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post #3241 of 3610
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Originally Posted by US Blues View Post
 


You may wish to lay out some snacks on the floor, because once the Gumby puts you down there, you likely won't get up for a while.

I've got the almonds and water ready, bathroom near by! (Hopefully it shows up by Saturday ;))

post #3242 of 3610

I really hope someone answers my question. Did not know where to ask so I put it here because this is about the Gungnir. I'm going to upgrade my DAC from Modi 2 Uber. Maybe even the amp later. I'm torn between the Gungnir Multibit or the Bifrost Multibit. If I upgrade the amp I'm leaning toward the Lyr 2 LISST. So I really don't need balanced but the SQ is my main concern. It will take a little longer to get the Gungnir because it cost more but that is fine for me. Once I do the upgrades then this is it. The headphones I will be using is HE-400i. Just got them. I feel the DAC is important in the line or,most important because it translates the signal. From digital to analog. I want the best bang for my buck. I'm using the Magni 2 Uber for a amp right now. I have been over the specs of the amps on the website and the specs of the Magni to the other amps is pretty good. However, I know that specs do not always relate to sound. But still could not help to compare. So if the difference between the sound SQ between the Gungnir and Bifrost Multibits is my concern. Thank you. One note I have been all around the site here and did not see anything on this. Bifrost Uber yes but not the BM.


Edited by jimdandy - 2/7/16 at 10:14am
post #3243 of 3610


Definitely get the Gumby, even if you have to wait longer.  The price difference is justified. I tried both and find that decision very easy. ...

post #3244 of 3610
Does anyone here have any real life experience with the Gungnir multi-bit vs. the Resonessence Labs Concero HD? I own the Concero HD and am now considering the Gungnir MB. Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
post #3245 of 3610
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Does anyone here have any real life experience with the Gungnir multi-bit vs. the Resonessence Labs Concero HD? I own the Concero HD and am now considering the Gungnir MB. Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
I have no intentions of parting ways however with the Concero HD as it does afford me DSD & DXD play back as well as portability. Just wondering about the gumbys sonic presentation.
post #3246 of 3610
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Definitely get the Gumby, even if you have to wait longer.  The price difference is justified. I tried both and find that decision very easy. ...


Thank you for the reply. I'm really on the fence. Can you tell me if there is a difference between running balanced or unbalanced? Mjolnir 2 maybe too expensive for me to get.

post #3247 of 3610

The issue isn't balanced or unbalanced - It's just that the Gumby is better on retrieving detail.

However the Bimby is a fine machine and is a fantastic bargain if you want to venture in to the realm of R2R Dacs.

post #3248 of 3610
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Originally Posted by joeexp View Post
 

The issue isn't balanced or unbalanced - It's just that the Gumby is better on retrieving detail.

However the Bimby is a fine machine and is a fantastic bargain if you want to venture in to the realm of R2R Dacs.


LOL That is what I'm on the fence about. Schiit Audio puts quality into all the products and I like their ethic that is way I'm staying with them. I guess I don't fully understand R2R Dacs though. So the Bifrost Multibit is R2R and the Gungnir is not. Correct?


Edited by jimdandy - 2/7/16 at 11:33am
post #3249 of 3610

It's easy.  If you can afford a Gungnir Multibit, get it.  If you can't, but you can afford a Bitfrost Multibit, then get that one.

post #3250 of 3610
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Originally Posted by Ableza View Post
 

It's easy.  If you can afford a Gungnir Multibit, get it.  If you can't, but you can afford a Bitfrost Multibit, then get that one.


Yes sir, I'm leaning toward the Gungnir just wanted a comparison of what they sound like so I might be able to save a little money. I have been all over the internet looking for comparisons on sound and I come up with one or the other but never really a comparison. I have read the differences on delta sigma compared to multibit and choose to go the multibit which seems to have more detail to the music. From what I have read. Just curious the sound between these two one from the other. It seems they my be pretty close to SQ. Tonal qualities maybe different.


Edited by jimdandy - 2/7/16 at 12:23pm
post #3251 of 3610
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Originally Posted by jimdandy View Post
 


LOL That is what I'm on the fence about. Schiit Audio puts quality into all the products and I like their ethic that is way I'm staying with them. I guess I don't fully understand R2R Dacs though. So the Bifrost Multibit is R2R and the Gungnir is not. Correct?

 

The Gungnir has an upgrade from DS to R2R.  So you could have either.  The upgrade is, I think, around $500.  So the GMB winds up at about $1,250.  I owned the DS Gungnir and loved it, then I upgraded to the GMB.  It was the best decision I've made regarding my HP hobby.  The SQ is much better with the MB technology.  I haven't heard the BMB but there are very favorable reviews on this site.  One thing to remember, the BMB is SE only while the GMB has balanced capability.

 

Hope this helps,

RCB

 

ps. Just checked the Schiit website, and the BMB is $599.  The GMB is indeed $1,249.  Just for comparison.


Edited by RCBinTN - 2/7/16 at 1:20pm
post #3252 of 3610
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Yes sir, I'm leaning toward the Gungnir just wanted a comparison of what they sound like so I might be able to save a little money. I have been all over the internet looking for comparisons on sound and I come up with one or the other but never really a comparison. I have read the differences on delta sigma compared to multibit and choose to go the multibit which seems to have more detail to the music. From what I have read. Just curious the sound between these two one from the other. It seems they my be pretty close to SQ. Tonal qualities maybe different.


