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post #2761 of 3149
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Originally Posted by Hedonism View Post

The main options are going to be Schiit's own Gungnir, or the Concero HD. I initially wanted the Matrix X-Sabre, though I think it's a little too pricey.

 

Can someone tell me the advantages of having a fully balanced system vs. a unbalanced DAC with the Mjolnir? 

 

It's all relative, but the differences to me were significant in terms of resolution. I tried three balanced DACs, both SE and balanced into the MJ. Of course that may depend on the rest of the chain. YMMV.

 

As for the Gungnir, I prefer it a bit more to the X-Sabre. Smoother overall balance, slightly less micro-detail, more tuneful bass, and much more dynamic (although I've noted that some folks have felt the Gungnir was overly dynamic. I'm not sure there's such a thing as overly dynamic with recorded music.)

 

The Concero is a decent DAC, but nothing special.


Edited by purrin - 8/19/13 at 11:12am
post #2762 of 3149
So, I'm starting to get my head wrapped around the Mjolnir, and I'm curious what faults you other owners, past or present find with it. If you don't mind sharing.

I've only used Senn 600 so far…
post #2763 of 3149

I use it with the HD 650. No complaints... zero. Although the amp I upgraded from was the E09K/E17 combo... so that's an unfair comparison.
 

post #2764 of 3149

I'm using a mjolnir with an MSB power dac (balanced outs) to drive AKG K340s (Larry Dale re-cable) and he500s....really happy with what I'm hearing.

 

Cheers!

 

Gus
 

post #2765 of 3149

No complaints with my Mjo at all. Always performs flawlessly with the LCD3.

post #2766 of 3149
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Originally Posted by Gustav Mahler View Post

I'm using a mjolnir with an MSB power dac (balanced outs) to drive AKG K340s (Larry Dale re-cable) and he500s....really happy with what I'm hearing.

 

Cheers!

 

Gus
 

 

I'm sure that K340 is amazing. I'm definitely trying to get a pair to mod, and I think running them balanced (and with a lot more power) would really boost them into a higher level. When I had them I had a SE amp, that really struggled with them. What beasts!

post #2767 of 3149
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

I'm sure that K340 is amazing. I'm definitely trying to get a pair to mod, and I think running them balanced (and with a lot more power) would really boost them into a higher level. When I had them I had a SE amp, that really struggled with them. What beasts!


Bought mine about 30 years ago....hadn't used them in years....the mj brought them back to life.

 

Cheers!

 

Gus

post #2768 of 3149

Not sure if it is necessarily a faulty but if I could change anything about the MJ I would increase

the left and right soundstages. 

 

That's being really particular about it though

post #2769 of 3149
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Originally Posted by mwindham08 View Post

Not sure if it is necessarily a faulty but if I could change anything about the MJ I would increase

the left and right soundstages. 

 

That's being really particular about it though

 

With some DACs, people have had better luck with changing the soundstage depth by trying different inputs, usb vs coax etc. Just saying.

 

If soundstage is really important to you, nothing does it like a good pair of speakers.

post #2770 of 3149

I ended up with the Taboo MK III which surpising has a similar sound signature as the MJ 

but also has an expansive soundstage.

 

But I agree speakers will always be better at soundstaging

post #2771 of 3149

You feel your LCD's are limiting the width?  Or maybe it doesn't even matter anymore?

 

For me, going to headphones from speakers, I had to pretty much stop caring about an expansive soundstage, even with Senn 800s.  Just no where near the same.

post #2772 of 3149
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Originally Posted by Eee Pee View Post

So, I'm starting to get my head wrapped around the Mjolnir, and I'm curious what faults you other owners, past or present find with it. If you don't mind sharing.

I've only used Senn 600 so far…

 

  • Need to keep on or turn on way ahead of time for it sound less "raw" in treble.
  • Would like better soundstage depth. Like how DHTs do it. Width is fine.
  • Slightest hint of a low-level veil. Most people won't notice this or believe me unless they've heard amps with better clarity, which is rare. In other words, don't worry about it.
  • Balance / SE toggle isn't a true input switcher, it ties one end to ground for SE operation.
  • To be fair, in comparison to other amps up to $2k or more, the Mjolnir has less faults. In other words, I'm just nitpicking. It's one of few solid-state amps I would actually own and do own.

Edited by purrin - 8/24/13 at 1:06pm
post #2773 of 3149
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Originally Posted by Eee Pee View Post

You feel your LCD's are limiting the width?  Or maybe it doesn't even matter anymore?

 

For me, going to headphones from speakers, I had to pretty much stop caring about an expansive soundstage, even with Senn 800s.  Just no where near the same.

I'm not insinuating the Taboo+LCD's compare to a speaker setup but there was definitely a better soundstage with the Taboo compared to the MJ.

 

I ended up spending  most of the time listening to the Taboo over the MJ and just couldn't justify keeping them both,

so I kept the one that one.

Having said that I would have been satisfied with either amp. 

 

As to whether or not the LCD's are the limiting factor, most likely.

They definitely have a smaller soundstage compared to the Beyer T1's I used to own.

 

But of course I'm not too worried about because your right, headphones are only going

to get you so far when it comes to soundstaging.

post #2774 of 3149

Would you guys recommend the HD650 with the Mojo/Gung? i know people love orthos with this combo, so I don't have to worry about my Paradox, but the HD650 has my attention..

post #2775 of 3149

Yes.

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