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post #841 of 1570

I got the stack ordered also. I hope it comes in a week or two. I ended up adding usb so I can use it with my new Macbook Air. I ordered on Dec. 3, probably a few days before they became backordered. I have a feeling this thread will take off again once the new batch of buyers finally take possession.

post #842 of 1570

Do the air's not have toslink?

post #843 of 1570
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Originally Posted by Stormfriend View Post

 

How do you find the Oppo 105 compared to the Gungnir at other sample rates, particularly 44.1?

I play very few disks anymore.  The only Redbook disk (16/44.1) I have done much listening to is the sampler CD that came with my speakers.  Every CD I've ever owned is now on my NAS (lossless flac) and usually I use one of the Sonos (2 in the house) to play CDs.  When I'm in a HiFi mood It's always 24 bit content and very little of that is 44.1.  Having said that, there is very little difference I can detect (if any) between the NAS->DAC->Amp and Oppo->Amp paths.  The Oppo is an awesome machine and I've only begun to explore it's features.  I'm hoping it will replace my Boxee for playing ad-hoc video content.

 

Frank

post #844 of 1570

the nice thing about an external DAC is that you can do room correction with software if you're using a PC or hardware as in a behringer DEQ 24/96 with the best possible DAC. the oppo has been rated class A by stereophile (if that really even means anything beyond "thanks for advertising with us"), but if you want to do room correction with it, you need to burn CDs, and then burn more if you so much as add acoustic treatment to your room or even move the speakers, if, like me, you still listen to speakers like an old school barbarian. (i do have several headphones and earphones though) that the gungnir has RCA jacks is a big plus to me against the yulong D18. it'd be nice if someone could do a direct comparison between those two as they're very close in price and respectability from everything i've read here so far.

post #845 of 1570
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Do the air's not have toslink?

 

Nope. Only the Pro's have optical. I really wanted a rMBP but don't really need it not a a huge photographer or anything like that. I use optical on my imac and usb on my air I cannot tell a difference. But I do try to use optical if I can, just because from what I have read its supposed to be better, my ears cannot notice a SQ difference though. 

post #846 of 1570
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Nope. Only the Pro's have optical. I really wanted a rMBP but don't really need it not a a huge photographer or anything like that. I use optical on my imac and usb on my air I cannot tell a difference. But I do try to use optical if I can, just because from what I have read its supposed to be better, my ears cannot notice a SQ difference though. 

+1

post #847 of 1570
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Nope. Only the Pro's have optical.

I think you mean all current mac's have optical out except the Air.

post #848 of 1570
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Originally Posted by Erukian View Post

I think you mean all current mac's have optical out except the Air.

 

And the Retina Pros.

 

It seems like Apple is moving away from SPDIF out, at least on notebooks.

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post #850 of 1570

I'm gonna say yes they have optical. http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs-retina/

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Oops! It didn't show up in the first set of specs released by Apple. Guess I should have upgraded, but I want a 13" and quad i7 before changing up.

post #852 of 1570
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http://www.tuaw.com/2012/06/14/attention-world-the-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-does-have-o/

 

Can someone who actually owns one confirm?

Typing on one now.... and listening to Bifrost/Lyr/LCD2... via 96kHz S/PDIF Optical.

15" MBP Retina 2.6GHz Intel Core i7


Edited by Iamnothim - 1/10/13 at 4:51pm
post #853 of 1570
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Typing on one now.... and listening to Bifrost/Lyr/LCD2... via 96kHz S/PDIF Optical.

15" MBP Retina 2.6GHz Intel Core i7

It's just a matter of time before we see the 13" retina. Probably by summer which is when the rMBP came out.

 

Apple seems to have no rhyme or reason when it comes to scheduling mac releases, unlike iPhones and iPads.

post #854 of 1570
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Apple seems to have no rhyme or reason when it comes to scheduling mac releases, unlike iPhones and iPads.

Yea. Like releasing The New Ipad just months before The New New Ipad. tongue.gif

post #855 of 1570
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Originally Posted by Iamnothim View Post

Like other audio component and accessories (that shall not be mentioned in this thread)  discussions, I have a difficult time

believing one digital processor can sound better than another.  Bits is bits.  If you have enough horsepower to drive data over an interface, you are good to go.

 

'Tain't so.  :-)

 

If you've ever been listening to your system when it's lost signal lock, you've heard the actual digital bits, and it's really unpleasant - sounds like a loud burst of static.  All DACs have to filter those bits to make music out of them (it's called "decimation").  The vast majority of DACs, including the Schiit DACs, make the sample rate higher (interpolation) before the decimation step in order to avoid certain forms of distortion.  Both interpolation and decimation are done by means of filters.  Those filters use math known as Fourier transforms.  Fourier transforms cannot optimize frequency and time domain response at the same time.  When you make one better, the other gets worse.  That's just the way the math works.  So the filtering in each and every DAC represents a compromise by the maker of the DAC, or the maker of the DAC chip, between best time response and best frequency response.  The sound you hear, which is the result of that filtering, is based on the designer's judgment (possibly aided by other listeners) as to which compromise provides the best overall sound quality.  So different DACs can and do sound very different based on the different filter designs the DAC makers or DAC chip makers chose.

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