My take after spending lots of hours reading various posts came down to this (for me). The multibit platform was geared by Schiit to focus on the current redbook standard (typical CD's) and pull out as much info as possible and make it sound musical. The three DAC's share this focus. They each do it at different levels, and the levels are in regards to accuracy and details. The common comment you will hear or read about in each units thread is that they are easy and fun to listen to. Although I have not listened to the bimby ( I have the uber) , I did originally get the Gumby. It was such an amazing upgrade to me, that I have since moved on to yggy. I hear schiit in my old favorite CD's (FLAC files now) that I did not know was even there. It's a given that the redbook standard is obsolete in that there are much higher levels of quality of recordings that could be provided to consumers , but the implementation of them is limited. I have a few 24/96 samples myself, but 98% of what I have is redbook. There is allot (amazing amount) of information in that standard that this platform reveals. The revelation for me in moving to the multibit platform was in validating all the previous comments that I had read over the years about DAC's being second only to the headphone (speakers) in the audio chain in regards to impact on sound quality. I never wanted or understood the need to commit that much $$ to a piece of audio equipment that just "converted" digital information into analog. I just never understood this as well as I do now. My suggestion is to get the gumby as it has SE and balanced input/outputs and it will be a good foundation for you moving forward if your goal is to continue to grow and obtain higher quality sound. What ever you end up selecting, it will be a noticable move. (JMHO)

post #3253 of 3610
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Yes sir, I'm leaning toward the Gungnir just wanted a comparison of what they sound like so I might be able to save a little money. I have been all over the internet looking for comparisons on sound and I come up with one or the other but never really a comparison. I have read the differences on delta sigma compared to multibit and choose to go the multibit which seems to have more detail to the music. From what I have read. Just curious the sound between these two one from the other. It seems they my be pretty close to SQ. Tonal qualities maybe different.


Some have said the Gumby and Bimby in SE mode sound similar. I cannot confirm or deny this. but here are a few posts that may help. I searched for his detailed comparison but could not find it. I have the Bimby because at this point there is no plans to going Balanced . From what I read some say that the Bimby and Gumby sound similar In and SE config with the gumby edging out in some details but in balanced mode the Gumby Grew its horns.. er I mean sprouted wings.

 

Atomicbob has/ the Yggy, Bimby and Gumby.  Look through his posts, he has also done some great work taking measurements and posting them. He seems to really enjoy the Bimby.  The last I read Mike Moffat was using the Bimby and Vali 2 for one of his listening stations. (That's a great combo by the way.)

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/785367/bifrost-mb-technical-measurements

http://www.head-fi.org/t/785365/gungnir-mb-technical-measurements

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/785369/yggdrasil-gungnir-mb-bifrost-mb-a-terse-ribald-comparison#post_12015806

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/785369/yggdrasil-gungnir-mb-bifrost-mb-a-terse-ribald-comparison#post_12012998

post #3254 of 3610

Thanks to all of you really helps out. I had looked ALL OVER the net reading everything I could. Including the differences between DS and Multibit or R2R, as it is also called. The details and musical aspect of multibit is the reason why I want to upgrade. Also the reason I went with the headphones I did. Just did not have enough money to spend a grand on headphones then a grand on a dac. So I read all the reviews on here and decided to go with the 400i. As far as a dac I figured I would stick with something I know. I have had my Magni 2 U for almost 3 years using it off  my sound card then got the Modi 2 U. All I have done I have seen improvement. Improvement in detail and channel separation mostly but still improvement.  So when I read that a multibit dac brings even more out I figured I would take my tax refund and save a little and jump to the next level. Always wished for equipment like this when I was young but money seemed to slip through my fingers. Partying takes money when one is young and foolish. I think I will go ahead and get the Gungnir MB. Have to wait a little but it will be worth it. Rather do that than set and wonder what it would have sounded like. The quality of sound I have now is better than I have ever had. With speakers or headphones from the past. The 400i and M&M stack is like a open window compared to a closed window. I can't wait to here the Gungnir MB if it take things to another level. Wow.

post #3255 of 3610
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Originally Posted by jimdandy View Post
 


Yes sir, I'm leaning toward the Gungnir just wanted a comparison of what they sound like so I might be able to save a little money. I have been all over the internet looking for comparisons on sound and I come up with one or the other but never really a comparison. I have read the differences on delta sigma compared to multibit and choose to go the multibit which seems to have more detail to the music. From what I have read. Just curious the sound between these two one from the other. It seems they my be pretty close to SQ. Tonal qualities maybe different.


Some have said the Gumby and Bimby in SE mode sound similar. I cannot confirm or deny this. but here are a few posts that may help. I searched for his detailed comparison but could not find it. I have the Bimby because at this point there is no plans to going Balanced . From what I read some say that the Bimby and Gumby sound similar In and SE config with the gumby edging out in some details but in balanced mode the Gumby Grew its horns.. er I mean sprouted wings.

 

Atomicbob has/ the Yggy, Bimby and Gumby.  Look through his posts, he has also done some great work taking measurements and posting them. He seems to really enjoy the Bimby.  The last I read Mike Moffat was using the Bimby and Vali 2 for one of his listening stations. (That's a great combo by the way.)

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/785367/bifrost-mb-technical-measurements

http://www.head-fi.org/t/785365/gungnir-mb-technical-measurements

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/785369/yggdrasil-gungnir-mb-bifrost-mb-a-terse-ribald-comparison#post_12015806

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/785369/yggdrasil-gungnir-mb-bifrost-mb-a-terse-ribald-comparison#post_12012998


Thanks I will read them. I have searched and read a lot. Just did not come up with these. Hard to find things sometimes. Even have done reading on other forums for information. Once again appreciate it. I will post what I think when I get it on here.


Edited by jimdandy - 2/7/16 at 9:01pm
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