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post #1201 of 1570
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Originally Posted by huberd View Post

I found out that it must be the driver. I switched to Linux and everything works fine. I just don't like using Linux because the lack of a good music player. But this is a solution for now. 

I was going to suggest you try another device/os. Seems you did that already.
post #1202 of 1570
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Originally Posted by huberd View Post

Does anyone know if Schiit will be offering a different USB module other than the C-Media? I seem to be having a lot of trouble with my setup. Have a Gungnir and I am using JRiver with the latest USB drivers in ASIO mode. I am not able to play songs that are sampled at 176000 khz and sometimes 24 bit recordings get down sampled stating there is not enough bits. I am about ready to sell this thing. I have tried using the ASIO4ALL driver with it and it gets choppy. If I down grade the drive to the old version it seems to work better but the sound is not as good. I don't know what to do. If anyone would like to buy it please let me know I will give it to you for $600. Maybe you can make it work properly. 

I'm also using JRiver, now in 19.0.32 version with the latest -1.03 schit usb driver.

No problem playing 24bit 192kHz... using wasapi...

 

no sure any problem with 176kHz... cause I don't have 176kHz file

 

why not try wasapi..

post #1203 of 1570
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I found out that it must be the driver. I switched to Linux and everything works fine. I just don't like using Linux because the lack of a good music player. But this is a solution for now. 
Investigate "jitter"
post #1204 of 1570
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post


Lol, not surprised.. Anyways, consider a external converter, youll get much much better results both in sonics and glitchy issues

 

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Apparently you thought I was joking. Hate to break the bad news, but ya shouldnt have went with the usb implementation. 100.00 for a USB to spdif converter, you should expect those problems. Just sayin..

 

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Its not rocket science bud.

 

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So are you using only a USB cable from your pc straight to the gagnir, oops I meant gungnir.

 

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Investigate "jitter"

 

Dude, seriously, what is it you are trying to imply with your replies here? It seems to me that you're saying that because the USB upgrade board is $100 that it shouldn't work or something? I know there are converters out there that are more expensive than the gungnir itself, but just because it's cheaper does not imply that it won't work, surely? Mine has been working since I got it, if that's anything to go by (and I have a number of hi-res files here, not many, but they cover a whole range of sample rates and bit depths ). Perhaps Schiit should be selling the board for $500 so that it will stand a better chance of working.

 

To the OP, as some may have said, it'd be best to contact Schiit or try Jason. His replies are short but normally to the point. I get the impression that they know what they're talking about when it comes to their USB board so it'd be really weird if they dropped the ball on this one - one of the things the new board is supposed to be able to do over the previous version is 24/176.4

post #1205 of 1570
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Originally Posted by x838nwy View Post

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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

Lol, not surprised.. Anyways, consider a external converter, youll get much much better results both in sonics and glitchy issues
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

Apparently you thought I was joking. Hate to break the bad news, but ya shouldnt have went with the usb implementation. 100.00 for a USB to spdif converter, you should expect those problems. Just sayin..
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

Its not rocket science bud.

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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

So are you using only a USB cable from your pc straight to the gagnir, oops I meant gungnir.
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

Investigate "jitter"

Dude, seriously, what is it you are trying to imply with your replies here? It seems to me that you're saying that because the USB upgrade board is $100 that it shouldn't work or something? I know there are converters out there that are more expensive than the gungnir itself, but just because it's cheaper does not imply that it won't work, surely? Mine has been working since I got it, if that's anything to go by (and I have a number of hi-res files here, not many, but they cover a whole range of sample rates and bit depths ). Perhaps Schiit should be selling the board for $500 so that it will stand a better chance of working.

To the OP, as some may have said, it'd be best to contact Schiit or try Jason. His replies are short but normally to the point. I get the impression that they know what they're talking about when it comes to their USB board so it'd be really weird if they dropped the ball on this one - one of the things the new board is supposed to be able to do over the previous version is 24/176.4
All I'm saying is that there are other options and that I personally believe that going with an external unit is a better choice, no need to get worked up about it.
If yours works fine, great. If not, there are other options.
post #1206 of 1570
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post


All I'm saying is that there are other options and that I personally believe that going with an external unit is a better choice, no need to get worked up about it.
If yours works fine, great. If not, there are other options.

 Didn't appear to me that's "all you're saying" and as for "getting worked up" I wan't the one writing 5 posts saying basically the same thing.

 

Anyhow, what converter are you using? And I'm kindda suspecting that Schiit's one-box "solution" (to a problem that I don't think exist) might well be an external converter...

post #1207 of 1570
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

All I'm saying is that there are other options and that I personally believe that going with an external unit is a better choice, no need to get worked up about it.

If yours works fine, great. If not, there are other options.
 Didn't appear to me that's "all you're saying" and as for "getting worked up" I wan't the one writing 5 posts saying basically the same thing.

Anyhow, what converter are you using? And I'm kindda suspecting that Schiit's one-box "solution" (to a problem that I don't think exist) might well be an external converter...
Right, if yours does not have any problems, I congratulate you. The other person was experience problems and I suggested that an external converter be used, given that he was experiencing similar problems to "cheaper" converters I thought it would be a good opportunity to try other options like audiophilleo, ilink, and many others.
post #1208 of 1570

Hi Dan:

 

Here's x838nwy's question:

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Originally Posted by x838nwy View Post

 Didn't appear to me that's "all you're saying" and as for "getting worked up" I wan't the one writing 5 posts saying basically the same thing.

 

Anyhow, what converter are you using? And I'm kindda suspecting that Schiit's one-box "solution" (to a problem that I don't think exist) might well be an external converter...

