those to the Denon Ah-d7100 I find the bass boomy and creeping into the mids. It's very disappointing that Denon is asking for such a high price for these headphones.

post #1373 of 1913

zigy626 for how long you listened 7100?

 

At first indeed the bass is too much and boomy but after several weeks (3 in my case) the bass becomes normal and it still improves.

 

At first I was meh about this hp but with time they become much much better.

post #1374 of 1913
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Originally Posted by zigy626 View Post

Just returned a pair that I had bought. I thought I could live with the bass but finding out that the price on this thing keeps dropping in UK I had no choice but to return. The headphones have some positives like good soundstage, nice detail in the upper range, mids are OK nothing special. But the main problem is with the boomy bass on some tracks it becomes a big problem by creeping into the Mids. I feel this is the wrong headphone for someone that likes neutral signature. If going by this thread many people feel disappointed. I can tell you that these headphones work great with the current crop of iDevices they seem to tame the boomy bass a little bit. All in all these are for the Dr Dre generation and Denon has shifted it's focus. Can't justify paying £1000 or £600 or £450 on these. The maximum I would spend is around £350 mark and use it with an iPod. Not really Hi-fi in my opinion at best a Mid-fi headphone. Personally I would choose the Sennheiser HD 600 or the Amperior over these anyday. 

 

Not a great headphone don't be fooled into paying retail on this. Not worth it. Unless you like your bass uncontrolled and boomy. 

 

Sorry to hear it didn't work out with these. Unfortunately, the D7100 isn't a very good headphones by most audiophiles' standards. But, I'm glad you were within your return window. Hope you find something else to your liking! 

post #1375 of 1913
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Originally Posted by soberspine View Post

zigy626 for how long you listened 7100?

 

At first indeed the bass is too much and boomy but after several weeks (3 in my case) the bass becomes normal and it still improves.

 

At first I was meh about this hp but with time they become much much better.

I listened to them for about 2 weeks. You are right the bass was too much in the beginning and it did settle down by 2 weeks. But when I compared it with the HE-500 it was still too much and leaking into the Mid's. The Mid's when compared to the HE-500 were a bit recessed but not to much. I think if I did not have the HE-500 to compare the Denon with I would have been satisfied. When I bought it initially looking at the price tag of £1000 I was expecting HD800 performance. But the Denon is far from a neutral Headphone. It lacks in performance when it come to the Mid's and Low's. Wish the Mid's were a bit more forward and Bass a bit more on the neutral side. It is by far one of the best headphones when it comes to portables that you can run straight out of the iDevice that is for sure. Love the treble and soundstage on these things. Just not for me. I am now in the market for a neutral headphone that just let's the Music do its own thing. And presents it as it was meant to be without any coloration. I think the HD800 is in the cards for me in the future so saving up for that. 

post #1376 of 1913
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Originally Posted by zigy626 View Post

I am used to listen to HE-500 and comparing those to the Denon Ah-d7100 I find the bass boomy and creeping into the mids. It's very disappointing that Denon is asking for such a high price for these headphones.

Yes, that's the reason I returned mine.  Not worth $1000, not even $600, no way for $450.

But I will buy one for $350 max. Hope to see the price drop soon ^ ^

post #1377 of 1913
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

Sorry to hear it didn't work out with these. Unfortunately, the D7100 isn't a very good headphones by most audiophiles' standards. But, I'm glad you were within your return window. Hope you find something else to your liking! 

Thanks. Hope they don't charge me a restocking fee. Fingers crossed.

post #1378 of 1913
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Originally Posted by zigy626 View Post

Thanks. Hope they don't charge me a restocking fee. Fingers crossed.

Sorry to hear about the D7100 disappointment, it doesn't seem to be uncommon. IMO, what you're looking for is the Fostex TH600, it's a great amount of bang for your buck.
post #1379 of 1913
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


Sorry to hear about the D7100 disappointment, it doesn't seem to be uncommon. IMO, what you're looking for is the Fostex TH600, it's a great amount of bang for your buck.

Actually I have my eye on the beyerdynamic T1. Would like to get your opinion on that. Thanks.

post #1380 of 1913
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Originally Posted by zigy626 View Post

Actually I have my eye on the beyerdynamic T1. Would like to get your opinion on that. Thanks.

They're fast with nice tight bass, and the mids are fairly neutral, but there's harshness in the highs @8kHz that makes some material unpleasant to listen to. They're a little raw for some people's taste.
Edited by Magick Man - 3/19/13 at 4:35pm
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