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post #2851 of 3273
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

So on a whim I brought in the Gungnir and Mjolnir stack to see if I could free up some desk space without too much drop and... interesting results.

 

First things first.  This was not a fair fight.  $1600 v $7000 MSRP but this is Head-Fi so what the hell.  Secondly the Schiit stack is awesome given it's price tag and maybe more importantly really synergize with each other, cancelling out each other's potential faults.

 

So if we assume the GS-X mk2 and PWD2 are neutral, humour me :P  Then the Mjolnir is tilted up tonally and the Gungnir is tilted down.  Ie the PWD2 and Mjolnir is a little too forward  and illuminated and the Gungnir paired with the GS-X mk2 a little too laid back and dark.

 

But the Gungnir and Mjolnir really mesh well.  Since both "stacks" played best as a unit what do I think you give up for opting to keep several thousands in the bank?  Resolution and speed.  The GS-X mk2/PWD2 combo does a better job of digging deep into the recording and almost slowing things down during busy passages where the Mjolnir/Gungnir combo is turning towards hard times.  But it's the last 10% type difference, not a lopsided blowout.

 

So I can honestly now say my previous experience with the Mjolnir was in a large part the fault of the W4S DAC-2.  But partnered with a warm dac it really is something else.  Great dynamic swing and sense of air.

 

The Gungnir was also incredible and could bring life to a lot of the amps in the sub $1000 range that are often dried out and lacking down low.  I would however avoid pairing it to overly warm sources or you could fall into dark territory.  Headphone choice obviously plays a part here.

 

Should add.  Kudos to Schiit for having the balls to crank class A bias to reasonable levels.  Loves me some hot Schiit.  The Mjolnir gets quite hot.  Even the Gungnir is warm to the touch.  Love it!

 

Always drove me nuts that Burson had a massive heatsink for a case and set the bias to levels that barely warm the case sigh.

 

Interesting observations.  I love the Mjolnir/Gungnir, but feel like it still swings a bit bright. I was toying with the idea of an eventual GS-X Mk2 upgrade, but keeping the Gungnir, but it sounds like you think that pairing is too dark. The biggest reason for me upgrading would be getting a more neutral amp that plays well with lots of headphones.

post #2852 of 3273

GS-X mk2 is awesome and plays well with just about anything.  It's the reason I'm holding on to it even though it is serious overkill for ciems ;)

 

If you find the MG stack too bright then the Gung/GS-X  would be right up your alley.  You'd likely find the PWD2/GS-X too bright as well since tonally and attack wise they were similar.

post #2853 of 3273
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

GS-X mk2 is awesome and plays well with just about anything.  It's the reason I'm holding on to it even though it is serious overkill for ciems ;)

 

If you find the MG stack too bright then the Gung/GS-X  would be right up your alley.  You'd likely find the PWD2/GS-X too bright as well since tonally and attack wise they were similar.

 

Not to me..  

 

I think the PWD2 gives that thump / attack and low level detail retrieval a little better than the Gung.   IMO the PWD2 / GS-X mk2 combo is a tab bit warm and makes the HD800s sound pretty good.  That same combo with the LCD-3s can be a tad bit dark to me at least.  

 

I still prefer the MJ with the LCDs over the GS-X mk2.  The MJ / PWD mk2 combo was the best I've heard the LCD-2.2s and the LCD-3s.

 

I never heard the Gung paird with the GS-X mk2 though.

post #2854 of 3273

Ordered my Mjolnir yesterday, hoping to pick up the Gungnir by the end of the year, until then I will be running it off of the Uber-Bifrost. I am hoping for good results.

post #2855 of 3273
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Originally Posted by Barry S View Post
 

Shoot, I'd love to swap my Mjolnir for an Asgard 2 and pocket the extra cash, but it would have to be pretty damn close in performance.  I'd be surprised if it was at the same level, but I'll just have to hear it.  The Mjolnir is amazing with the LCD2s, but I find the Magni almost unlistenable in comparison. It seems like the Asgard 2 would be somewhere between the two, since the Asgard 1 was considered so close to the Magni.

 

Now the Asgard 2 has been out, has anyone been able to do a long comparison between the two?

 

I've been looking but haven't been able to find anything aside from a sentence or two. 

post #2856 of 3273
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

IMO the PWD2 / GS-X mk2 combo is a tab bit warm and makes the HD800s sound pretty good.  That same combo with the LCD-3s can be a tad bit dark to me at least.  

 

I think the pairing of PWD2/GS-X mk2/LCD-3 is great and for me straddles the line of illuminated/dark but the Gungnir was clearly darker than the PWD2.  Huge attack but shifted down tonally.  Since he, not me, finds the MG stack overly bright the GS-X mk2 works for him.

 

Comes down to cans.  You like illuminated cans, HE-6 still topping your list I believe so it's not surprising that you would prefer something more illuminated.  Even for me there are days that the LCD-3 is too sharp even dry but for the rest of the year it rides the line.

post #2857 of 3273
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

GS-X mk2 is awesome and plays well with just about anything.  It's the reason I'm holding on to it even though it is serious overkill for ciems wink.gif

If one can wait that long.
post #2858 of 3273

Just be glad you only need to put down 25% now.  Used to have to foot the whole $2500+ up front.

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I did not like the gungnir. I feel that with the gungnir/mjolnir stack-the gungnir fell too far off for an amp like mjolnir.
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Just be glad you only need to put down 25% now.  Used to have to foot the whole $2500+ up front.
Ouch..
post #2861 of 3273
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

I did not like the gungnir. I feel that with the gungnir/mjolnir stack-the gungnir fell too far off for an amp like mjolnir.


Just out of curiosity, too far off in what sense? Could you elaborate? (cause my super long term goal is and HD800)

post #2862 of 3273
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

I did not like the gungnir. I feel that with the gungnir/mjolnir stack-the gungnir fell too far off for an amp like mjolnir.

 

Same, it was a tad bit bright. I liked the HRT MSII+ with Mjolnir.

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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

I did not like the gungnir. I feel that with the gungnir/mjolnir stack-the gungnir fell too far off for an amp like mjolnir.


Just out of curiosity, too far off in what sense? Could you elaborate? (cause my super long term goal is and HD800)

It was like having apples and coffee..

 

Actually what I meant was, I felt that the mjolnir was a spectacular amp--it bought ridiculously good sound to the LCD line up, so good that I still believe the mjolnir is hands-down THE best amplifier for the LCD. The gungnir just felt unworthy..


Edited by DarKen23 - 10/14/13 at 10:32pm
post #2864 of 3273
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Originally Posted by Stormfriend View Post
 

At 230v - 240v the hum is similarly bad, and it's still bad below 230v, but by the time I hit 222v - 220v it is significantly diminished. 

 

I've left the Mojo on continuously since that post with the P3 set to 220v and it's been completely inaudible from a few feet away, exactly as it should be.  I'm now convinced voltage is the problem, so I'll drop an email to Schiit and see what they say.

post #2865 of 3273
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post
 

Gungir > Teac DAC. And it's not close.

 I am not that familiar with the gungir only hearing it briefly with the mjoyner amp at a head fi meet this spring. But I do not believe the gungir will do dsd at all. The teac will so I would not agree that it is not even close. I am sure the teac will sound better than the gungir since it does play dsd and double dsd files while the gungir will not play dsd files at all.


Edited by buson160man - 10/17/13 at 7:15am
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