Here's your answer:

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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post


Right, if yours does not have any problems, I congratulate you. The other person was experience problems and I suggested that an external converter be used, given that he was experiencing similar problems to "cheaper" converters I thought it would be a good opportunity to try other options like audiophilleo, ilink, and many others.

Anyhow, what converter are you using?

post #1209 of 1570
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Originally Posted by sceleratus View Post

Hi Dan:

Here's x838nwy's question:
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Originally Posted by x838nwy View Post

 Didn't appear to me that's "all you're saying" and as for "getting worked up" I wan't the one writing 5 posts saying basically the same thing.

Anyhow, what converter are you using? And I'm kindda suspecting that Schiit's one-box "solution" (to a problem that I don't think exist) might well be an external converter...
Here's your answer:
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

Right, if yours does not have any problems, I congratulate you. The other person was experience problems and I suggestedthat an external converter be used, given that he was experiencing similar problems to "cheaper" converters I thought it would be a good opportunity to try other options like audiophilleo, ilink, and many others.
Anyhow, what converter are you using?
I am using a particular unit where the usb audio is converted to a spdif
post #1210 of 1570

Some days ago I started to use the my Gungnir and I noticed something weird. The output from single ended pairs are totally different. On one output pair the sound is with much bass and height, like having a loudness function. It should be noted that I tested the dac in two different systems and the result is the same : the sound is different on the two output (SE) pairs. Did somebody notice the same difference ?

post #1211 of 1570
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post


I am using a particular unit where the usb audio is converted to a spdif

 

 

. . . ?


Edited by sceleratus - 9/3/13 at 9:35am
post #1212 of 1570
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Originally Posted by G1Snd View Post
 

 

The Schiit drivers wouldn't work with waspi event style, only the push style; but now they work with both styles. Media players like Foobar let you choose waspi event or push style. Many people prefer the event style. For the reasons behind it just google waspi event vs push. Considering which output type to use, ASIO or Waspi, just use whichever one works the best for you.

 

WASPI Event Style works perfectly now with the new drivers (and I Have the first gen USB board). I used ASIO without issues for the most part, but when the Internet wasn't disabled I would have some playback stutter issues with JRMC. Not now with WASPI.

post #1213 of 1570
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Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post

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Originally Posted by G1Snd View Post

 

The Schiit drivers wouldn't work with waspi event style, only the push style; but now they work with both styles. Media players like Foobar let you choose waspi event or push style. Many people prefer the event style. For the reasons behind it just google waspi event vs push. Considering which output type to use, ASIO or Waspi, just use whichever one works the best for you.

WASPI Event Style works perfectly now with the new drivers (and I Have the first gen USB board). I used ASIO without issues for the most part, but when the Internet wasn't disabled I would have some playback stutter issues with JRMC. Not now with WASPI.
I believe ASIO provides the best sound, could be wrong.
post #1214 of 1570
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post


I believe ASIO provides the best sound, could be wrong.

 

Okay - sinde comments aside, it seems you're using an iLink+iUSB and you've owned an audiophilleo in the past. I have a couple of questions for you and would very much appreciate your thoughts:

 

1.) How much of an improvement did the iUSB add (to the Gungnir) on its own? (I had a chance to try this, but the plan fell through).

2.) How would you rate (iUSB+iLink) vs (AP1/2 + PP)?

 

I've been itching to try the iUSB for a while (as above) but the local dealer does not have an iLink to loan. Your thoughts would be much appreciated.


Edited by x838nwy - 9/3/13 at 8:28pm
post #1215 of 1570
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

I believe ASIO provides the best sound, could be wrong.

Okay - sinde comments aside, it seems you're using an iLink+iUSB and you've owned an audiophilleo in the past. I have a couple of questions for you and would very much appreciate your thoughts:

1.) How much of an improvement did the iUSB add (to the Gungnir) on its own? (I had a chance to try this, but the plan fell through).
2.) How would you rate (iUSB+iLink) vs (AP1/2 + PP)?

I've been itching to try the iUSB for a while (as above) but the local dealer does not have an iLink to loan. Your thoughts would be much appreciated.
I'd be happy to give you my thoughts. I've never owned a gungnir, I did own a Yulong D18 Dac, which actually forced me to go down the converter route since a usb input was non existent nor was it an option. Thinking back now, I actually feel like an idiot! See, I bought that d18 without thinking about how I'd get music from my pc to the dac, thank god a friend on head fi asked me "hey which converter are you going with", otherwise I would have been with the D18 scratching my head.

Anyways, the ap1 or ap2 is a great unit, very well regarded. I've tried a handful of different converters and found the ifi audio ilink>iusb going to my D18 using a special oyaide DR-510 cable to be the best. Ap1/2 with its psu or even the iusb yields a significant upgrade in sq. The ap1/2 renders vocals unbelievably well. The reason I settled with ifi is the way it disappears in the chain, the balance is perfect to my liking, nothing stood out and grabbed my attention. Converters all have a different sound, some love the ap1/2--and they should, it really is a great unit but the ifi combo was much more pleasing to me. Keep in mind though, I would never use a converter without a power supply, the difference is night/day.

If you've been on the fence with a converter, I'd say--go for it, it could possibly turn your gungnir into a killer sounding dac. As for the USB imp in the gungnir vs something like ap+psu, ilink combo, and others--you'll see a significant gain. You'll get a much smoother overall presentation especially with the ifi setup I've got (so smooth and grain free) visceral bass, larger sound stage list goes on..
Edited by DarKen23 - 9/3/13 at 10:01pm
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