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post #2926 of 3526
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Originally Posted by Moonhead View Post
 

Chris is was referring to HE6 with Mjolnir/Gungnir, i have no idea how it would be with HD800, 

but i love to try it some day, but then again I'm just afraid it would be way too bright just like with the HE6!! 

 

Im defiently leaning towards some Audeze, that is the only headphone i have heard of that should be awesome with the Schiit Stack. 

 

They both kinda go bright when paired with either an amp with not enough current, or a DAC which sounds a little cold/bright. 

 

Gungnir is a little bright as a DAC, which is odd considering I didn't think DAC's imparted anything tonal, but yeah I don't mind it and I sorta welcome it. I love mah trebs!

 

Audeze is really good, Hifiman HE-500 is becoming super popular these days since it's like near half the price and they were reviewed side by side with each other at debut.

post #2927 of 3526

Thanks for your insight Chis :normal_smile :

 

Well I'm a little greedy and want the best, well some of the top tier, because I'm not going STAX mental :bigsmile_face:

 

So now my arrow is pointing at Audeze LCD3, LCD X or HD800.

post #2928 of 3526
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Originally Posted by Moonhead View Post
 

Thanks for your insight Chis :normal_smile :

 

Well I'm a little greedy and want the best, well some of the top tier, because I'm not going STAX mental :bigsmile_face:

 

So now my arrow is pointing at Audeze LCD3, LCD X or HD800.

 

You're playing with fire there bud... 

 

LCD-3 is LCD-2 with like 10% more energy and more clear and concise midrange. Some people feel it's worth it. I don't argue with those people. LCD-X I haven't heard and quite honestly I just can't afford to buy it right now. The LCD series is a very engaging, lush, full bodied sound. It is not exactly what most experienced audiophiles would consider a classic reference sound. It basically is a cozy signature, with near infinite power handling, it like won't clip up until brain blasting volumes. It can be driven by anything from a portable source/amp, and enjoys lots of current. You'll be happy to know that IMO, they don't scale as high just because they are satisfied much earlier than dynamic driver headphones when it comes to power and don't necessarily transmit a lot of the ugliness of noisier dac/amps. That could be interpreted as not scaling as well as other stuff, but it really depends what your expectations of expensive amps really are.

 

HD800 is sort of the purists' choice. Thats kind of why it has a somewhat cult following of exclusively HD800 listeners on other forums. That combined with it's lightweight construction compared to orthos, purity of treble (at the expense of potentially of being too bright). Downsides are that if you run a really noisy tube amp, it will tell you, if you run a bright DAC/amp, it'll tell you even faster, and some people consider that high-end audiophile signature a little either thin or too flat which can equate to boring. It's an evolution of the K702 signature, if you've heard it before. Everything is more clear, and has more attack. It's that sharpness combined with the treble extension that kind of has that propensity to go bright on you with certain music/gear. I wrote more just because the HD800 isn't represented as well. Theres just a small handful of bros here who could honestly give you an accurate rundown of what they sound like, and actually own them. (lots of "signature audiophiles" here)

 

I can't pick between the two of them. The snob in me likes the 800's, the lazy guy who just likes to wear headphones and not analyze my music as it's playing enjoys the signature of LCD-2 considerably more. If you honestly have the guapo, do both and eliminate the weaker of the two.

 

TWO WILL ENTER, ONE SHALL LEAVE

post #2929 of 3526

I get wanting to have a pure audio experience and I get that the HD-800 gives you that.

 

I didn't wan't my headphones to be so detailed that they ruin the fun of listening to music because all you hear is sibilance from poor EQ during mastering. I also didn't want to have the cans be so accurate and hyper-sensitive to details that I have to literally eliminate a whole list of amps and dacs that don't have "synergy" with my headphones because I need gear to be less revealing in specific ways to mask the bad recordings.

 

That's why I picked the LCD-2

 

Just my 2c.

post #2930 of 3526
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Originally Posted by Erukian View Post
 

I get wanting to have a pure audio experience and I get that the HD-800 gives you that.

 

I didn't wan't my headphones to be so detailed that they ruin the fun of listening to music because all you hear is sibilance from poor EQ during mastering. I also didn't want to have the cans be so accurate and hyper-sensitive to details that I have to literally eliminate a whole list of amps and dacs that don't have "synergy" with my headphones because I need gear to be less revealing in specific ways to mask the bad recordings.

 

That's why I picked the LCD-2

 

Just my 2c.

Honestly, the HD-800s at a certain point will ruin alot of your favorite music for you because it's so brutally revealing. I keep the HE-6 as my 'daily driver' and the HD-800 for classical and some exceptionally recorded albums.

post #2931 of 3526
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Originally Posted by Chris_Himself View Post
 

 

You're playing with fire there bud... 

 

LCD-3 is LCD-2 with like 10% more energy and more clear and concise midrange. Some people feel it's worth it. I don't argue with those people. LCD-X I haven't heard and quite honestly I just can't afford to buy it right now. The LCD series is a very engaging, lush, full bodied sound. It is not exactly what most experienced audiophiles would consider a classic reference sound. It basically is a cozy signature, with near infinite power handling, it like won't clip up until brain blasting volumes. It can be driven by anything from a portable source/amp, and enjoys lots of current. You'll be happy to know that IMO, they don't scale as high just because they are satisfied much earlier than dynamic driver headphones when it comes to power and don't necessarily transmit a lot of the ugliness of noisier dac/amps. That could be interpreted as not scaling as well as other stuff, but it really depends what your expectations of expensive amps really are.

