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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

FYI:  I know all I need to know about EE and what I don't know I have 2 very well knowledge builders that I consult with.  I don't need to ask Solude anything. I asked you - sense you know all about EE.

 

I'm well aware about the pros and cons of a balanced config.  For me and I guess for all the MJ adopters as well.  The pros out weigh the cons.  So go figure.

 

Why would I search for statements you bought up.  If I bought said statements up. I may have something to support it if wasn't in my own opinion.  blink.gif

 

As you can see in this thread alone not many people do agree on most things.  So, all we have is our opinions and our ba _ _ _.  A I won't break them for no bodybiggrin.gif

 

Yes you have 2 builders. That doesn't pertain to you asking me a question or us having a discussion on balanced operations.

 

What's so ideal about a 2 channel unbalanced build?  That's why there's options, and that's why it's DIY, your able to get it the way you want it.  

 

You don't know your EE so I replied it's not worth discussing. 

 

 

And we're just going to going to go in circles. 

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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

 

Yes you have 2 builders. That doesn't pertain to you asking me a question or us having a discussion on balanced operations.

 

What's so ideal about a 2 channel unbalanced build?  That's why there's options, and that's why it's DIY, your able to get it the way you want it.  

 

You don't know your EE so I replied it's not worth discussing. 

 

 

And we're just going to going to go in circles. 

 

 

I guess you don't either then.biggrin.gif

post #2268 of 3273

Meant comparing Mjolnir to a balanced B22.

 

Mjolnir gain is 8x balanced.  Is your B22 8x per board or combined?  Be an odd number combined since the usual suspects are 2,5,8,11.

 

When I say inherently noisy its not an insult, its just something you have to be mindful of in a build.  For example, using a non potted transformer and having it rubbing up to the B22 boards will result in the B22 picking up the noise.  Put an older cell phone near the B22... expect to hear cell data.  Its inherently noisy, that's not the same as poor performer.  Why would I be building my 3rd if it wasn't world class?

 

That said you shouldn't be name dropping without their permission but would counter that Corey is who I work with on builds ;)  And our current build won't choke... ever or double as an antenna and is also setup to be a world class pre-amp with the output being defeatable.  Very excited :D

 

Could have sworn this was a Mjolnir thread though :P

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Looks like you did more name dropping than I did blink.gif

 

Also I have separate enclosures - no transformers rubbing up to the B22 boards here.  So, nope, not a problem I have.  I thought you would know that of a 4 channel build.  

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Prep don't assume that when someone says B22, your build is what's being discussed.  There is more than 1 out in the wild and none of them are the same.  

 

I think everyone knows SWA and YBM know how to build a proper B22.  No one, certainly not me, ever said either of them let anything less that works of art out the door.  But very few people who can solder, have their work quality or knowledge let alone test equipment or experience to pick up what the scope doesn't.  They won't let you make dumb choices.

 

Problem is, they are not the norm.

post #2271 of 3273

So very True.....

 

 

 

1000

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

I've tried to live with the HD800 at home a few times now, years apart and always walk away feeling other than better soundstage depth and height as well as comfort, that the Audeze line out classes it everywhere else.  Lots of detail and texture that comes through on the LCD-2 and more so on the LCD-3 is simply MIA on the HD800.  But yes tubes, more correctly high output impedance is favoured on the HD800 since it boosts the bass to counter the treble.

As for the Mjolnir, I felt it was very energetic to a fault and despite using a dark source the result was bright or at the very least fatiguing.  I'd love to try again now that I have a more balanced source but I'm more likely to try the Statement next.
I get a lot more detail from HD800s than I did trying the LCDs. I also don't think the treble needs any countering. HD800 bass is full and deep, some of the most realistic deep bass I've heard short of a subwoofer in a well tuned room.
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I'm with Maxvla here. Makes me wonder if he and I somehow struck gold and have scored magical pairs of HD800s. What I hear from mine is counter to how these headphones are described on this forum. I have no need to tame peaky treble on mine, nor could I ask more of the bass rendition.

Solude's comment about the LCD-2 is also bewildering. Maybe he also struck gold and landed a pair with LCD-3 drivers installed. More detailed than the HD800? That's a good one.
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And you are not alone.  

 

Just goes to show how different people tune into different octaves more easily than others.  In the previous generation, my favourite was the O2 MkI, the real O2 not the buffer err amp the kids use now a days ;)

 

The Audeze boys have been good to me.  My original Rev1 kicked my O2 MkI to the curb :D

 

Should add I never felt the HD800 was bright or fatiguing.  One big difference between the two is the HD800 sounded a lot quieter than it was and vice versa.  When 'ear' dB matched the HD800 was pretty consistently a good 6dB louder.

 

I wish the HD800 did it for me, its more comfy, stages better and costs half the price.  Just not meant to be.  That said, I have a new source so... round 3 is probably right around the corner when my amp comes in ;)


Edited by Solude - 12/29/12 at 7:46pm
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Lol. Bloody hell Solude. The HD800 is not for you. Just walk away dude.
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LCD beating O2 MK1. Now I've seen it all wink.gif
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Surprised me too.  I had that O2/KGSS combo a good 4 years no complaints.  Brought in an LCD-2 Rev1 and Rockhopper B22 for kicks and after driving my wife nuts for months riding the fence on which to keep... I sold the O2/KGSS :O  The joke being top tier stat gear is in the end free.  I got as much four years later as what I paid for it new.  Dynamics... not so much ;)

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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

 

Yes you have 2 builders. That doesn't pertain to you asking me a question or us having a discussion on balanced operations.

 

What's so ideal about a 2 channel unbalanced build?  That's why there's options, and that's why it's DIY, your able to get it the way you want it.  

 

You don't know your EE so I replied it's not worth discussing. 

 

 

And we're just going to going to go in circles. 

paradoxper, when listening to your lcd3 and mjolnir do you prefer using gungnir as source or the pwd?

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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post

paradoxper, when listening to your lcd3 and mjolnir do you prefer using gungnir as source or the pwd?

As it stands at the moment. Gungnir. Why? Because my ears have not adjusted to the PWD latest firmware which is

rough on me. The PWD is a new addition and has not had time to settle down with burn-in either.

 

However the Gungnir can't compete with the PWD.

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PWD2 isn't it?

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