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post #3076 of 3526
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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

Other than the HE-6 is tuned to be brighter - in itself, no proof of your claim.  Do you actually have any concrete evidence to propose such blanket statements?

I have owned the LCD2.2s and still own the HE-6. The HE-6 is on another level. It's not even close in my opinion.


Edited by lljayll - 2/7/14 at 12:07am
post #3077 of 3526
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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

Other than the HE-6 is tuned to be brighter - in itself, no proof of your claim.  Do you actually have any concrete evidence to propose such blanket statements?

 

Other than it's my opinion based off of experience, no. If you think the LCD-2 is more capable than the HE-6, that's your opinion.

 

Also heard the HE-6 w/ the Mjolnir. I thought it was very good sounding and detailed, but didn't quite give the HE-6 synergy/power whatever you'd like to call it. Just didn't have the smoothness or bass of some other amplifiers. 

post #3078 of 3526
If you get the HE6, be prepared to spend a bit more on a top quality amp to drive it. Speaker amps work really, really well with them and may cost less than an equally performing dedicated head amp.
post #3079 of 3526
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Originally Posted by Rossliew View Post

If you get the HE6, be prepared to spend a bit more on a top quality amp to drive it. Speaker amps work really, really well with them and may cost less than an equally performing dedicated head amp.
You guys give the impression that the HE6 is like the K1000...
post #3080 of 3526
I have not heard the k1k but the 6 was by far the hardest can to drive which i have ever owned. But when driven properly, they also give a high level of satisfaction to the listener smily_headphones1.gif
post #3081 of 3526
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Originally Posted by Rossliew View Post

I have not heard the k1k but the 6 was by far the hardest can to drive which i have ever owned. But when driven properly, they also give a high level of satisfaction to the listener smily_headphones1.gif

i've not had any experience with hifiman headphones, but was hoping to one of these days. i've owned the k1000 and thought the best amp i had to drive those was the red wine audio signature 30, which is really a speaker amp for high sensitivity speakers. i also had the gs-x, which is a beast of an amp, but felt it didn't drive it nearly as well as the sig30. i wonder how the he6/sig30 pairing would be...


Edited by kugino - 2/9/14 at 1:45am
post #3082 of 3526
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

Yeah, the hifimans really don't pair well with the MJ. Of course, everytime i say that, the person feels compelled to not listen to me or prove me wrong. Both are futile in this scenario as they end up saying "brunk was right" :tongue: 

Is there a reason you don't think they pair well? I really, really liked the sound of the HE-500s with the Mjolnir and was about to pull the trigger on the Gungnir/Mjolnir. I can't really think of another balanced combo available for not tooo expensive except v800/v181. Is there a better DAC for pairing to the MJ for the HE-500s than the gungnir? or was it the mjolnir that made it not work, I'm not doubting, but it sounded really quite nice to my ears, but believe me I'm more than willing for someone to convince me out of spending the money.

post #3083 of 3526
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Originally Posted by Ultramus View Post
 

Is there a reason you don't think they pair well? I really, really liked the sound of the HE-500s with the Mjolnir and was about to pull the trigger on the Gungnir/Mjolnir. I can't really think of another balanced combo available for not tooo expensive except v800/v181. Is there a better DAC for pairing to the MJ for the HE-500s than the gungnir? or was it the mjolnir that made it not work, I'm not doubting, but it sounded really quite nice to my ears, but believe me I'm more than willing for someone to convince me out of spending the money.

The MJ makes the Hifimans too bright IMO. It's good for the LCDs that need that sort of help though. The only Hifiman model i thought that sounded pretty good off it was the HE-5LE. It sounded like a very well-behaved T1, but with a more linear response and a slightly smaller soundstage. I'd recommend a low wattage speaker amp.


Edited by brunk - 2/11/14 at 9:35am
post #3084 of 3526
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post

The MJ makes the Hifimans too bright IMO. It's good for the LCDs that need that sort of help though. The only Hifiman model i thought that sounded pretty good off it was the HE-5LE. It sounded like a very well-behaved T1, but with a more linear response and a slightly smaller soundstage. I'd recommend a low wattage speaker amp.

From what I've read it seems the gungnir may be the brighter of the two? I just ordered an NFB 1.32 that I plan on pairing with the Mjolnir. I originally heard the MJ with iirc a 7.32 and loved it so decided to stick with what was close to what I liked. And if I end up still finding the mjolnir too bright I can return it.
post #3085 of 3526

In terms of the Gungnir being bright... here is a link that olor1n had mentioned in another thread

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/693798/ranking-of-21-dacs-and-dac-configurations-and-why-chocolate-ice-cream-must-die#post_10040449

 

from what I am reading... it seems some of that unhappy brightness was partly due to USB gen 1 (not saying it's the sole cause).

post #3086 of 3526

So after reading this thread I figured I'd add what I've noticed.

 

I've been running the PWDMkII > Mojo > HD-800, all balanced for well over a year now.

 

The Mojo is very impressive but for me what pushed the synergy for this setup into the dizzying heights was dialing in the ac power delivery to the amp.

 

When this happened 4 things occurred.

1. the bass extension went lower by 1-2 octaves

2. leading edge impact became palpable, everywhere.

3. detail went up considerably, everywhere

4. Toe Tapping Time went into overdrive.  And T3 applied to MANY more albums, rather than just the 'best' of them.

 

There were 3 things that I did to dial in the power for both the Mojo and the PWD

1. SR20 fuses

2. went with tweako receptacles

3. made my own power cables.  They cost ≈ $35 in parts.

 

And just recently added the WA-Quantum fuse chips, which is like icing on the cake.

Really tastee icing…

 

Now granted my 800's are no longer 'stock' and I use the bridge in the PWD as it provides much more detail over usb, (and yes using Ethernet as the digital path is still a PIA right now) and I have a dedicated run with its own circuit breaker just for my whopping ≈ 75 watt system.

 

Just my 2¢

 

JJ

post #3087 of 3526
I 'd like to get the mjolnir for my lcd2 with its xlr cable

But If I get this amp, can I still use my he 400 with the stock cable also ? with an adapter ??

I'd like to avoid re cabling with xlr the hifiman

Thanks
Edited by TontonJoK - 3/5/14 at 12:53am
post #3088 of 3526
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Originally Posted by TontonJoK View Post

I 'd like to get the mjolnir for my lcd2 with its xlr cable

But If I get this amp, can I still use my he 400 with the stock cable also ? with an adapter ??

I'd like to avoid re cabling with xlr the hifiman

Thanks

The Mjolnir is balanced output only, you cannot use an adapter.

post #3089 of 3526
I have a single xlr cable from audeze it's ok ?


With an asus essence st as dac is it going to be a good synergy ?

edit : ok I see in the audeze website that the single xlr is balanced rolleyes.gif
Edited by TontonJoK - 3/5/14 at 2:10am
post #3090 of 3526

~~I know it was a long shot but I was hoping the balanced Schiit preamp would work with my balanced electronic crossover. Does someone have a list of amplifiers that will work with balanced Schiit preamp?

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