 

HD800 is sort of the purists' choice. Thats kind of why it has a somewhat cult following of exclusively HD800 listeners on other forums. That combined with it's lightweight construction compared to orthos, purity of treble (at the expense of potentially of being too bright). Downsides are that if you run a really noisy tube amp, it will tell you, if you run a bright DAC/amp, it'll tell you even faster, and some people consider that high-end audiophile signature a little either thin or too flat which can equate to boring. It's an evolution of the K702 signature, if you've heard it before. Everything is more clear, and has more attack. It's that sharpness combined with the treble extension that kind of has that propensity to go bright on you with certain music/gear. I wrote more just because the HD800 isn't represented as well. Theres just a small handful of bros here who could honestly give you an accurate rundown of what they sound like, and actually own them. (lots of "signature audiophiles" here)

 

I can't pick between the two of them. The snob in me likes the 800's, the lazy guy who just likes to wear headphones and not analyze my music as it's playing enjoys the signature of LCD-2 considerably more. If you honestly have the guapo, do both and eliminate the weaker of the two.

 

TWO WILL ENTER, ONE SHALL LEAVE

Well I love almost everything about HE6, but i think it can sound a little bright in the top, 

and I'm fed up seeking after one dedicated speaker amp just for them. 

I Crave neutral headphone more than the dark ones, thats why I would like to try out 

some HD800 and maybe get a Conductor for it.

Burson conductor should be a great partner with both HD800 & LCD3, best of both worlds!! 

But what do i know I'm just one crazy newbie who loves good headphones :tongue_smile: 

post #2932 of 3526
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Originally Posted by Moonhead View Post
 

Well I love almost everything about HE6, but i think it can sound a little bright in the top, 

and I'm fed up seeking after one dedicated speaker amp just for them. 

I Crave neutral headphone more than the dark ones, thats why I would like to try out 

some HD800 and maybe get a Conductor for it.

Burson conductor should be a great partner with both HD800 & LCD3, best of both worlds!! 

But what do i know I'm just one crazy newbie who loves good headphones :tongue_smile: 


Chris is right:  Do an in-home comparison test.  If you are in the US, The Cable Company will loan you the LCDs, HD800s, Burson Conductor and lots of other stuff for the cost of shipping plus 5% that goes toward whatever you buy from them.  You get 2 weeks or so to try whatever you want to try in the comfort of your own home.  There are also lots of excellent manufacturers and retailers who will give you a free trial period, usually 30 days.  Add their stuff to the stuff you get from The Cable Co and spend a few weeks hanging out listening.  Pick the stuff you like the best and send the rest back (well, actually you send all of the Cable Co stuff back and order new stuff from them).  That way you get what you want, not what we like.  Neutral to you isn't neutral to me.  Dark to me isn't dark to you.  Or Chris.  Or Brunk.  Or anybody else on these boards.  The folks around here are awesome, and can suggest stuff that you might want to try, but the important thing is that you get what you want, no matter what we think.

 

And now I'll get off of my well-worn soapbox.

 

(And once again, for the record, I don't work for The Cable Co or any other audio business... I just love the fact that they offer their library and I want it to be successful, since I intend to use it often over the next couple of decades).

post #2933 of 3526
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

Honestly, the HD-800s at a certain point will ruin alot of your favorite music for you because it's so brutally revealing. I keep the HE-6 as my 'daily driver' and the HD-800 for classical and some exceptionally recorded albums.


I like my hd-800's with jazz as well. Granted, some jazz, like that featuring electric guitars, can sound too bright with the 800's. With acoustic instruments it sounds fine.

post #2934 of 3526

I Live in Demark so i guees I'm out of luck, we don't have a headphone library and very few retailers 

and last i tried the were not interested in giving a free trial period. 

So whatever i choose to buy I have to it blindfolded!! 

post #2935 of 3526
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Originally Posted by Moonhead View Post
 

I Received the Mjolnir/Gungnir combo 1 week ago and I'm pretty disappointed with synergy of my Hifiman HE6. 

Way to bright for may taste and a big loss in soundstage compared to my early Cayin class A amp. 

 

Any one who was disappointed with Mjolnir + HE6 combo ?

& maybe heard them with HD800 ? 

 

Im leading towards getting the HD800, but afraid that i would be as bright or even worst than the HE6.

Would be nice with some feedback from some good people that listen to both headphones. 

 

Maybe i will ***** out and get Audeze LCD X/LCD 3 !!

HE-6 isn't an ideal pairing with Mojo. You're better of staying with speaker amps for an ideal fit.

 

With that said, any other ortho's pair very nicely with the Schiit stack, the Audez'es more so than the Hifiman's.

 

If you found the HE-6's too bright with the Schiit then you'll want to pass on the HD800. That is, unless you're willing to change up the DAC, if not,

I'd highly recommend the LCD-3, end your journey and save your wallet. 

post #2936 of 3526

I feel like starting from scratch again and sell both HE6 & maybe Mjolnir/Gungnir.

 

To get Burson Conductor is should be great with both HD800 & LCD3 

post #2937 of 3526
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post
 

I'd highly recommend the LCD-3, end your journey and save your wallet. 

+1  Mojo & PWD MKII & LCD3 are a match made in audio heaven. I don't know but I've heard the Grungy does it good too.

post #2938 of 3526
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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post
 

+1  Mojo & PWD MKII & LCD3 are a match made in audio heaven. I don't know but I've heard the Grungy does it good too.

No argument there. I really liked the PWD (except the bridge! That damn eLyric garbage.) And the Gun's edge is a very nice pairing as well.

post #2939 of 3526
I had to abandon Elyric too, in favor of MinimServer controlled by Linn Kinsky. Easer to use, and sounds good
post #2940 of 3526

Just sold my beloved Woo Audio WA22 for the Schiit Mjolnir/Gungnir.

 

Curious to hear how this setup sounds with my HD800's. Wondering if my W4S DAC1 will ultimately be replaced by the Gungnir

 

 

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